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I'm proposing that When Love Met Destruction is actually their full-length debut album and not an EP. The release is much too long to be an EP (11 tracks, over 30 minutes in running time) and was even marketed through the Tragic Hero website as a full-length. - GunMetal Angel 19:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Both are correct. When Love Met Destruction was original release as an 11 track full length in 2008 by Masquerade Recordings. After signing to Fearless, they re-recorded 6 of those 11 tracks and used them for the EP that was release under the same title through Tragic Hero Records in 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.97.97.26 ( talk) 05:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Dude why the fuck is gothic and doom metal listed as genres. fucking explain. their sound has no gothic or doom in it at all. Their sound is completely metalcore/post hardcore. that's it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.8.202.97 ( talk • contribs)
I don't care what there influence is that does not make them gothic metal and neither source calls them gothic. Unless you have better sources that needs to come off. The first link lists them as metalcore and post-hardcore. The other link does not even list them at all. Again either find better sources or I'm going to have it removed. -- Epica124 ( talk) 22:00, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Would Escape the Fate and Get Scared be one since TJ Bell had left MIW for them Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 08:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 08:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
I think his name should redirect to Escape the Fate's article since he is now part of that band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariel Edwards ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
It seems either we have a troll or I'm misinformed.
I quote: "This album is a little different to the other albums that Motionless in White have recorded. Infamous is all about them coming clean. Coming clean about being Satanists. Infamous is about how Motionless In White sacrifice all their fans to the mighty dark lord Satan. This album should not fall into the hands of any teenager for their own safety."
I do believe that this is wrong and seeing as there is no references I'm going to delete it. Feel free to revert it if I'm wrong.
EDIT: I think I have found the troll, He goes by the name of "Se7endaystothewolves". He appears to have made several edits to the page, None of them good or referenced. Ty163 ( talk) 13:33, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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add a picture of the band to the page] Ccdreamer ( talk) 21:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, excuse me if I'm doing this wrong I've never had an account on wikipedia nor am I sure how this works
I notice Brandon isn't listed as a member yet, I was wondering if there were any plans to do that? Or do you need like...a written statement for it to be considered verified? I know the band hasn't been very clear about whether he's an official member or not. Chris posted a vague tweet to someone that they had a drummer for their upcoming tours and said that, "Our friend Brandon will be playing with us." Nobody has been very sure if he meant temporarily or permanently, but then Brandon Richter's instagram says "Drummer for Motionless In White/The Witch Was Right" and pictures surfaced of the boys at a photoshoot and Brandon was included. It seems to me they wouldn't include Brandon in promotional shots, nor would his instagram list him as MIW's drummer unless he was joining the band as a permanent member.
I'll include links of everything I've referred to and I'll leave this to you all to figure out as I know nothing about this wikipedia thing. I don't want to ask anyone to add Brandon if we don't think this is enough to verify him as "official" yet. :)
Instagram page:
http://instagram.com/brandonragexxx
Tweet 1:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMotionless/status/311536798243364864
Tweet 2:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMotionless/status/311537008881303552
Image 1:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i1CCcFvKIQI/UUzjwIpReWI/AAAAAAAACiU/OPpzFELCrjo/s640/blogger-image--883115603.jpg
Image 2:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ee8aM1rXgAc/UUzkFPXWWsI/AAAAAAAACi8/IyKs85xhje8/s640/blogger-image--827626934.jpg
Image 3:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uTgVNRDGz1E/UUzkJnuJj9I/AAAAAAAACjE/-r0zPbagR-0/s320/blogger-image-1837621577.jpg
Image 4:
http://instagram.com/p/XLEJjAyV-g/
Images 1,2 and 3 all came from here: http://estella-maris.blogspot.com/ the woman who did Chris's makeup for the shoot.
I figured all of this was enough to assume he's official but I understand if it's not "concrete" enough.
