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The interrogation log Time made available describes a female "Sergeant A" as the lead investigator during the 4:00 to 12:00 shift. I wonder if it was Sergeant Jeanette Aracho-Burkart, the interrogator who is known to have worn skimpy clothes, and to have reached inside her pants and faked smearing detainees' faces with red liquid she said was her menses. -- Geo Swan 05:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I changed the characterization of the large roundup of foreigners in post-invasion Afghanistan, and the Pakistan "tribal areas", from "foreign fighters" to simply "foreigners".
The Denbeaux study definitely demonstrated that the Guantanamo detainees largely weren't "fighters".
No doubt whomever characterized the Guantanamo detainees as "foreign fighters", as if this were a proven fact, didn't realize it was POV -- but it is IMO -- highly so. -- Geo Swan 03:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Die the Times publication of the log lead to any criminal investigations? What is described clearly breaks the Geneva Conventions and US law. 88.73.110.3 12:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous IP made what I regard as questionable edits. The role of the wikipedia is not to serve as a hagiography.
They changed extrajudicial detention to simply detention. Extrajudicial detention is both accurate and neutral.
Calling the CCR a "a radical left wing organisation" is editorializing. Calling the CCR "a radical left wing organisation with ties to George Soros" -- is a tie to George Soros supposed to justify calling the organization "radical left wing organization"? Well, it is WP:OR.
There is an open question as to whether a large number of captives were tortured. But there are three captives that the DoD has acknowledged were subjected to extreme interrogation methods that practically everyone but the Bush administraton acknowledges were tortured. KSM and Abu Zubaydah are two of them. And Muhammad al Qahtani was the third. The article said "torture" prior to the IP's edits. The IP put "alleged torture". Since the DoD acknowledged using extended interrogation methods on him, I will change it to that wording. Geo Swan ( talk) 23:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
A large portion of this article seems to be more or less a dump of primary sources---verbatim transcripts, quotes, timelines, etc. From an encyclopedia article (a tertiary source) I would've expected a more concise summary, based mainly on secondary and other tertiary sources, with only occasional quotes of the primary sources where particularly useful to the reader. As it stands it's kind of hard to read, especially for a nonspecialist. -- Delirium ( talk) 23:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Reads more like a minute-by-minute update on a news site than an encyclopedic reference. Definitely needs a reorganisation, if not an entire rewrite. 137.44.1.174 ( talk) 15:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
The image that i have removed from the article violates the basic rules of Wikipedia. It is the own work of a Wikipedia editor who took a primary source combined it with other sources and then interpreted them. This is a violation of WP:OR. The fact that these are mostly primary sources has also further problems as it does not comply with the policies of BLP's of living people. So i see this topic as taken to the talk page and the image should not be re-included until consensus has been reached. IQinn ( talk) 10:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
I see the need to move this article to a better name. I suggest to move this page to Mohammed al Qahtani. The new name is based on these reliable sources:
I strongly believe that the from me suggested new name Mohammed al Qahtani is an improvement and should be performed as soon as possible. Any objections? IQinn ( talk) 07:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
This edit removed considerable material, justified by the edit summary "deleted erroneous politically motivated information".
This material was properly referenced to WP:RS. If the contributor who made this excision thinks they have concerns that are justified by policy I would recommend offering them on this talk page.
Cheers! Geo Swan ( talk) 00:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 17:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Mohammed al Qahtani → Mohammed al-Qahtani — Correct name with the dash, see Template:9-11 hijackers also, showing all the other names with the dash. JohnCengiz77 ( talk) 20:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Regards. JohnCengiz77 ( talk) 08:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Please correct the interwiki to French : fr:Mohammed al-Kahtani
Thanks
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The interrogation log Time made available describes a female "Sergeant A" as the lead investigator during the 4:00 to 12:00 shift. I wonder if it was Sergeant Jeanette Aracho-Burkart, the interrogator who is known to have worn skimpy clothes, and to have reached inside her pants and faked smearing detainees' faces with red liquid she said was her menses. -- Geo Swan 05:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I changed the characterization of the large roundup of foreigners in post-invasion Afghanistan, and the Pakistan "tribal areas", from "foreign fighters" to simply "foreigners".
The Denbeaux study definitely demonstrated that the Guantanamo detainees largely weren't "fighters".
No doubt whomever characterized the Guantanamo detainees as "foreign fighters", as if this were a proven fact, didn't realize it was POV -- but it is IMO -- highly so. -- Geo Swan 03:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Die the Times publication of the log lead to any criminal investigations? What is described clearly breaks the Geneva Conventions and US law. 88.73.110.3 12:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous IP made what I regard as questionable edits. The role of the wikipedia is not to serve as a hagiography.
They changed extrajudicial detention to simply detention. Extrajudicial detention is both accurate and neutral.
Calling the CCR a "a radical left wing organisation" is editorializing. Calling the CCR "a radical left wing organisation with ties to George Soros" -- is a tie to George Soros supposed to justify calling the organization "radical left wing organization"? Well, it is WP:OR.
There is an open question as to whether a large number of captives were tortured. But there are three captives that the DoD has acknowledged were subjected to extreme interrogation methods that practically everyone but the Bush administraton acknowledges were tortured. KSM and Abu Zubaydah are two of them. And Muhammad al Qahtani was the third. The article said "torture" prior to the IP's edits. The IP put "alleged torture". Since the DoD acknowledged using extended interrogation methods on him, I will change it to that wording. Geo Swan ( talk) 23:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
A large portion of this article seems to be more or less a dump of primary sources---verbatim transcripts, quotes, timelines, etc. From an encyclopedia article (a tertiary source) I would've expected a more concise summary, based mainly on secondary and other tertiary sources, with only occasional quotes of the primary sources where particularly useful to the reader. As it stands it's kind of hard to read, especially for a nonspecialist. -- Delirium ( talk) 23:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Reads more like a minute-by-minute update on a news site than an encyclopedic reference. Definitely needs a reorganisation, if not an entire rewrite. 137.44.1.174 ( talk) 15:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
The image that i have removed from the article violates the basic rules of Wikipedia. It is the own work of a Wikipedia editor who took a primary source combined it with other sources and then interpreted them. This is a violation of WP:OR. The fact that these are mostly primary sources has also further problems as it does not comply with the policies of BLP's of living people. So i see this topic as taken to the talk page and the image should not be re-included until consensus has been reached. IQinn ( talk) 10:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
I see the need to move this article to a better name. I suggest to move this page to Mohammed al Qahtani. The new name is based on these reliable sources:
I strongly believe that the from me suggested new name Mohammed al Qahtani is an improvement and should be performed as soon as possible. Any objections? IQinn ( talk) 07:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
This edit removed considerable material, justified by the edit summary "deleted erroneous politically motivated information".
This material was properly referenced to WP:RS. If the contributor who made this excision thinks they have concerns that are justified by policy I would recommend offering them on this talk page.
Cheers! Geo Swan ( talk) 00:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 17:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Mohammed al Qahtani → Mohammed al-Qahtani — Correct name with the dash, see Template:9-11 hijackers also, showing all the other names with the dash. JohnCengiz77 ( talk) 20:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Regards. JohnCengiz77 ( talk) 08:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Please correct the interwiki to French : fr:Mohammed al-Kahtani
Thanks
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