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I think they ALL Amiga OS & Amiga OS-Like operating systems are microkernel, and always were to begin with...unless there is recent development to add memory protection and that function caused it to be another type of kernel. MorphOS is based on the Quark Microkernel, and AmigaOS is based on Exec. That is very confusing...and also the source given is now a dead link. I will contact MorphOS Team to verify this. In-Correct ( talk) 00:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
There need to be more clarification about this in the article. Which elements of MorphOS are open source? Or which elements of MorphOS are proprietary. This article is somewhat confusing. Very sad that there aren't many pieces of information about this Amiga-like operating system.
Komitsuki ( talk) 01:11, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Open source components are listed at the source code download page: https://www.morphos-team.net/sources 86.115.29.137 ( talk) 09:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Just asking for someone to definetely place any coerent info related to the notice in the official home page
It's sad to see that MorphOS has turned into a battle ground where pages not directly related to MorphOS is promoted at and the content of the page is altered to contain one persons wishes about the death of MorphOS. The whole campaign is childish, and the claim seems to be quite false, for if they had, then a normal person would have taken the matter to a court instead of vandalise the wikipedia. Trizt
Please correct the image.
AmigaOS 4 is not related with AmigaOS 3.9 by Haage&Partner. AOS4 is developed by Hyperion from scratch, descending directly from 3.1 and 3.5.
I protected this page due to the edit war. Please try to sort out this dispute using this talk page, and be sure to cite sources. Rhobite 19:56, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Rhobite, for locking the MorphOS page. As I see it will be really difficult to get to an agreement with Mr Gerber, as he feels quite pissed on the remaining MorphOS development Team and Genesi. Even letting him have a link to his homepage hasn't changed his vandalism on the wikipedia entry. Trizt
I was directly involved in the creation and development of MorphOS and it is quite insulting to see wrong information here. MorphOS is owned by its contributors which includes various people and it is not owned by Genesi. It doesn't matter that Genesi claims they own it, they don't. Trizt, you have a MorphOS installation yourself, why don't you check the about window and read the names here? Those are the copyright holders. [1] was created by the MorphOS authors and [2] is a protest against Genesi. Why don't your try mailing Oliver Wagner, Stefan Stuntz and Treveur Bretaudiere if you think this page is done by an individual they would surely deny being involved right? Also I suppose [3] is untrue as well?
Sure, it is sad what happened, but there's no need to lie. More sources? See [4] to have Genesi themselves recognize they owe money to Stefan Stuntz and that they won't pay him. Quote:
"For the record, we were agreeable to the terms we worked out with you. We do acknowledge the value of your work and saw your future involvement as essential.
Unfortunately, we no longer felt comfortable with the development in general thus it made little sense to invest further into the effort. If we had we would have paid you."
What else do you need?
Oh, and if you think I'm trying to destroy MorphOS. Perhaps you could check the Ambient archive I released, look at all the work done there and consider I released it for free for anyone to use, [5].
So basically you're saying that you're writing optimistic and wrong information in order to "not kill MorphOS".
Optimistic, because Ralph Schmidt (laire) himself, one of the leading MorphOS developer, told about the development state here, [7]. Notice how Sigbjoern Skjaeret (CISC) and Jacek Piszeck (jacaDcaps) have issues with him when he tries to blame developers.
Wrong information because the licensing was done with Thendic France and is not transferable, hence, Genesi cannot own MorphOS parts. What they did was making promises but it seems no one reads [8].
Stefan Stuntz also confirms it at [9] which is his own website.
So far all of this isn't nice. But I thought wikipedia was about correct information and not about fantasy and wishfull thinking for Amiga users.
I've cleaned up MorphOS; the war did some damage to the page layout. If I omitted anything or if any of the involved users need me to do something on the page, notify me on my user talk page. -- Merovingian (t) (c) (w) 12:32, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
I give up. Argueing with Amiga users is pointless. MorphOS is under very fast development. Genesi is a great company. Nothing happened and everything runs smoothly, it was all a bad dream. Just don't ask yourself why there is still no new release after 2 years. What makes you think I didn't go to court btw? And since when people have to go to court to correct wikipedia articles?
I gave enough sources to backup my claims. If this is how wikipedia disputes are sorted out, then one should be very careful with other content. My point was that Genesi doesn't own MorphOS, the current article tells otherwise by pointing "The MorphOS Homepage" to their website and flagging the homepage written by the developers of the OS itself as "inofficial".
Thank You who ever you are for bringing this very nice discussion to wikipedia :-(
/Gunne
Be good. I've unprotected because there seem to be no ongoing discussions. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 06:03, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I have edited to add that Efika will be supported in the next official release.
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1305 -- anon.
