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Does this treaty apply to all UN member states or only to the signatories? - Siyac
Meantime I checked the external link given in the article [3] - it seems there are only 19 states who signed this convention: Honduras, United States of America, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Argentina, Venezuela, Uruguay, Paraguay, Mexico, Panama, Guatemala, Brazil, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Colombia, Chile, Peru, Cuba, some of them with reserves. It seems is not a relevant convention for international law, the big majority of countries never signed it.-- MariusM 16:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Who decides officially for a particular proposed state if the criteria have been met ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.37.215.34 ( talk) 15:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
And what do the other opinions state, not just "Opinion No 1., Badinter Arbitration Committee"? — Pēters J. Vecrumba 01:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Is there a clear definition of what "territory" is under international law? Or is the matter more open to interpretation? If anyone has an answer they can back up with evidence, I'd be happy to hear it. DerekMBarnes ( talk) 02:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Furthermore, this clause effectively rules out anarchic states from existing legally.
"Anarchic state" is an oxymoron. An anarchic territory is not a state, and is not capable of entering into negotiations with other states. Any infrastructure which was implemented to do this would be... a government. By definition. -- 70.131.112.177 ( talk) 01:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I added a brief comment on article 11 of the Convention. Lacking of references about that article caused dozens of erroneous pages in wikipedia: according to the Convention, territory, population, government and capacity of relations are necessary conditions for statehood, but if a government rose from a foreign military invasion, we can't speak of a new sovereign State but only of a puppet state.-- Cusio ( talk) 16:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Surely there should be a section of Micronations, i.e. states which fulfil the requirements of the convention but aren't recognized as such? FutureDragon ( talk) 16:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC) I added the section. Feel free to upgrade it. FutureDragon ( talk) 20:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
The map of party states appears to be duplicated in the infobox and graphic in the main body of the article. Is that correct and, if so, what is the value of the duplication?-- Rpclod ( talk) 21:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
The section "criticism" doesn't seem to contain any actual criticism. I will remove the section header, letting it merge into "background". Feel free to divide it again or refactor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NisJørgensen ( talk • contribs) 20:18, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
The external link in reference 13 appears to go to a dangerous link - it was blocked by my computer's firewall after taking me to a 404 not found page. Is there an alternative source for this?
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I would like to see someone add the effects of this convention on micronations, since most use it as their proof of statehood. It is used by many micronations as evidence that they are sovereign states, yet that effect is not listed here. It is important that viewers realize this . (If anyone actually reads this, a good source to use is MicroWiki, Wikipedia's equivalent for micronations)
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Does this treaty apply to all UN member states or only to the signatories? - Siyac
Meantime I checked the external link given in the article [3] - it seems there are only 19 states who signed this convention: Honduras, United States of America, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Argentina, Venezuela, Uruguay, Paraguay, Mexico, Panama, Guatemala, Brazil, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Colombia, Chile, Peru, Cuba, some of them with reserves. It seems is not a relevant convention for international law, the big majority of countries never signed it.-- MariusM 16:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Who decides officially for a particular proposed state if the criteria have been met ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.37.215.34 ( talk) 15:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
And what do the other opinions state, not just "Opinion No 1., Badinter Arbitration Committee"? — Pēters J. Vecrumba 01:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Is there a clear definition of what "territory" is under international law? Or is the matter more open to interpretation? If anyone has an answer they can back up with evidence, I'd be happy to hear it. DerekMBarnes ( talk) 02:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Furthermore, this clause effectively rules out anarchic states from existing legally.
"Anarchic state" is an oxymoron. An anarchic territory is not a state, and is not capable of entering into negotiations with other states. Any infrastructure which was implemented to do this would be... a government. By definition. -- 70.131.112.177 ( talk) 01:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I added a brief comment on article 11 of the Convention. Lacking of references about that article caused dozens of erroneous pages in wikipedia: according to the Convention, territory, population, government and capacity of relations are necessary conditions for statehood, but if a government rose from a foreign military invasion, we can't speak of a new sovereign State but only of a puppet state.-- Cusio ( talk) 16:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Surely there should be a section of Micronations, i.e. states which fulfil the requirements of the convention but aren't recognized as such? FutureDragon ( talk) 16:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC) I added the section. Feel free to upgrade it. FutureDragon ( talk) 20:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
The map of party states appears to be duplicated in the infobox and graphic in the main body of the article. Is that correct and, if so, what is the value of the duplication?-- Rpclod ( talk) 21:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
The section "criticism" doesn't seem to contain any actual criticism. I will remove the section header, letting it merge into "background". Feel free to divide it again or refactor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NisJørgensen ( talk • contribs) 20:18, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
The external link in reference 13 appears to go to a dangerous link - it was blocked by my computer's firewall after taking me to a 404 not found page. Is there an alternative source for this?
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I would like to see someone add the effects of this convention on micronations, since most use it as their proof of statehood. It is used by many micronations as evidence that they are sovereign states, yet that effect is not listed here. It is important that viewers realize this . (If anyone actually reads this, a good source to use is MicroWiki, Wikipedia's equivalent for micronations)
Krebsjails (
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