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Rather than being just a list of peaks, passes and glaciers, this page is in desperate need of being enhanced into a proper introductory article on the whole massif. I think it should serve as an introductory overview to the entire area, and include a geographic description which much better defines it, and includes brief mention of aspects like geography/geology, tourism, conservation which are currently either overlooked or lost within articles on individual mountains, or fall outside the remit of the various Wikipedia Projects which look rather narrowly at themes such as rivers, glaciers, mountains, etc.
I have already deleted a quite a few secondary sources and 'facts' from the Mont Blanc page which relate to other peaks - especially those referring to mountain accidents and achievements which clearly took place elsewhere within the massif. Any good editor should have spotted these, although the media don't help when they so loosely refer to Mont Blanc in nearly every story about any of these mountains.
I will work through the list of lower peaks in this article, a few of which should not have been included as they are well outside the MB massif. ( Aiguilles Rouges for example). I have started drafting some text enhancements and other content, which I will start insert in the weeks ahead.
I am also a little uncomfortable about references to the Graian Alps which I do not see as having ever been clearly or properly defined and referenced, either within Wikipedia and elsewhere. Many sources suggest this range ends well south of the Mont Blanc massif, and I would suggest that the over-emphasis on this alpine name adds confusion, rather than aiding clarity - consider the contradictory statements currently in the first two paragraphs. I appreciate there has been a discussion on the extent of the Graian Alps elsewhere, but because so few few reliable texts on these mountains use the term (unless perhaps they've gleaned it from Wikipedia in the first place), I suggest reducing emphasis on it somewhat.
Either way, only once we have this article structured properly can attention then be paid to the Mont Blanc page itself, which is really quite poor considering its significance, and deserves to be brought up to GA or Featured article status (with everyone's help, I hope!). Parkywiki ( talk) 23:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated this article for Good Article status, and gather this can take some months before it is picked up by a reviewer. While we're waiting, do please either make edits or leave a note here to suggest ways you think this article could be enhanced, and I will address them. Obviously, with a mountain massif on this scale, one could expand indefinitely into every peak, glacier, sport, flower or rock that occurs there. But that would not be helpful. So what would? Is anything missing, poorly represented, or confusing? My aim is that this article could, in time, be brought to Featured Article quality and that this might then cascade down into improvements to the Mont Blanc article, too. Parkywiki ( talk) 02:31, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Just placing this here for future consideration. Nick Moyes ( talk) 21:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Rather than being just a list of peaks, passes and glaciers, this page is in desperate need of being enhanced into a proper introductory article on the whole massif. I think it should serve as an introductory overview to the entire area, and include a geographic description which much better defines it, and includes brief mention of aspects like geography/geology, tourism, conservation which are currently either overlooked or lost within articles on individual mountains, or fall outside the remit of the various Wikipedia Projects which look rather narrowly at themes such as rivers, glaciers, mountains, etc.
I have already deleted a quite a few secondary sources and 'facts' from the Mont Blanc page which relate to other peaks - especially those referring to mountain accidents and achievements which clearly took place elsewhere within the massif. Any good editor should have spotted these, although the media don't help when they so loosely refer to Mont Blanc in nearly every story about any of these mountains.
I will work through the list of lower peaks in this article, a few of which should not have been included as they are well outside the MB massif. ( Aiguilles Rouges for example). I have started drafting some text enhancements and other content, which I will start insert in the weeks ahead.
I am also a little uncomfortable about references to the Graian Alps which I do not see as having ever been clearly or properly defined and referenced, either within Wikipedia and elsewhere. Many sources suggest this range ends well south of the Mont Blanc massif, and I would suggest that the over-emphasis on this alpine name adds confusion, rather than aiding clarity - consider the contradictory statements currently in the first two paragraphs. I appreciate there has been a discussion on the extent of the Graian Alps elsewhere, but because so few few reliable texts on these mountains use the term (unless perhaps they've gleaned it from Wikipedia in the first place), I suggest reducing emphasis on it somewhat.
Either way, only once we have this article structured properly can attention then be paid to the Mont Blanc page itself, which is really quite poor considering its significance, and deserves to be brought up to GA or Featured article status (with everyone's help, I hope!). Parkywiki ( talk) 23:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated this article for Good Article status, and gather this can take some months before it is picked up by a reviewer. While we're waiting, do please either make edits or leave a note here to suggest ways you think this article could be enhanced, and I will address them. Obviously, with a mountain massif on this scale, one could expand indefinitely into every peak, glacier, sport, flower or rock that occurs there. But that would not be helpful. So what would? Is anything missing, poorly represented, or confusing? My aim is that this article could, in time, be brought to Featured Article quality and that this might then cascade down into improvements to the Mont Blanc article, too. Parkywiki ( talk) 02:31, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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I propose to take on this review and will make a detailed reading of the article shortly.
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Leaving the lead for the time being: -
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Just placing this here for future consideration. Nick Moyes ( talk) 21:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)