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I've tried my best to keep the Hawkwind in one place as was suggested, but I notice that " Kings of Speed" has now had the Motorhead/Valium ten addded, which has Motorhead as the A-side for the single. This naming convention is driving me nuts, that should have it's own page " Motorhead (1981 single)", the Motorhead (song) article needs changing into just that and made an overview article, without predudic to either band's releases, the other two need moving to the relevant [[Motorhead (year single)]] otherwise it'll be falling over itself, the Hawkwind linkages do so already.-- Alf melmac 06:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I can understand your approach that pages should be based on product, I too had that opinion until kinboyk forced me to merge the 1972 and 1982 " Silver Machine" recordings into one article and made me see that articles based around a song covering all aspects of it (and its different releases) is far more comprehensive and informative for the reader than multiple articles based around the product. It's a different way of thinking, but when you get it you'll understand - try thinking about it from the general reader's point of view, rather than as a cataloguer. The 1975 b-side and 1981 a-side of Hawkwind's "Motorhead" are the same recording, but with different overdubs. Splitting the page into two will only devalue the overall article, anyone interested in the subject would have to read 2 pages instead of 1, and it's not as if they're weighty. Drwhawkfan 17:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Why are there three different pages for this same song? I see this one, Motorhead (single), and Motorhead (live). I see some discussion above that argue for two pages ... but three seems excessive to me. (Note that I'm just passing through because someone categorized this page under "Songs" and I categorize pages out of "Songs"; I'm not an expert on Motorhead.) Nerwen 19:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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Different band, but same song. There's already a section on the Motörhead version here, and I'm not sure it warrants a separate article. It makes no sense to have an article about both the Hawkwind and Motörhead versions, and another about just the Motörhead version. Adam9007 ( talk) 02:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. I'm not sure why it took so long for someone to propose this merge. A second article is completely redundant. 19:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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I've tried my best to keep the Hawkwind in one place as was suggested, but I notice that " Kings of Speed" has now had the Motorhead/Valium ten addded, which has Motorhead as the A-side for the single. This naming convention is driving me nuts, that should have it's own page " Motorhead (1981 single)", the Motorhead (song) article needs changing into just that and made an overview article, without predudic to either band's releases, the other two need moving to the relevant [[Motorhead (year single)]] otherwise it'll be falling over itself, the Hawkwind linkages do so already.-- Alf melmac 06:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I can understand your approach that pages should be based on product, I too had that opinion until kinboyk forced me to merge the 1972 and 1982 " Silver Machine" recordings into one article and made me see that articles based around a song covering all aspects of it (and its different releases) is far more comprehensive and informative for the reader than multiple articles based around the product. It's a different way of thinking, but when you get it you'll understand - try thinking about it from the general reader's point of view, rather than as a cataloguer. The 1975 b-side and 1981 a-side of Hawkwind's "Motorhead" are the same recording, but with different overdubs. Splitting the page into two will only devalue the overall article, anyone interested in the subject would have to read 2 pages instead of 1, and it's not as if they're weighty. Drwhawkfan 17:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Why are there three different pages for this same song? I see this one, Motorhead (single), and Motorhead (live). I see some discussion above that argue for two pages ... but three seems excessive to me. (Note that I'm just passing through because someone categorized this page under "Songs" and I categorize pages out of "Songs"; I'm not an expert on Motorhead.) Nerwen 19:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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What is pearls before swine? Is this a known thing? How does one sign up for whatever this means, anyway? How about Judas, Ga Ga? Is it all about some made up monkey in a cage? What God Wants </\> 75.224.4.58 ( talk) 04:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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Different band, but same song. There's already a section on the Motörhead version here, and I'm not sure it warrants a separate article. It makes no sense to have an article about both the Hawkwind and Motörhead versions, and another about just the Motörhead version. Adam9007 ( talk) 02:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. I'm not sure why it took so long for someone to propose this merge. A second article is completely redundant. 19:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)