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Μοίραι would traditionally be Latinized as Moerae, and in the now more common (and allegedly more accurate) system Moirai. Moirae, though, seems totally inappropriate. It really should be one or the other (and I'd vote for the former). -- Iustinus 00:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
"The services of the temples were performed by old women who were physically misshapen, though intellectually superior persons, giving rise to the fear of witches and of the misshapen." Really? I don't think there's evidence that temple workers were misshapen, or brilliant; and at any rate fear of deformity, brilliance and witchcraft long predates Greek civ. At the very least, cite a source here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.198.230 ( talk) 17:19, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I propose to delete this claim, as it's now four years without citation. Martin Turner ( talk) 20:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Additional this, I propose deleting this section: "The Moirai were described as ugly old women, sometimes lame. They were severe, inflexible and stern. Clotho carries a spindle or a roll (the book of fate), Lachesis a staff with which she points to the horoscope on a globe, and Atropos (Aisa) a scroll, a wax tablet, a sundial, a pair of scales, or a cutting instrument. At other times the three were shown with staffs or sceptres, the symbols of dominion, and sometimes even with crowns. At the birth of each man they appeared spinning, measuring, and cutting the thread of life.[47]" Checking the reference, this links to an unsourced internet project, and appears to be describing unspecified pictures, not sourced mythology. Lachesis pointing a staff at a horoscope on a globe is anachronistic. Given that we should be able to reference everything about established figures in classical mythology, this brings down the reliability of the article, which is otherwise well-linked to primary sources. Martin Turner ( talk) 20:25, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
This article looks like it could do with some help. One of the most glaring problems is that the Moirai are primarily classical Greek figures, but all of the illustrations are post-classical. I asked at the British Museum in London if they had any representations, but there are none in their (vast) collection. I've also scoured the web for anything. Therefore, as a first step to lifting this article, does anyone know of, or can link to, an image (statue, black-figure, red-figure, engraving, anything) of the Moirai which can be reliably dated as pre-Roman? If not, does anyone have an authoritative source which says that such representations do not exist, and offers a reason why? Thank you. Martin Turner ( talk) 20:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! This is much better than what I've found so far. Martin Turner ( talk) 08:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. There is no popular culture section? Wanted to add some information about Clotho as main character and her sisters in Legends of Tomorrow, but did not find the section. ( Crisis on Infinite Earths Impacted One Legend of Tomorrow in a Major Way) IKhitron ( talk) 13:25, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Propose to have a link to "The Morrigan" when relating them to other figures from different mythologies. Not only is it also 3 women but their primary aspects are war (not relevant) and fate (very relevant). 184.15.20.247 ( talk) 10:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Μοίραι would traditionally be Latinized as Moerae, and in the now more common (and allegedly more accurate) system Moirai. Moirae, though, seems totally inappropriate. It really should be one or the other (and I'd vote for the former). -- Iustinus 00:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
"The services of the temples were performed by old women who were physically misshapen, though intellectually superior persons, giving rise to the fear of witches and of the misshapen." Really? I don't think there's evidence that temple workers were misshapen, or brilliant; and at any rate fear of deformity, brilliance and witchcraft long predates Greek civ. At the very least, cite a source here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.198.230 ( talk) 17:19, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I propose to delete this claim, as it's now four years without citation. Martin Turner ( talk) 20:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Additional this, I propose deleting this section: "The Moirai were described as ugly old women, sometimes lame. They were severe, inflexible and stern. Clotho carries a spindle or a roll (the book of fate), Lachesis a staff with which she points to the horoscope on a globe, and Atropos (Aisa) a scroll, a wax tablet, a sundial, a pair of scales, or a cutting instrument. At other times the three were shown with staffs or sceptres, the symbols of dominion, and sometimes even with crowns. At the birth of each man they appeared spinning, measuring, and cutting the thread of life.[47]" Checking the reference, this links to an unsourced internet project, and appears to be describing unspecified pictures, not sourced mythology. Lachesis pointing a staff at a horoscope on a globe is anachronistic. Given that we should be able to reference everything about established figures in classical mythology, this brings down the reliability of the article, which is otherwise well-linked to primary sources. Martin Turner ( talk) 20:25, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
This article looks like it could do with some help. One of the most glaring problems is that the Moirai are primarily classical Greek figures, but all of the illustrations are post-classical. I asked at the British Museum in London if they had any representations, but there are none in their (vast) collection. I've also scoured the web for anything. Therefore, as a first step to lifting this article, does anyone know of, or can link to, an image (statue, black-figure, red-figure, engraving, anything) of the Moirai which can be reliably dated as pre-Roman? If not, does anyone have an authoritative source which says that such representations do not exist, and offers a reason why? Thank you. Martin Turner ( talk) 20:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! This is much better than what I've found so far. Martin Turner ( talk) 08:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. There is no popular culture section? Wanted to add some information about Clotho as main character and her sisters in Legends of Tomorrow, but did not find the section. ( Crisis on Infinite Earths Impacted One Legend of Tomorrow in a Major Way) IKhitron ( talk) 13:25, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Propose to have a link to "The Morrigan" when relating them to other figures from different mythologies. Not only is it also 3 women but their primary aspects are war (not relevant) and fate (very relevant). 184.15.20.247 ( talk) 10:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)