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Note the indexing of the categories: Auckland Volcanic Field - indexed under W for "Wellington, Mt." (the volcano); Auckland- indexed under M for "Mount Wellington" (the suburb). Same applies with Mount Eden (and will soon apply with Mts Roskill and Albert). [[User:Grutness|
Grutness
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- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) — innotata 23:18, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Mount Wellington, New Zealand → Maungarei / Mount Wellington – New name for cone. [1] [2] Haminoon ( talk) 04:43, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Act 2014". Retrieved 11 October 2014.
- ^ "Volcanic cones regain Maori names". Retrieved 11 October 2014.
Survey
- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''or*'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
- Oppose
MOS:SLASH we should avoid slashes whenever possible.
WP:SUBPAGE this makes the appearance of a subpage, and messes up the associated talk pages, which will assume it is a subpage. Further, per internet wide usage, this is assumed to be a subpage in URL formulations. We can replace it with a DASH, like how other jurisdictions use an mdash.
WP:OFFICIALNAMES we don't just use official names because they are official --
67.70.35.44 (
talk)
11:23, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Maungarei is currently a redlink -- 67.70.35.44 ( talk) 11:30, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment A slash is allowed "where a slash occurs in a phrase widely used outside Wikipedia, and a different construction would be inaccurate, unfamiliar, or ambiguous"; and we have a precedence with Aoraki / Mount Cook. Usually in NZ the general usage rapidly follows the official name (as we saw with Aoraki / Mount Cook). Haminoon ( talk) 21:47, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose per
WP:COMMONNAME. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
14:30, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Hi Necrothesp, do you have any evidence to support that this isn't a commonly-recognised name, and if so what is the commonly-recognised name? I live near the maunga and notice that Maungarei is used much more than Mt Wellington (which is mainly used to refer to the nearby suburb), with written sources usually using both names. Haminoon ( talk) 19:45, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Discussion
- Any additional comments:
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Consensus seems to be that the new official double forms of this and other mountain names are not the commonly used names (it definitely seems very strange to non-New Zealanders), but Haminoon says that at least locally "Maungarei" is more often used. That does not seem like a case for the official name to me, but a case for using "Maungarei" as the article title. — innotata 23:24, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- One of the problems with this page is that it covers both the suburb and the maunga. The suburb is only called "Mt Wellington", while the maunga uses both names. Would it be okay to split this into two pages? (although I'm not sure if the suburb is notable enough for a page). Haminoon ( talk) 23:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- Also the case for which name to use for the maunga is tricky because there aren't many written references. My perception is that Maungarei is used more verbally, but an elderly Pakeha may have a different perception.
Haminoon (
talk)
23:32, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- Don't have much to say about the above, but defined geographic localities tend to be notable ( WP:GEOLAND). — innotata 00:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
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Note the indexing of the categories: Auckland Volcanic Field - indexed under W for "Wellington, Mt." (the volcano); Auckland- indexed under M for "Mount Wellington" (the suburb). Same applies with Mount Eden (and will soon apply with Mts Roskill and Albert). [[User:Grutness|
Grutness
talk
]] 11:03, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) — innotata 23:18, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Mount Wellington, New Zealand → Maungarei / Mount Wellington – New name for cone. [1] [2] Haminoon ( talk) 04:43, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Act 2014". Retrieved 11 October 2014.
- ^ "Volcanic cones regain Maori names". Retrieved 11 October 2014.
Survey
- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''or*'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
- Oppose
MOS:SLASH we should avoid slashes whenever possible.
WP:SUBPAGE this makes the appearance of a subpage, and messes up the associated talk pages, which will assume it is a subpage. Further, per internet wide usage, this is assumed to be a subpage in URL formulations. We can replace it with a DASH, like how other jurisdictions use an mdash.
WP:OFFICIALNAMES we don't just use official names because they are official --
67.70.35.44 (
talk)
11:23, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Maungarei is currently a redlink -- 67.70.35.44 ( talk) 11:30, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment A slash is allowed "where a slash occurs in a phrase widely used outside Wikipedia, and a different construction would be inaccurate, unfamiliar, or ambiguous"; and we have a precedence with Aoraki / Mount Cook. Usually in NZ the general usage rapidly follows the official name (as we saw with Aoraki / Mount Cook). Haminoon ( talk) 21:47, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose per
WP:COMMONNAME. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
14:30, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Hi Necrothesp, do you have any evidence to support that this isn't a commonly-recognised name, and if so what is the commonly-recognised name? I live near the maunga and notice that Maungarei is used much more than Mt Wellington (which is mainly used to refer to the nearby suburb), with written sources usually using both names. Haminoon ( talk) 19:45, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Discussion
- Any additional comments:
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Consensus seems to be that the new official double forms of this and other mountain names are not the commonly used names (it definitely seems very strange to non-New Zealanders), but Haminoon says that at least locally "Maungarei" is more often used. That does not seem like a case for the official name to me, but a case for using "Maungarei" as the article title. — innotata 23:24, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- One of the problems with this page is that it covers both the suburb and the maunga. The suburb is only called "Mt Wellington", while the maunga uses both names. Would it be okay to split this into two pages? (although I'm not sure if the suburb is notable enough for a page). Haminoon ( talk) 23:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- Also the case for which name to use for the maunga is tricky because there aren't many written references. My perception is that Maungarei is used more verbally, but an elderly Pakeha may have a different perception.
Haminoon (
talk)
23:32, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- Don't have much to say about the above, but defined geographic localities tend to be notable ( WP:GEOLAND). — innotata 00:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)