InfamousWhorror ( talk) 22:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
They're more genres than just metalcore and heavy metal. They're also Gothic Metal. I have found a source for this:
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/motionless-in-white-mn0000726201 JoeMIW ( talk) 20:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Their early stuff was post hardcore or emo. I can see influences from bands like From First To Last and Greeley Estates in early work such as this for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXEJ0B5_ts
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Motionless in White is an American metal band from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Formed in 2005, the band consists of Chris Motionless (lead vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Ricky Horror (rhythm guitar, backing vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Devin "Ghost" Sola (bass), Ryan Sitkowski (lead guitar), Joshua Balz (keyboards), and Brandon "Rage" Richter (drums, percussion) . The band has stated that their band name derived from the Eighteen Visions song " Motionless and White". [1]
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Motionless in White is an American metal band from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Formed in 2005, the band consists of Chris Motionless (lead vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Ricky Horror (rhythm guitar, backing vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Devin "Ghost" Sola (bass), Ryan Sitkowski (lead guitar), and Joshua Balz (keyboards). The band has stated that their band name derived from the Eighteen Visions song " Motionless and White". [2]
Because Brandon "Rage" Ritcher has left the band a month or so ago, It was announced on his official instragram. Trite97 ( talk · contribs) 16:45, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
References
Can we get a source on (most) of the band members being Straight Edge? Because otherwise, it's misinformation.
Ty163 ( talk) 23:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I have removed information regarding the self-titled demo, please see
here for why.
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I have searched and searched yet I have found no interview or article regarding this EP to have been originally planned as a full length album. Due to this, I will be removing this information as there are only references to the EP, not its rumoured Album. SilentDan297 talk 13:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Would it be possible to put their early work down as post hardcore/emo?
I find their earlier work shares more elements with bands like From First to Last or Greeley Estates than metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxIaRWqKeUo for reference. Sata1991 ( talk) 23:11, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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Please add Vinny Mauro (drums) under touring members of motionless in white. It is important to note that he is not a official member of the band but only a touring member. I still feel that this is important to note on the page as Chris Motionless has said that they will not have a new drummer only touring drummers from now on.
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I would like to edit what type of metal band this is, as Motionless In White is NOT a heavy metal band, its a Gothic Metalcore band.
Its the first line of the Wikipedia of Motionless In White.
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Motionless in white is a metalcore band according to https://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/motionless-in-white , https://www.iheart.com/artist/motionless-in-white-83712/ and https://www.themetalbuzz.com/post/the-evolution-of-motionless-in-white and also uses many metalcore elements such as electronic elements and choruses so they are not "heavy metal" they are "metalcore". Thank You
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I'd like to provide extra information about the graveyard shift album and some additional details on Scoring The End Of The World. Thanks! - Gianna ( If you have any other questions you can feel free to ask!) LivingD3adGirl2897 ( talk) 18:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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I'm proposing that When Love Met Destruction is actually their full-length debut album and not an EP. The release is much too long to be an EP (11 tracks, over 30 minutes in running time) and was even marketed through the Tragic Hero website as a full-length. - GunMetal Angel 19:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Both are correct. When Love Met Destruction was original release as an 11 track full length in 2008 by Masquerade Recordings. After signing to Fearless, they re-recorded 6 of those 11 tracks and used them for the EP that was release under the same title through Tragic Hero Records in 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.97.97.26 ( talk) 05:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Dude why the fuck is gothic and doom metal listed as genres. fucking explain. their sound has no gothic or doom in it at all. Their sound is completely metalcore/post hardcore. that's it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.8.202.97 ( talk • contribs)
I don't care what there influence is that does not make them gothic metal and neither source calls them gothic. Unless you have better sources that needs to come off. The first link lists them as metalcore and post-hardcore. The other link does not even list them at all. Again either find better sources or I'm going to have it removed. -- Epica124 ( talk) 22:00, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Would Escape the Fate and Get Scared be one since TJ Bell had left MIW for them Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 08:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd Ericdeaththe2nd ( talk) 08:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
I think his name should redirect to Escape the Fate's article since he is now part of that band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariel Edwards ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
It seems either we have a troll or I'm misinformed.
I quote: "This album is a little different to the other albums that Motionless in White have recorded. Infamous is all about them coming clean. Coming clean about being Satanists. Infamous is about how Motionless In White sacrifice all their fans to the mighty dark lord Satan. This album should not fall into the hands of any teenager for their own safety."
I do believe that this is wrong and seeing as there is no references I'm going to delete it. Feel free to revert it if I'm wrong.
EDIT: I think I have found the troll, He goes by the name of "Se7endaystothewolves". He appears to have made several edits to the page, None of them good or referenced. Ty163 ( talk) 13:33, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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add a picture of the band to the page] Ccdreamer ( talk) 21:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, excuse me if I'm doing this wrong I've never had an account on wikipedia nor am I sure how this works
I notice Brandon isn't listed as a member yet, I was wondering if there were any plans to do that? Or do you need like...a written statement for it to be considered verified? I know the band hasn't been very clear about whether he's an official member or not. Chris posted a vague tweet to someone that they had a drummer for their upcoming tours and said that, "Our friend Brandon will be playing with us." Nobody has been very sure if he meant temporarily or permanently, but then Brandon Richter's instagram says "Drummer for Motionless In White/The Witch Was Right" and pictures surfaced of the boys at a photoshoot and Brandon was included. It seems to me they wouldn't include Brandon in promotional shots, nor would his instagram list him as MIW's drummer unless he was joining the band as a permanent member.
