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Completely redid the page, and removed the cleanup tag. It was sort of done in a big sort of wiki-edit rush; I may have made some grammatical/wiki errors. Someone should look into this. Scytheml 03:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Why does a mood ring turn your finger green? What do the colors of a mood ring mean? i agree with him
How does a mood ring on your computer work? I got a google mood ring and it changes colors and stuff, but I have no clue how it works without contact with skin. -- 24.118.1.217 23:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
the color on my mood ring stays blue, every so often it changes. other than that, it stays one color
well those usually don't work but i think it would check the temperature of you holding your mouse, so it gets readings from that
I have yet to see a computer mouse with a heat sensor so that seems doubtful. Jyuichi 00:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I had to add that, because currently as stoned, the ring was blue.
My ring fluctuates, but it is not usually one color. It is usually blue with a purple or amber pupil. Is the ring working? User:Kiriam
I think that computer mood-rings are just for comical relief. Not really working (because a mouse can't detect your temperature), but just for fun. 201.170.64.109
Im a noob, so.... i read this article 5 mins ago, now its changed Just thought id re-add the color codes. This is partially because i installed a software gadget cool jewels mood ring, linking the color code to the wiki article. I dont have an account so ill just write my name and date manually. Headphoneguy, 21:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Lists of what the colors "represent" are constantly being added to this article, and being deleted as uncited, unverifiable, or copyright violations. Please do not re-add a list unless you can provide a citable, encyclopedic source for the info (which as I see it you really can't, since the lists are unscientific and made up by the manufacturers - there is no "real" list.) Personally, it seems to me that we really can't do more than perhaps linking to offsite lists such as the howstuffworks link already cited, and letting readers go there for the info. Does anyone have any better ideas for including this info that would suit Wikipedia? Rob T Firefly ( talk) 15:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
On May 16, 2008, the "mood ring" page was reformatted to include several sub-categories as originally written, before numerous variations (consisting of a range of vandalism to simple mis-information) compromised the data.
The "Shook Book", removed in early revisions, was placed there, not as an advertisement for the book (no longer in print), but as a citation to reference the verification of the inventor and the history of the mood ring DreamBeliever2238 02:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
And it is conventional to add new talk to the bottom of the page and not the top. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 12:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC) (FIXED)
User:DreamBeliever2238 has admitted a conflict of interest in this article. To quote User talk:DreamBeliever2238:
WP:COI says: "COI edits are strongly discouraged."
SteveBaker ( talk) 13:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like this user is back at it again, on 21jan13 he removed all the well-cited information from the History section that was there before and replaced it with unsourced speculation about his father. Reverted changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.105.207.166 ( talk) 22:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
A recent edit (mercifully, swiftly reverted) added the usual nonsense color-interpretation chart - vis:
...of course it was reverted for the usual and well-established reason that no two suggested charts ever seem to be the same and we have no means to know which is 'authoritative' - and also because it's completely unsourced.
But it occurs to me that the whole concept of a 'mood ring' is really rather silly. Forget the physics explanation - let's accept the assertion that they really do change colour to match your mood according to this chart - and do a thought-experiment:
Suppose you're a guy taking a particularly drop-dead gorgeous babe out on a first date and she invites you home afterwards. You can quite easily be simultaneously extremely romantic (violet), very, very, excited (yellow) and probably just about as nervous/anxious (grey) as it's possible to be...in fact, if we're being honest, it would be unusual to feel any other way. So what is the mood ring supposed to show? We have three simultaneous yet completely different emotions - all being felt at 'off-scale' adrenaline levels - and all clearly identified with different colors in the chart. What color is the ring in this situation? Violet with yellow stripes and grey polkadots?
Or...imagine you're driving a really 'hot' sports car on an empty road at 120mph with the wind in your hair - how could you not be simultaneously happy and excited? So again...violet or yellow? The situation where you are both happy AND excited happens all the time. In fact, it's rather difficult to be excited by something that DOESN'T also make you happy.
You can rearrange the color scale (as many ring manufacturers seem to do) to put happiness and excitement on the same color - but then you are sometimes happy and romantic...or romantic and nervous...or relaxed and romantic. In fact, there are hardly any combinations of emotion that you can't somehow imagine feeling at one time or another. Hence you can't separate out any of the emotions as different colors if you can ever feel them both at the same time!
The bottom line is that humans are far too complex for emotion to be read on a simple linear scale...it's a multidimensional problem...ergo, these things can't possibly work...whether you believe in the physics or not.
