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The last two paragraphs under the section title Functions are a direct quotation (not quoted) from the book "god is not Great," by Christopher Hitchens. At the very least, a quotation should be added, but it seems more appropriate to change/delete these paragraphs, especially since they are written in the first person. I'm not an expert on this topic, so I'll leave that for someone else. I came to this page for more information after reading the paragraph in Hitchens' book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukEucliD ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me that the article on genital modification and mutilation is appropriate as a related topic.
More information on Orthodox Judaism's view of circumcision is available here: Bris Milah circumcision and information about the ceremony is available here: Mohel circumcision - procedure of ceremony
This reference to the television show "freakshow" is totally irrelevant. It is merely a reference to a mention of the subject in a television show, in a bizarre context that does not inform and does not add anything to anybody's sum knowledge. It is not even representative of "pop culture". The show (intentionally) distorts the whole idea. While I have no problem with the inclusion of strange or unusual concepts, or even jokes, the value of this particular entry is very questionable. I move for deletion. -- Jane Q. Public 06:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I removed the trivia section, as it was overwhelming the rest of the article. The last version that had the trivia section is here, in case any items can be integrated back. Ciotog 23:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Isn't mohelims a bit redundant? I would think that if one mohel isn't enough you get two mohelim. The "s" just pluralises a plural. Would that then make four men prepared to carry out the mitzhvah? Guille 00:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
"Biblically, the infant's father is commanded to perform the circumcision himself." Someone I've talked with has disputed this. I notice there is no source for this statement. As such whomever added it could you reference where it says this? Tyciol ( talk) 23:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Sometimes the mohel performs " Metzitzah" which is when he sucks the baby's penis to remove blood. Why is this traditional and controversial aspect not mentioned? I tried to add a sentence about this but it was instantly removed. Seems like an attempt at hiding the ugly truth by those with a conflict of interest. -- 90.221.107.153 ( talk) 23:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it was just removed by someone who thought it sounded bizarre and assumed it was vandalism 86.130.193.91 ( talk) 16:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I deleted the section which just repeats a couple of jokes because it is trivia which is discouraged by Wikipedia rules. While it is not always necessary to delete trivia section in this case it was for several reasons. Policy does recommend incorporating trivia sections into articles. These jokes lead to no further understanding of the subject and thus there is really no place I can see where it should be incorporated into other sections. The jokes are very "Jewish" in nature and thus a gentile audience may not get it, violating the worldview guideline
What would make it encyclopedic if there is a reliable source stating that humor is commonly used to deflate the tension of the situation etc. Edkollin ( talk) 23:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
When I saw the section heading "Women", my first thought was "female circumcision -- yikes, I didn't think Jews did that!" I had to read the body to realize it was talking about women performing the procedure, not receiving it. I'm changing it to "Women as mohels". This comment is to explain my reasoning, in more detail than the log message allows. Erics ( talk) 17:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Some mention could be made of the fact that the Mohel figures prominently in Eastern European Jewish humor. E.g. the Mohel who had clocks and watches in his store windows, and when a goy wanted to buy a watch he had to explain that he was a Mohel not a watchmaker. -- 92.226.93.64 ( talk) 00:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
It's a practice currently on the increase, according to this article in The Atlantic (June 2015). The Telegraph (March 2015) reported that the British Royal Family (including QEII, who had Prince Charles circumcised) as well as many other non-Jewish upper-class British families have employed mohels for generations, although the practice has decreased in recent decades.
There should also be mention of how mohels are compensated, with fees ranging typically from $360-$1,000 dollars, although the price is usually not fixed and depends on what the family can afford. Many mohels will perform circumcisions for free if there is financial exigency. Could this be mentioned? Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 22:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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The last two paragraphs under the section title Functions are a direct quotation (not quoted) from the book "god is not Great," by Christopher Hitchens. At the very least, a quotation should be added, but it seems more appropriate to change/delete these paragraphs, especially since they are written in the first person. I'm not an expert on this topic, so I'll leave that for someone else. I came to this page for more information after reading the paragraph in Hitchens' book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukEucliD ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me that the article on genital modification and mutilation is appropriate as a related topic.
More information on Orthodox Judaism's view of circumcision is available here: Bris Milah circumcision and information about the ceremony is available here: Mohel circumcision - procedure of ceremony
This reference to the television show "freakshow" is totally irrelevant. It is merely a reference to a mention of the subject in a television show, in a bizarre context that does not inform and does not add anything to anybody's sum knowledge. It is not even representative of "pop culture". The show (intentionally) distorts the whole idea. While I have no problem with the inclusion of strange or unusual concepts, or even jokes, the value of this particular entry is very questionable. I move for deletion. -- Jane Q. Public 06:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I removed the trivia section, as it was overwhelming the rest of the article. The last version that had the trivia section is here, in case any items can be integrated back. Ciotog 23:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Isn't mohelims a bit redundant? I would think that if one mohel isn't enough you get two mohelim. The "s" just pluralises a plural. Would that then make four men prepared to carry out the mitzhvah? Guille 00:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
"Biblically, the infant's father is commanded to perform the circumcision himself." Someone I've talked with has disputed this. I notice there is no source for this statement. As such whomever added it could you reference where it says this? Tyciol ( talk) 23:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Sometimes the mohel performs " Metzitzah" which is when he sucks the baby's penis to remove blood. Why is this traditional and controversial aspect not mentioned? I tried to add a sentence about this but it was instantly removed. Seems like an attempt at hiding the ugly truth by those with a conflict of interest. -- 90.221.107.153 ( talk) 23:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it was just removed by someone who thought it sounded bizarre and assumed it was vandalism 86.130.193.91 ( talk) 16:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I deleted the section which just repeats a couple of jokes because it is trivia which is discouraged by Wikipedia rules. While it is not always necessary to delete trivia section in this case it was for several reasons. Policy does recommend incorporating trivia sections into articles. These jokes lead to no further understanding of the subject and thus there is really no place I can see where it should be incorporated into other sections. The jokes are very "Jewish" in nature and thus a gentile audience may not get it, violating the worldview guideline
What would make it encyclopedic if there is a reliable source stating that humor is commonly used to deflate the tension of the situation etc. Edkollin ( talk) 23:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
When I saw the section heading "Women", my first thought was "female circumcision -- yikes, I didn't think Jews did that!" I had to read the body to realize it was talking about women performing the procedure, not receiving it. I'm changing it to "Women as mohels". This comment is to explain my reasoning, in more detail than the log message allows. Erics ( talk) 17:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Some mention could be made of the fact that the Mohel figures prominently in Eastern European Jewish humor. E.g. the Mohel who had clocks and watches in his store windows, and when a goy wanted to buy a watch he had to explain that he was a Mohel not a watchmaker. -- 92.226.93.64 ( talk) 00:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
It's a practice currently on the increase, according to this article in The Atlantic (June 2015). The Telegraph (March 2015) reported that the British Royal Family (including QEII, who had Prince Charles circumcised) as well as many other non-Jewish upper-class British families have employed mohels for generations, although the practice has decreased in recent decades.
There should also be mention of how mohels are compensated, with fees ranging typically from $360-$1,000 dollars, although the price is usually not fixed and depends on what the family can afford. Many mohels will perform circumcisions for free if there is financial exigency. Could this be mentioned? Vesuvius Dogg ( talk) 22:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)