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Dear Editor This mountain doesn't belong to British empire and also didn't have been colonized. So nat any British institute or Wikipedia have name it's title as the secondary names. The basic name should be in native names. So with due respect I request you to change the title to Mt. Sagarmatha Chomolungma. Not any other name can be allowed. In description some empire named it as Mt. Everest. Because, not any british people had explored it, but only saw from far away and by calculation they estimated its height. So no one can claim it. So please change it. Thanks 103.174.168.65 ( talk) 15:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
The reference for this is now an irrecoverable dead link, but it seems to have been a WP:SPS. I propose to replace it with one from the American Congress on Surveying and Mapping. [1] As this is a bit sensitive (China/Nepal border) I thought I'd check here first.
-- AntientNestor ( talk) 07:59, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Interestingly, the China State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping locates the peak at 27°59′15.8″N 86°55′39.5″E / 27.987722°N 86.927639°E (to the nearest 0.1 degree). [4] This is somewhat to the east in China. When I look at the topographic map at Acme and click on the highest topo point (instead of the peak icon), I get 27°59′19″N 86°55′31″E / 27.98861°N 86.92528°E (nearest second), also a little bit in China, but much closer to the other coordinates. — hike395 ( talk) 15:45, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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"In the early 1960s, the Nepali government coined the Nepali name Sagarmāthā (IAST transcription) or Sagar-Matha (सगर-माथा, [sʌɡʌrmatʰa], lit. "goddess of the sky"), ... "
It certainly was not coined in the 1960s. There are several newspaper articles from the time of the first successful climb that mentions the name. For eg, Guardian, July 13, 1953 ( https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian-everest1/143686293/ ) says "Everest is known in Nepal as Sagarmatha".
What I understand from newspapers in the 1960s is that the Chinese claimed that this word was newly coined by Nepal while Nepal argued that it is an ancient name. Can someone who knows the subject comment on this. In any case, "early 1960s" is incorrect. Tintin 17:17, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
One sentence reads as follows:
"The modern pronunciation of Everest (/ˈɛvərɪst/) is different from Sir George's pronunciation of his surname (/ˈiːvrɪst/ EEV-rist)."
In North American English I have heard only /ˈɛvərɛst/ and not /ˈɛvərɪst/.
In Mount Everest#Routes, the last sentence of the 1st paragraph says:
This was, however, a route decision dictated more by politics than by design, as the Chinese border was closed to the western world in the 1950s, after the People's Republic of China invaded Tibet.
Meanwhile, it doesn't fit in the context which basically talking about technical details, and the word invaded seems to be unneutral, because the article linked to the word is Battle of Chamdo and this article is much more neutral.
Furthermore, this content can be found in Three_Steps, which is the main article of the north route. MspreilsCN ( talk) 14:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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The article states: Its elevation (snow height) of 8,848.86 m (29,031 ft 8+1⁄2 in) was most recently established in 2020 by the Chinese and Nepali authorities.
It would be good for the article to show a profile of Mount Everest's full height, and to make clear that climbers actually climb only part of this profile (i.e. part of the geological mass). For example, driving into North base camp and summiting from there, means climbing 3700m, or 42% of Mount Everest's height. Flying from Kathmandu to Lukla and starting from there means climbing 5990m, or 68% of Mount Everest's height. So suggest inclusion of the following paragraph:
Climbers typically ascend only part of Mount Everest's elevation, as the mountain's full elevation is measured from the geoid (global mean sea level). The closest sea to Everest's peak is the Bay of Bengal, almost 700 km away. So to approximate a climb of the entire height of Mount Everest, one would need to start from sea level there, a feat accomplished by [ Macartney Snape's] team in 1990.