I was reading the beginning of this article, stating that MorphOS is an open source operating system. However, the box on the side states that MorphOS is closed source. Which one is it? -mogchr 12:27 GMT -5:00
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 00:43, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Informations about MorphOS releases are both in simple table and text bellow (which contains mostly the same informations). I would like to join both groups in single table. Any objections? Pavlor ( talk) 10:44, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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I think they ALL Amiga OS & Amiga OS-Like operating systems are microkernel, and always were to begin with...unless there is recent development to add memory protection and that function caused it to be another type of kernel. MorphOS is based on the Quark Microkernel, and AmigaOS is based on Exec. That is very confusing...and also the source given is now a dead link. I will contact MorphOS Team to verify this. In-Correct ( talk) 00:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
There need to be more clarification about this in the article. Which elements of MorphOS are open source? Or which elements of MorphOS are proprietary. This article is somewhat confusing. Very sad that there aren't many pieces of information about this Amiga-like operating system.
Komitsuki ( talk) 01:11, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Open source components are listed at the source code download page: https://www.morphos-team.net/sources 86.115.29.137 ( talk) 09:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Just asking for someone to definetely place any coerent info related to the notice in the official home page
It's sad to see that MorphOS has turned into a battle ground where pages not directly related to MorphOS is promoted at and the content of the page is altered to contain one persons wishes about the death of MorphOS. The whole campaign is childish, and the claim seems to be quite false, for if they had, then a normal person would have taken the matter to a court instead of vandalise the wikipedia. Trizt
Please correct the image.
AmigaOS 4 is not related with AmigaOS 3.9 by Haage&Partner. AOS4 is developed by Hyperion from scratch, descending directly from 3.1 and 3.5.
I protected this page due to the edit war. Please try to sort out this dispute using this talk page, and be sure to cite sources. Rhobite 19:56, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Rhobite, for locking the MorphOS page. As I see it will be really difficult to get to an agreement with Mr Gerber, as he feels quite pissed on the remaining MorphOS development Team and Genesi. Even letting him have a link to his homepage hasn't changed his vandalism on the wikipedia entry. Trizt
I was directly involved in the creation and development of MorphOS and it is quite insulting to see wrong information here. MorphOS is owned by its contributors which includes various people and it is not owned by Genesi. It doesn't matter that Genesi claims they own it, they don't. Trizt, you have a MorphOS installation yourself, why don't you check the about window and read the names here? Those are the copyright holders. [1] was created by the MorphOS authors and [2] is a protest against Genesi. Why don't your try mailing Oliver Wagner, Stefan Stuntz and Treveur Bretaudiere if you think this page is done by an individual they would surely deny being involved right? Also I suppose [3] is untrue as well?
Sure, it is sad what happened, but there's no need to lie. More sources? See [4] to have Genesi themselves recognize they owe money to Stefan Stuntz and that they won't pay him. Quote:
"For the record, we were agreeable to the terms we worked out with you. We do acknowledge the value of your work and saw your future involvement as essential.
Unfortunately, we no longer felt comfortable with the development in general thus it made little sense to invest further into the effort. If we had we would have paid you."
What else do you need?
Oh, and if you think I'm trying to destroy MorphOS. Perhaps you could check the Ambient archive I released, look at all the work done there and consider I released it for free for anyone to use, [5].
So basically you're saying that you're writing optimistic and wrong information in order to "not kill MorphOS".
Optimistic, because Ralph Schmidt (laire) himself, one of the leading MorphOS developer, told about the development state here, [7]. Notice how Sigbjoern Skjaeret (CISC) and Jacek Piszeck (jacaDcaps) have issues with him when he tries to blame developers.
Wrong information because the licensing was done with Thendic France and is not transferable, hence, Genesi cannot own MorphOS parts. What they did was making promises but it seems no one reads [8].
Stefan Stuntz also confirms it at [9] which is his own website.
So far all of this isn't nice. But I thought wikipedia was about correct information and not about fantasy and wishfull thinking for Amiga users.
I've cleaned up MorphOS; the war did some damage to the page layout. If I omitted anything or if any of the involved users need me to do something on the page, notify me on my user talk page. -- Merovingian (t) (c) (w) 12:32, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
I give up. Argueing with Amiga users is pointless. MorphOS is under very fast development. Genesi is a great company. Nothing happened and everything runs smoothly, it was all a bad dream. Just don't ask yourself why there is still no new release after 2 years. What makes you think I didn't go to court btw? And since when people have to go to court to correct wikipedia articles?
I gave enough sources to backup my claims. If this is how wikipedia disputes are sorted out, then one should be very careful with other content. My point was that Genesi doesn't own MorphOS, the current article tells otherwise by pointing "The MorphOS Homepage" to their website and flagging the homepage written by the developers of the OS itself as "inofficial".
Thank You who ever you are for bringing this very nice discussion to wikipedia :-(
/Gunne
Be good. I've unprotected because there seem to be no ongoing discussions. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 06:03, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I have edited to add that Efika will be supported in the next official release.
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1305 -- anon.
I was reading the beginning of this article, stating that MorphOS is an open source operating system. However, the box on the side states that MorphOS is closed source. Which one is it? -mogchr 12:27 GMT -5:00
Image:Lmm c.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 00:43, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Informations about MorphOS releases are both in simple table and text bellow (which contains mostly the same informations). I would like to join both groups in single table. Any objections? Pavlor ( talk) 10:44, 24 August 2016 (UTC)