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What, precisely, seems to be the controversy regarding the college's claim to be the nation's sixth oldest school? As a co-educational, four-year liberal arts college with the name "Moravian College," it has only been around sixty years or so. But it clearly traces its lineage to preceding institutions, giving it, to the best of my knowledge, the right to make this claim--which I have never seen disputed anywhere else but here.
I don't think it's all that important, and it really isn't a legitimate selling feature IMHO, compared to other things like, oh, academic standards, accomplished faculty, and alumni achievement--none of which Moravian has in abundance. But someone seems to have a real stick in their craw about the claim "sixth-oldest college" to keep coming here and amending the language of that paragraph as if to say this statement is simply made-up and shouldn't be believed.
Can whoever keeps doing this back up this "controversy" with some references/links, please? Otherwise I'm going to assume someone just has an ax to grind and either delete the language or flag this article with a non-neutral POV. -- Free-world 21:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as how the original conversation on the topic is old enough to drive a car now, ill make this a new section. 1742 is NOT the date the College was founded. the College was founded in 1807, which is even stated in the article. 1742 is when the Girls school was founded, the girl's school was a Primary school educating young girls. The seminary that was founded in 1807 as a college was not accredited as a college until 1863, again stated in the article itself.
The school celebrated its centennial (100 year anniversary) in 1907, which would be hard to do if the school was founded in 1742 (making its centennial be 1842). The school itself has recognized this. [4] [5] [6]. Some time in the 1940s/1950s the school changed its own foundation date to when the girls school was made to make it seem the school is more prestigious. All articles cited stating the foundation as 1742 are paid for BY THE SCHOOL and should not be used to establish the foundation date. I've included the three arguable foundation dates in the info box and a reworked preamble. I will revert any changes to the contrary unless otherwise consensus is reached. Scu ba ( talk) 17:40, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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What, precisely, seems to be the controversy regarding the college's claim to be the nation's sixth oldest school? As a co-educational, four-year liberal arts college with the name "Moravian College," it has only been around sixty years or so. But it clearly traces its lineage to preceding institutions, giving it, to the best of my knowledge, the right to make this claim--which I have never seen disputed anywhere else but here.
I don't think it's all that important, and it really isn't a legitimate selling feature IMHO, compared to other things like, oh, academic standards, accomplished faculty, and alumni achievement--none of which Moravian has in abundance. But someone seems to have a real stick in their craw about the claim "sixth-oldest college" to keep coming here and amending the language of that paragraph as if to say this statement is simply made-up and shouldn't be believed.
Can whoever keeps doing this back up this "controversy" with some references/links, please? Otherwise I'm going to assume someone just has an ax to grind and either delete the language or flag this article with a non-neutral POV. -- Free-world 21:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as how the original conversation on the topic is old enough to drive a car now, ill make this a new section. 1742 is NOT the date the College was founded. the College was founded in 1807, which is even stated in the article. 1742 is when the Girls school was founded, the girl's school was a Primary school educating young girls. The seminary that was founded in 1807 as a college was not accredited as a college until 1863, again stated in the article itself.
The school celebrated its centennial (100 year anniversary) in 1907, which would be hard to do if the school was founded in 1742 (making its centennial be 1842). The school itself has recognized this. [4] [5] [6]. Some time in the 1940s/1950s the school changed its own foundation date to when the girls school was made to make it seem the school is more prestigious. All articles cited stating the foundation as 1742 are paid for BY THE SCHOOL and should not be used to establish the foundation date. I've included the three arguable foundation dates in the info box and a reworked preamble. I will revert any changes to the contrary unless otherwise consensus is reached. Scu ba ( talk) 17:40, 1 May 2023 (UTC)