This could be a reference to Mount Everest's full height profile (see Figs 2, 3, 5)
This provides a detailed examination of standard and non-standard climbing routes. Suggest inclusion of it as a reference in addition to [256]. 124.148.218.244 ( talk) 06:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Somebody please educate me why Everest belongs to china as well 176.205.23.138 ( talk) 18:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
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Dear Editor This mountain doesn't belong to British empire and also didn't have been colonized. So nat any British institute or Wikipedia have name it's title as the secondary names. The basic name should be in native names. So with due respect I request you to change the title to Mt. Sagarmatha Chomolungma. Not any other name can be allowed. In description some empire named it as Mt. Everest. Because, not any british people had explored it, but only saw from far away and by calculation they estimated its height. So no one can claim it. So please change it. Thanks 103.174.168.65 ( talk) 15:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
The reference for this is now an irrecoverable dead link, but it seems to have been a WP:SPS. I propose to replace it with one from the American Congress on Surveying and Mapping. [1] As this is a bit sensitive (China/Nepal border) I thought I'd check here first.
-- AntientNestor ( talk) 07:59, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Interestingly, the China State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping locates the peak at 27°59′15.8″N 86°55′39.5″E / 27.987722°N 86.927639°E (to the nearest 0.1 degree). [4] This is somewhat to the east in China. When I look at the topographic map at Acme and click on the highest topo point (instead of the peak icon), I get 27°59′19″N 86°55′31″E / 27.98861°N 86.92528°E (nearest second), also a little bit in China, but much closer to the other coordinates. — hike395 ( talk) 15:45, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
References
"In the early 1960s, the Nepali government coined the Nepali name Sagarmāthā (IAST transcription) or Sagar-Matha (सगर-माथा, [sʌɡʌrmatʰa], lit. "goddess of the sky"), ... "
It certainly was not coined in the 1960s. There are several newspaper articles from the time of the first successful climb that mentions the name. For eg, Guardian, July 13, 1953 ( https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian-everest1/143686293/ ) says "Everest is known in Nepal as Sagarmatha".
What I understand from newspapers in the 1960s is that the Chinese claimed that this word was newly coined by Nepal while Nepal argued that it is an ancient name. Can someone who knows the subject comment on this. In any case, "early 1960s" is incorrect. Tintin 17:17, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
One sentence reads as follows:
"The modern pronunciation of Everest (/ˈɛvərɪst/) is different from Sir George's pronunciation of his surname (/ˈiːvrɪst/ EEV-rist)."
In North American English I have heard only /ˈɛvərɛst/ and not /ˈɛvərɪst/.
In Mount Everest#Routes, the last sentence of the 1st paragraph says:
This was, however, a route decision dictated more by politics than by design, as the Chinese border was closed to the western world in the 1950s, after the People's Republic of China invaded Tibet.
Meanwhile, it doesn't fit in the context which basically talking about technical details, and the word invaded seems to be unneutral, because the article linked to the word is Battle of Chamdo and this article is much more neutral.
Furthermore, this content can be found in Three_Steps, which is the main article of the north route. MspreilsCN ( talk) 14:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The article states: Its elevation (snow height) of 8,848.86 m (29,031 ft 8+1⁄2 in) was most recently established in 2020 by the Chinese and Nepali authorities.
It would be good for the article to show a profile of Mount Everest's full height, and to make clear that climbers actually climb only part of this profile (i.e. part of the geological mass). For example, driving into North base camp and summiting from there, means climbing 3700m, or 42% of Mount Everest's height. Flying from Kathmandu to Lukla and starting from there means climbing 5990m, or 68% of Mount Everest's height. So suggest inclusion of the following paragraph:
Climbers typically ascend only part of Mount Everest's elevation, as the mountain's full elevation is measured from the geoid (global mean sea level). The closest sea to Everest's peak is the Bay of Bengal, almost 700 km away. So to approximate a climb of the entire height of Mount Everest, one would need to start from sea level there, a feat accomplished by [ Macartney Snape's] team in 1990.
This could be a reference to Mount Everest's full height profile (see Figs 2, 3, 5)
This provides a detailed examination of standard and non-standard climbing routes. Suggest inclusion of it as a reference in addition to [256]. 124.148.218.244 ( talk) 06:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Somebody please educate me why Everest belongs to china as well 176.205.23.138 ( talk) 18:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)