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An advert tag was added without justification on the talk page which I removed. Tags such as these need commentary on talk pages in order to improve the article. Please list suggested changes here first before restoring. - Classicfilms ( talk) 13:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I've completed a major edit of the article. Please review it and let me know if you have any further suggestions. Thanks, - Classicfilms ( talk) 19:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I strongly believe that it is inappropriate to remove the statement that MHC is a women's college. First, the overwhelming majority of the literature will refer to MHC is a women's college in spite of the fact that they graduate FtM students, and as such we must refer to MHC as such as per WP:UNDUE. Even MHC refers to itself as a "college for women". Second, one of the most important characteristics of MHC that an unfamiliar reader should know is that it is a women's college, and that must be presented prominently up-front. On the other hand, the fact that MHC graduates FtM's is NOT a prominent fact about the institution and does not merit mention in the lead as per WP:LEAD. Third, if you are worried about technical accuracy, maybe you'll find comfort in knowing that the article on women's college that is linked now states that such schools enroll "exclusively or almost exclusively women", which doesn't exclude MHC's model.
That being said, I think the information about their policy on FtMs does merit inclusion in the article: just not in the lead, and not at the cost of clarity and accuracy. – DroEsperanto( t / c) 20:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Mount Holyoke College uses the term Commencement. [1] LowerLake ( talk) 19:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)LowerLake
Info and invitation to MHC. Women in Red has a drive during March to create and improve articles on women alumni of universities. International Women's Day is on March 8th and we invite others to mirror the event in the UK in Cambridge. Please sign up or ask for help at Women in Red. Hope you can make it. We have tools that will allow you to find missing women alumni from MHC or any other university. We are interested in editors who want to work in any language. Victuallers ( talk) 08:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
An unregistered user ( 24.91.54.82, and 138.110.167.187, both of which are geolocated to near Mount Holyoke College) changed the start of the page to say
instead of
I reverted this change for three reasons. First, Mount Holyoke College still considers itself to be a women's college, despite admitting transgender students. For example, see [1]. On their "Fast Facts" page, it says "Mount Holyoke College is a highly selective, nondenominational, residential, research liberal arts college for women that is gender diverse and welcomes applications from female, trans and non-binary students." Thus, the first sentence should still refer to them as a women's college. In addition, see the comment earlier on the talk page (admittedly from a decade ago) that provides good reasons to continue referring to them as a women's college. Finally, even if the first paragraph shouldn't refer to them as a women's college, this history about their admittance of transgender students doesn't belong in the first two sentences of the article.
I could agree with calling it "a private liberal arts college for women," since that matches up with the language used on a lot of Mount Holyoke's website and would likely be a more acceptable alternative for transgender men and nonbinary individuals who attend Mount Holyoke and don't want to be referred to as "women." Gbear605 ( talk) 16:40, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Elaine Chao was removed as a notable person by an anonymous user with no explanation. I believe she meets the criteria for notability, and with no explanation as to the removal, I've reverted the change. Golden122306 ( talk) 16:23, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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An advert tag was added without justification on the talk page which I removed. Tags such as these need commentary on talk pages in order to improve the article. Please list suggested changes here first before restoring. - Classicfilms ( talk) 13:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I've completed a major edit of the article. Please review it and let me know if you have any further suggestions. Thanks, - Classicfilms ( talk) 19:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I strongly believe that it is inappropriate to remove the statement that MHC is a women's college. First, the overwhelming majority of the literature will refer to MHC is a women's college in spite of the fact that they graduate FtM students, and as such we must refer to MHC as such as per WP:UNDUE. Even MHC refers to itself as a "college for women". Second, one of the most important characteristics of MHC that an unfamiliar reader should know is that it is a women's college, and that must be presented prominently up-front. On the other hand, the fact that MHC graduates FtM's is NOT a prominent fact about the institution and does not merit mention in the lead as per WP:LEAD. Third, if you are worried about technical accuracy, maybe you'll find comfort in knowing that the article on women's college that is linked now states that such schools enroll "exclusively or almost exclusively women", which doesn't exclude MHC's model.
That being said, I think the information about their policy on FtMs does merit inclusion in the article: just not in the lead, and not at the cost of clarity and accuracy. – DroEsperanto( t / c) 20:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Mount Holyoke College uses the term Commencement. [1] LowerLake ( talk) 19:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)LowerLake
Info and invitation to MHC. Women in Red has a drive during March to create and improve articles on women alumni of universities. International Women's Day is on March 8th and we invite others to mirror the event in the UK in Cambridge. Please sign up or ask for help at Women in Red. Hope you can make it. We have tools that will allow you to find missing women alumni from MHC or any other university. We are interested in editors who want to work in any language. Victuallers ( talk) 08:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
An unregistered user ( 24.91.54.82, and 138.110.167.187, both of which are geolocated to near Mount Holyoke College) changed the start of the page to say
instead of
I reverted this change for three reasons. First, Mount Holyoke College still considers itself to be a women's college, despite admitting transgender students. For example, see [1]. On their "Fast Facts" page, it says "Mount Holyoke College is a highly selective, nondenominational, residential, research liberal arts college for women that is gender diverse and welcomes applications from female, trans and non-binary students." Thus, the first sentence should still refer to them as a women's college. In addition, see the comment earlier on the talk page (admittedly from a decade ago) that provides good reasons to continue referring to them as a women's college. Finally, even if the first paragraph shouldn't refer to them as a women's college, this history about their admittance of transgender students doesn't belong in the first two sentences of the article.
I could agree with calling it "a private liberal arts college for women," since that matches up with the language used on a lot of Mount Holyoke's website and would likely be a more acceptable alternative for transgender men and nonbinary individuals who attend Mount Holyoke and don't want to be referred to as "women." Gbear605 ( talk) 16:40, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Elaine Chao was removed as a notable person by an anonymous user with no explanation. I believe she meets the criteria for notability, and with no explanation as to the removal, I've reverted the change. Golden122306 ( talk) 16:23, 4 September 2022 (UTC)