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I've updated it with information from the Royal Armouries monograph, which seems to be the most up to date source of information on Mons Meg. Calcinations ( talk) 22:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
OOps, missed one. I'm working off the Royal Armouries monograph, which describes the most up to date research I've seen- they even X-rayed Meg to find out how it was made, but I am not yet sure how to put footnotes into the text. Calcinations ( talk) 13:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC) Looking at the page, I am having trouble working out how to put references in, and since the first writer didn't, I don't know which bits are quoted from which sources, therefore I could re-write the entire page with references if I can only work out how. That would be much better, but I don't have access to some of the sources mentioned in the notes. So would that count as losing information or what? Calcinations ( talk) 13:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
1.It seems to be the biggest pre-18th century cannon... Maybe calibre records for firearms by date, much like the "Timeline_of_three_tallest_structures_in_the_world" could be made... And one for muzzle velocity too... 2.What's Mons Meg's muzzle velocity? Undead Herle King ( talk) 06:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Since I (And I assume millions more) saw Mon Meg firing on the battlements of the Castle to bring in 2010, I've added a wee part to the article. The Telegraph have an article on it - http://living.scotsman.com/hogmanayandthechristmasfestivals/Hogmanay-will-be-a-blast.2286348.jp
Kaenei ( talk) 00:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
And I concur http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/tna/+/http://www.mod.uk:80/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/PeopleInDefence/shannonTheCannonEdinburghsDistrictGunner.htm Brendandh ( talk) 16:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Are there any records of this weapon actually seeing any combat use, or has it turned out to be a bit of a white elephant? 62.196.17.197 ( talk) 13:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
The article quotes shot "weighing about 400 lb (180 kg)". I assume this is iron, most probably cast iron. If solid wrought iron, it should weigh closer to 1200 lb (520 kg). I calculate this from the well-known geometrical formula volume of a sphere v = 4/3*pi*r^3. Diameter = 20 inches --> radius = 10 inches --> r^3 = 1000. 1000*4/3=1333.33*pi cu. in. = 4189 cu. in. or, equivalently, 0.0686 m^3. Since cast iron weighs (depending on the specific alloy) between 6800-7800 kg per m^3, this calculates to a weight (at 2.2 lb per kg) of 1026-1178 lb for a solid cast iron ball 20 inches diameter. If plain iron,(e.g. wrought iron, a density of 0.286 lb/in^3 can be assumed, whence the 1200 lb estimate first mentioned. Not 400 lb. Jornadigan ( talk) 03:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly, there is no mention in the article of this weapon being deployed at sea, yet "Used by Royal Scots Navy" appears in the infobox. Anyone know why?-- AntientNestor ( talk) 17:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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I've updated it with information from the Royal Armouries monograph, which seems to be the most up to date source of information on Mons Meg. Calcinations ( talk) 22:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
OOps, missed one. I'm working off the Royal Armouries monograph, which describes the most up to date research I've seen- they even X-rayed Meg to find out how it was made, but I am not yet sure how to put footnotes into the text. Calcinations ( talk) 13:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC) Looking at the page, I am having trouble working out how to put references in, and since the first writer didn't, I don't know which bits are quoted from which sources, therefore I could re-write the entire page with references if I can only work out how. That would be much better, but I don't have access to some of the sources mentioned in the notes. So would that count as losing information or what? Calcinations ( talk) 13:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
1.It seems to be the biggest pre-18th century cannon... Maybe calibre records for firearms by date, much like the "Timeline_of_three_tallest_structures_in_the_world" could be made... And one for muzzle velocity too... 2.What's Mons Meg's muzzle velocity? Undead Herle King ( talk) 06:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Since I (And I assume millions more) saw Mon Meg firing on the battlements of the Castle to bring in 2010, I've added a wee part to the article. The Telegraph have an article on it - http://living.scotsman.com/hogmanayandthechristmasfestivals/Hogmanay-will-be-a-blast.2286348.jp
Kaenei ( talk) 00:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
And I concur http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/tna/+/http://www.mod.uk:80/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/PeopleInDefence/shannonTheCannonEdinburghsDistrictGunner.htm Brendandh ( talk) 16:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Are there any records of this weapon actually seeing any combat use, or has it turned out to be a bit of a white elephant? 62.196.17.197 ( talk) 13:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
The article quotes shot "weighing about 400 lb (180 kg)". I assume this is iron, most probably cast iron. If solid wrought iron, it should weigh closer to 1200 lb (520 kg). I calculate this from the well-known geometrical formula volume of a sphere v = 4/3*pi*r^3. Diameter = 20 inches --> radius = 10 inches --> r^3 = 1000. 1000*4/3=1333.33*pi cu. in. = 4189 cu. in. or, equivalently, 0.0686 m^3. Since cast iron weighs (depending on the specific alloy) between 6800-7800 kg per m^3, this calculates to a weight (at 2.2 lb per kg) of 1026-1178 lb for a solid cast iron ball 20 inches diameter. If plain iron,(e.g. wrought iron, a density of 0.286 lb/in^3 can be assumed, whence the 1200 lb estimate first mentioned. Not 400 lb. Jornadigan ( talk) 03:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly, there is no mention in the article of this weapon being deployed at sea, yet "Used by Royal Scots Navy" appears in the infobox. Anyone know why?-- AntientNestor ( talk) 17:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)