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Requested move 10 February 2021
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Pawnkingthree, How are we going against
MOS:CAPS? MOS:CAPS clearly says In English, capitalization is primarily needed for proper names, acronyms, and for the first letter of a sentence. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia, which means the following: A, Mountain View Fire is a proper noun, and B, the media and other sources always capitalize the F in "Fire" 🔥
LightningComplexFire🔥15:29, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
It is not a proper noun. It is a fire that was given the name Mountain View. Therefore, it's the
Mountain View fire. It doesn't matter what capitalization the media use, we have our own style guide which says not to capitalize in such cases.--
P-K3 (
talk)
15:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Pawnkingthree, Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia🔥
LightningComplexFire🔥17:20, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Pawnkingthree, Sorry I'm late, but what I was saying is that you said "It doesn't matter what capitalization the media use, we have our own style guide which says not to capitalize in such cases", but
MOS:CAPS clearly said "Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia", so we aren't violating Manual of Style. 🔥
LightningComplexFire🔥20:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I also note the article was named correctly to begin with, and was moved to the incorrect lower-case name without discussion or consensus; see
history. In good-faith, to be sure, but nonetheless in error.
TJRC (
talk)
21:14, 21 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment (only, or "neutral") - I moved the page because I was under the impression that this was a fire that occurred in
Mountain View, California, rather than an event referred to as the "Mountain View Fire". Reliable sources don't seem to be consistent on capitalizing "Fire", so I'm not sure, but please don't interpret my move as authoritative.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits)
00:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 10 February 2021
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Pawnkingthree, How are we going against
MOS:CAPS? MOS:CAPS clearly says In English, capitalization is primarily needed for proper names, acronyms, and for the first letter of a sentence. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia, which means the following: A, Mountain View Fire is a proper noun, and B, the media and other sources always capitalize the F in "Fire" 🔥
LightningComplexFire🔥15:29, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
It is not a proper noun. It is a fire that was given the name Mountain View. Therefore, it's the
Mountain View fire. It doesn't matter what capitalization the media use, we have our own style guide which says not to capitalize in such cases.--
P-K3 (
talk)
15:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Pawnkingthree, Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia🔥
LightningComplexFire🔥17:20, 12 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Pawnkingthree, Sorry I'm late, but what I was saying is that you said "It doesn't matter what capitalization the media use, we have our own style guide which says not to capitalize in such cases", but
MOS:CAPS clearly said "Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is conventionally capitalized; only words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia", so we aren't violating Manual of Style. 🔥
LightningComplexFire🔥20:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I also note the article was named correctly to begin with, and was moved to the incorrect lower-case name without discussion or consensus; see
history. In good-faith, to be sure, but nonetheless in error.
TJRC (
talk)
21:14, 21 February 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment (only, or "neutral") - I moved the page because I was under the impression that this was a fire that occurred in
Mountain View, California, rather than an event referred to as the "Mountain View Fire". Reliable sources don't seem to be consistent on capitalizing "Fire", so I'm not sure, but please don't interpret my move as authoritative.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits)
00:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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