I'll include links of everything I've referred to and I'll leave this to you all to figure out as I know nothing about this wikipedia thing. I don't want to ask anyone to add Brandon if we don't think this is enough to verify him as "official" yet. :)
Instagram page:
http://instagram.com/brandonragexxx
Tweet 1:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMotionless/status/311536798243364864
Tweet 2:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMotionless/status/311537008881303552
Image 1:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i1CCcFvKIQI/UUzjwIpReWI/AAAAAAAACiU/OPpzFELCrjo/s640/blogger-image--883115603.jpg
Image 2:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ee8aM1rXgAc/UUzkFPXWWsI/AAAAAAAACi8/IyKs85xhje8/s640/blogger-image--827626934.jpg
Image 3:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uTgVNRDGz1E/UUzkJnuJj9I/AAAAAAAACjE/-r0zPbagR-0/s320/blogger-image-1837621577.jpg
Image 4:
http://instagram.com/p/XLEJjAyV-g/
Images 1,2 and 3 all came from here: http://estella-maris.blogspot.com/ the woman who did Chris's makeup for the shoot.
I figured all of this was enough to assume he's official but I understand if it's not "concrete" enough.
InfamousWhorror ( talk) 22:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
They're more genres than just metalcore and heavy metal. They're also Gothic Metal. I have found a source for this:
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/motionless-in-white-mn0000726201 JoeMIW ( talk) 20:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Their early stuff was post hardcore or emo. I can see influences from bands like From First To Last and Greeley Estates in early work such as this for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXEJ0B5_ts
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Motionless in White is an American metal band from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Formed in 2005, the band consists of Chris Motionless (lead vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Ricky Horror (rhythm guitar, backing vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Devin "Ghost" Sola (bass), Ryan Sitkowski (lead guitar), Joshua Balz (keyboards), and Brandon "Rage" Richter (drums, percussion) . The band has stated that their band name derived from the Eighteen Visions song " Motionless and White". [1]
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Motionless in White is an American metal band from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Formed in 2005, the band consists of Chris Motionless (lead vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Ricky Horror (rhythm guitar, backing vocals, studio multi-instrumentalist), Devin "Ghost" Sola (bass), Ryan Sitkowski (lead guitar), and Joshua Balz (keyboards). The band has stated that their band name derived from the Eighteen Visions song " Motionless and White". [2]
Because Brandon "Rage" Ritcher has left the band a month or so ago, It was announced on his official instragram. Trite97 ( talk · contribs) 16:45, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
References
Can we get a source on (most) of the band members being Straight Edge? Because otherwise, it's misinformation.
Ty163 ( talk) 23:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I have removed information regarding the self-titled demo, please see
here for why.
SilentDan297
talk 18:57, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I have searched and searched yet I have found no interview or article regarding this EP to have been originally planned as a full length album. Due to this, I will be removing this information as there are only references to the EP, not its rumoured Album. SilentDan297 talk 13:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Would it be possible to put their early work down as post hardcore/emo?
I find their earlier work shares more elements with bands like From First to Last or Greeley Estates than metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxIaRWqKeUo for reference. Sata1991 ( talk) 23:11, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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Please add Vinny Mauro (drums) under touring members of motionless in white. It is important to note that he is not a official member of the band but only a touring member. I still feel that this is important to note on the page as Chris Motionless has said that they will not have a new drummer only touring drummers from now on.
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I would like to edit what type of metal band this is, as Motionless In White is NOT a heavy metal band, its a Gothic Metalcore band.
Its the first line of the Wikipedia of Motionless In White.
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Motionless in white is a metalcore band according to https://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/motionless-in-white , https://www.iheart.com/artist/motionless-in-white-83712/ and https://www.themetalbuzz.com/post/the-evolution-of-motionless-in-white and also uses many metalcore elements such as electronic elements and choruses so they are not "heavy metal" they are "metalcore". Thank You
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I'd like to provide extra information about the graveyard shift album and some additional details on Scoring The End Of The World. Thanks! - Gianna ( If you have any other questions you can feel free to ask!) LivingD3adGirl2897 ( talk) 18:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)