SteveBaker ( talk) 04:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
94.220.246.220 ( talk) 19:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
In the article it states that "the average human skin temperature [...] is approximately 98.6 °F (37.0 °C)", which already sounds fishy, but even the linked source says that "The normal temperature of skin is about 33 °C or 91 °F." So, I don't know if I should just change the temperature values in the sentence or what. Apoyon ( talk) 13:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
ME AND MY SISTERS ALL HAD MOOD RINGS IN THE EARLY 70'S AND WE NEVER PAID MORE THAN $5.00 TO $8.00 FOR THEM. THEY WERE never $45.00 IN THOSE DAYS. MAYBE IF HALF OF YOU WERE ALIVE THEN YOU WOULD KNOW NOT TO JUST ARBITRARILY REPEAT WHAT YOU HAVE READ SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE WEB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.250.100 ( talk) 02:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I have to second this; I had one as early as '74 and they were cheap at that time. They had to come along prior to '75. I would put the date around '73 at the latest. They were fads for the average person. Any of them sold at a jewelry store for over $40 had to come along later, not earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.121.254 ( talk) 03:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Actual experiences. 108.203.149.93 ( talk) 00:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)My name is Shelby Largent. I am 67 years old. I would challenge your article about the time mood rings where first used. In 1963 we had mood rings. I am not sure when they were first invented but long before 1975. It was quite a unique thing at the time.
Shelby Largent
Below content was tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert with appropriate references. DonIago ( talk) 13:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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==Properties==
The original mood stone was a quartz crystal oval
cabochon treated with heat sensitive (
thermochromic) liquid crystal material. The mood stone ring was made of sterling silver or
vermeil (gold-gilded sterling), whereas the majority of mood rings used base metals, such as copper. Changes in peripheral blood flow (thus finger temperature) caused the liquid crystal to reflect different wavelengths of light, which change the color of the stone. The liquid crystal used in the original mood stone ring was engineered to display a range of seven distinct colors spanning a 20 °F (11 °C) temperature range. A black stone indicated cold hands. As finger temperature warmed, with more blood flowing to the extremities, the mood stone's color progressed from brown through yellow, light green, dark green and light blue to dark blue.
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Whats the history of mood rings? (for the article) Inventor? Company?
~~Ted~~ 2607:FEA8:4A2:4100:AD3B:1C68:D290:AD61 ( talk) 04:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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Completely redid the page, and removed the cleanup tag. It was sort of done in a big sort of wiki-edit rush; I may have made some grammatical/wiki errors. Someone should look into this. Scytheml 03:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Why does a mood ring turn your finger green? What do the colors of a mood ring mean? i agree with him
How does a mood ring on your computer work? I got a google mood ring and it changes colors and stuff, but I have no clue how it works without contact with skin. -- 24.118.1.217 23:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
the color on my mood ring stays blue, every so often it changes. other than that, it stays one color
well those usually don't work but i think it would check the temperature of you holding your mouse, so it gets readings from that
I have yet to see a computer mouse with a heat sensor so that seems doubtful. Jyuichi 00:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I had to add that, because currently as stoned, the ring was blue.
My ring fluctuates, but it is not usually one color. It is usually blue with a purple or amber pupil. Is the ring working? User:Kiriam
I think that computer mood-rings are just for comical relief. Not really working (because a mouse can't detect your temperature), but just for fun. 201.170.64.109
Im a noob, so.... i read this article 5 mins ago, now its changed Just thought id re-add the color codes. This is partially because i installed a software gadget cool jewels mood ring, linking the color code to the wiki article. I dont have an account so ill just write my name and date manually. Headphoneguy, 21:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Lists of what the colors "represent" are constantly being added to this article, and being deleted as uncited, unverifiable, or copyright violations. Please do not re-add a list unless you can provide a citable, encyclopedic source for the info (which as I see it you really can't, since the lists are unscientific and made up by the manufacturers - there is no "real" list.) Personally, it seems to me that we really can't do more than perhaps linking to offsite lists such as the howstuffworks link already cited, and letting readers go there for the info. Does anyone have any better ideas for including this info that would suit Wikipedia? Rob T Firefly ( talk) 15:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
On May 16, 2008, the "mood ring" page was reformatted to include several sub-categories as originally written, before numerous variations (consisting of a range of vandalism to simple mis-information) compromised the data.
The "Shook Book", removed in early revisions, was placed there, not as an advertisement for the book (no longer in print), but as a citation to reference the verification of the inventor and the history of the mood ring DreamBeliever2238 02:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
And it is conventional to add new talk to the bottom of the page and not the top. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 12:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC) (FIXED)
User:DreamBeliever2238 has admitted a conflict of interest in this article. To quote User talk:DreamBeliever2238:
WP:COI says: "COI edits are strongly discouraged."
