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Moonsund is more commonly used in English than Moonzund, thus I propose moving the page appropriately. Thoughts? Martintg ( talk) 01:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
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The Russians in particular gained a reputation for not taking prisoners, shooting them out of hand or even torturing captives to death. The fighting on Saaremaa is a grim example , it is not known whether any Germans were taken prisoner at all. For instance, an officer was hung from a nearby road sign, a few Germans who just missed the last evacuation were forced to stand in the icy Baltic sea for hours, then pulled ashore and shot. [1] Civilians were also brutally murdered. [2]
I consider this paragraph relevant. While not intending to clear the German forces of their various crimes, it is now generally accepted that Russian forces frequently shot or tortured captured Germans. German excesses are well known and documented, whereas Allied excesses are little known. These examples are mentioned to try to balance the black/white picture. They are documented, and such examples figure in several stories and anecdotes written by German soldiers.
I therefore suggest that this paragraph should be reinstated. Falk74 ( talk) 10:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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It doesn't matter how much historical minutiae you might know about the battle if you don't know the identities of the major combatants. Guys - please - get it right! There was no "russian" army in WW2 just like there was no "English" air force. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.245.96 ( talk) 14:15, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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Moonsund is more commonly used in English than Moonzund, thus I propose moving the page appropriately. Thoughts? Martintg ( talk) 01:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
The following comment was removed by a user:
The Russians in particular gained a reputation for not taking prisoners, shooting them out of hand or even torturing captives to death. The fighting on Saaremaa is a grim example , it is not known whether any Germans were taken prisoner at all. For instance, an officer was hung from a nearby road sign, a few Germans who just missed the last evacuation were forced to stand in the icy Baltic sea for hours, then pulled ashore and shot. [1] Civilians were also brutally murdered. [2]
I consider this paragraph relevant. While not intending to clear the German forces of their various crimes, it is now generally accepted that Russian forces frequently shot or tortured captured Germans. German excesses are well known and documented, whereas Allied excesses are little known. These examples are mentioned to try to balance the black/white picture. They are documented, and such examples figure in several stories and anecdotes written by German soldiers.
I therefore suggest that this paragraph should be reinstated. Falk74 ( talk) 10:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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File:O-34-B 500-K 1993.jpg, has been nominated for deletion at
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It doesn't matter how much historical minutiae you might know about the battle if you don't know the identities of the major combatants. Guys - please - get it right! There was no "russian" army in WW2 just like there was no "English" air force. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.245.96 ( talk) 14:15, 25 February 2015 (UTC)