SteveBaker ( talk) 13:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like this user is back at it again, on 21jan13 he removed all the well-cited information from the History section that was there before and replaced it with unsourced speculation about his father. Reverted changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.105.207.166 ( talk) 22:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
A recent edit (mercifully, swiftly reverted) added the usual nonsense color-interpretation chart - vis:
...of course it was reverted for the usual and well-established reason that no two suggested charts ever seem to be the same and we have no means to know which is 'authoritative' - and also because it's completely unsourced.
But it occurs to me that the whole concept of a 'mood ring' is really rather silly. Forget the physics explanation - let's accept the assertion that they really do change colour to match your mood according to this chart - and do a thought-experiment:
Suppose you're a guy taking a particularly drop-dead gorgeous babe out on a first date and she invites you home afterwards. You can quite easily be simultaneously extremely romantic (violet), very, very, excited (yellow) and probably just about as nervous/anxious (grey) as it's possible to be...in fact, if we're being honest, it would be unusual to feel any other way. So what is the mood ring supposed to show? We have three simultaneous yet completely different emotions - all being felt at 'off-scale' adrenaline levels - and all clearly identified with different colors in the chart. What color is the ring in this situation? Violet with yellow stripes and grey polkadots?
Or...imagine you're driving a really 'hot' sports car on an empty road at 120mph with the wind in your hair - how could you not be simultaneously happy and excited? So again...violet or yellow? The situation where you are both happy AND excited happens all the time. In fact, it's rather difficult to be excited by something that DOESN'T also make you happy.
You can rearrange the color scale (as many ring manufacturers seem to do) to put happiness and excitement on the same color - but then you are sometimes happy and romantic...or romantic and nervous...or relaxed and romantic. In fact, there are hardly any combinations of emotion that you can't somehow imagine feeling at one time or another. Hence you can't separate out any of the emotions as different colors if you can ever feel them both at the same time!
The bottom line is that humans are far too complex for emotion to be read on a simple linear scale...it's a multidimensional problem...ergo, these things can't possibly work...whether you believe in the physics or not.
SteveBaker ( talk) 04:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
94.220.246.220 ( talk) 19:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
In the article it states that "the average human skin temperature [...] is approximately 98.6 °F (37.0 °C)", which already sounds fishy, but even the linked source says that "The normal temperature of skin is about 33 °C or 91 °F." So, I don't know if I should just change the temperature values in the sentence or what. Apoyon ( talk) 13:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
ME AND MY SISTERS ALL HAD MOOD RINGS IN THE EARLY 70'S AND WE NEVER PAID MORE THAN $5.00 TO $8.00 FOR THEM. THEY WERE never $45.00 IN THOSE DAYS. MAYBE IF HALF OF YOU WERE ALIVE THEN YOU WOULD KNOW NOT TO JUST ARBITRARILY REPEAT WHAT YOU HAVE READ SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE WEB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.250.100 ( talk) 02:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I have to second this; I had one as early as '74 and they were cheap at that time. They had to come along prior to '75. I would put the date around '73 at the latest. They were fads for the average person. Any of them sold at a jewelry store for over $40 had to come along later, not earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.121.254 ( talk) 03:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Actual experiences. 108.203.149.93 ( talk) 00:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)My name is Shelby Largent. I am 67 years old. I would challenge your article about the time mood rings where first used. In 1963 we had mood rings. I am not sure when they were first invented but long before 1975. It was quite a unique thing at the time.
Shelby Largent
Below content was tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert with appropriate references. DonIago ( talk) 13:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Properties
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==Properties==
The original mood stone was a quartz crystal oval
cabochon treated with heat sensitive (
thermochromic) liquid crystal material. The mood stone ring was made of sterling silver or
vermeil (gold-gilded sterling), whereas the majority of mood rings used base metals, such as copper. Changes in peripheral blood flow (thus finger temperature) caused the liquid crystal to reflect different wavelengths of light, which change the color of the stone. The liquid crystal used in the original mood stone ring was engineered to display a range of seven distinct colors spanning a 20 °F (11 °C) temperature range. A black stone indicated cold hands. As finger temperature warmed, with more blood flowing to the extremities, the mood stone's color progressed from brown through yellow, light green, dark green and light blue to dark blue.
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Whats the history of mood rings? (for the article) Inventor? Company?
~~Ted~~ 2607:FEA8:4A2:4100:AD3B:1C68:D290:AD61 ( talk) 04:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)