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I'm going to be revising this article from the current sources up. Any help or input is welcome. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 16:13, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
this is an article in the atlantic. Sorry dont have a moment to form it up so nicely. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/02/imagine-the-worst-possible-scenario-why-a-guantanamo-prosecutor-withdrew-from-the-case/273013/3/ ( Martin | talk • contribs 18:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC))
Slahi's memoirs, which he wrote in Gitmo after he relented to the torture and said he would cooperate, will be released by the end of this month. The article could be vastly improved by then and I'm going to do as much as I can. If anyone else wants to chip in and/or discuss on this Talk page, please speak up. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 15:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
The section title is not ideal, as the material covers a time period rather than a location. I will wait for others to join the discussion on how best to outline the material and name the sections best.
Parked paragraph:
I can't find a source for the degree in 1995 and the info on Canada is not very relevant. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 03:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
This section needs the most work. The Schmidt-Furlow Report, was a preliminary internal Army investigation. It has been superseded by the Senate Armed Forces Committee report. There are also several reports by human rights groups that document Slahi's case. But, this is good information. It can live here until someone wants to use it. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 04:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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July 3, 2003 | 21 |
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July 17, 2003 | 24 |
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July 20, 2003 | 24-25 |
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August 2, 2003 | 26 |
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August 2, 2003 | 25 |
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Summer 2003 | 22 |
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Summer 2003 | 22-23 |
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This section is not relevant enough for the article. It is also based on one source, moved to the end for reference. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 04:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Appeal for the release of evidence through the Canadian Justice System Mohamedou Slahi and Ahcene Zemiri appealed through the Canadian Justice system for the release of classified documents about them, as both were former Canadian residents. Both men had been interviewed by Canadian security officials before leaving Canada for Afghanistan. Their lawyers argued that the notes from the Canadian interviews would have been relied on by the United States when its agents built their own dossiers against the two men. The attorneys requested the Canadian evidence in order to make the case for the men's freedom in the US justice system.
In February 2009 Justice Edmond Blanchard ruled that since the men were not Canadian citizens and their connection to Canada was "tenuous", the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms did not apply to them. Slahi is married to a Canadian, and had once been granted Permanent Resident status in Canada. The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled in another case that the Canadian government should publish classified documents which the Americans had shared about the Canadian citizen Omar Khadr, who was released from Guantanamo and returned to Canada in 2012.
Nathan Whitling, one of the detainees' Canadian lawyers, predicted that their United States habeas corpus cases will be heard before a planned appeal of Blanchard's ruling takes place.
"Gitmo detainees lose bid to access Canadian intelligence information". CBC News. Canadian Press. February 16, 2009. Retrieved August 12, 2014.
The lead is too long right now. But I am going to concentrate on getting the article body finished first. Use this space to discuss what should remain in the lead. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 22:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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The lede section remains too long, despite this being identified as an issue in 2015. I found the order very hard to follow with the torture and Habeas Corpus case being broken out into separate sections. There is no discussion of why the District Court never held any hearings after the Court of Appeals decision in 2010. Also there's no clear connection to the Joint Review Task Force section which discusses what happened to him between 2010 and his release in 2016. Mztourist ( talk) 04:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I have removed from the lead the claim that Salahi turned himself in on Mauritanian authorities, along with claims that the subsequent questioning related to the millennial plot. Both of these points are not supported by the source.
Due to the possible significance of such an act, I wanted to bring attention to this in case there is other sourcing that was not correctly added, alternatively this may be an attempt at vandalism to alter the narrative.
I'd also note that this detail is not included anywhere else in the article.
In any case, this is a significant detail so its inclusion or omission should be taken very seriously.
-- Thesowismine ( talk) 03:58, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
This instagram post on Mohamedou's page seems to indicate his passport was reinstated. https://www.instagram.com/p/Clouzm6td6I/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Can't find another source but this may need updating. TorontoBio ( talk) 02:47, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
The current version of this article contains this phrase: "Mr. Slahi's other two houseguests were future September 11 hijackers." Can we add which ones? 76.190.213.189 ( talk) 03:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
In order to be more properly encyclopedic, shouldn't we add a mention of the polygraph tests Mohamedou Ould Slahi took (and, apparently, passed)? 76.190.213.189 ( talk) 04:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
To add to this article: information about Mohamedou Ould Slahi's marriages. 76.190.213.189 ( talk) 05:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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I'm going to be revising this article from the current sources up. Any help or input is welcome. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 16:13, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
this is an article in the atlantic. Sorry dont have a moment to form it up so nicely. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/02/imagine-the-worst-possible-scenario-why-a-guantanamo-prosecutor-withdrew-from-the-case/273013/3/ ( Martin | talk • contribs 18:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC))
Slahi's memoirs, which he wrote in Gitmo after he relented to the torture and said he would cooperate, will be released by the end of this month. The article could be vastly improved by then and I'm going to do as much as I can. If anyone else wants to chip in and/or discuss on this Talk page, please speak up. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 15:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
The section title is not ideal, as the material covers a time period rather than a location. I will wait for others to join the discussion on how best to outline the material and name the sections best.
Parked paragraph:
I can't find a source for the degree in 1995 and the info on Canada is not very relevant. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 03:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
This section needs the most work. The Schmidt-Furlow Report, was a preliminary internal Army investigation. It has been superseded by the Senate Armed Forces Committee report. There are also several reports by human rights groups that document Slahi's case. But, this is good information. It can live here until someone wants to use it. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 04:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
date | page number |
notes |
July 3, 2003 | 21 |
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July 17, 2003 | 24 |
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July 20, 2003 | 24-25 |
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August 2, 2003 | 26 |
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August 2, 2003 | 25 |
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Summer 2003 | 22 |
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Summer 2003 | 22-23 |
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August 2003 | 23 |
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August 2, 2003 | 23 |
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This section is not relevant enough for the article. It is also based on one source, moved to the end for reference. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 04:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Appeal for the release of evidence through the Canadian Justice System Mohamedou Slahi and Ahcene Zemiri appealed through the Canadian Justice system for the release of classified documents about them, as both were former Canadian residents. Both men had been interviewed by Canadian security officials before leaving Canada for Afghanistan. Their lawyers argued that the notes from the Canadian interviews would have been relied on by the United States when its agents built their own dossiers against the two men. The attorneys requested the Canadian evidence in order to make the case for the men's freedom in the US justice system.
In February 2009 Justice Edmond Blanchard ruled that since the men were not Canadian citizens and their connection to Canada was "tenuous", the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms did not apply to them. Slahi is married to a Canadian, and had once been granted Permanent Resident status in Canada. The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled in another case that the Canadian government should publish classified documents which the Americans had shared about the Canadian citizen Omar Khadr, who was released from Guantanamo and returned to Canada in 2012.
Nathan Whitling, one of the detainees' Canadian lawyers, predicted that their United States habeas corpus cases will be heard before a planned appeal of Blanchard's ruling takes place.
"Gitmo detainees lose bid to access Canadian intelligence information". CBC News. Canadian Press. February 16, 2009. Retrieved August 12, 2014.
The lead is too long right now. But I am going to concentrate on getting the article body finished first. Use this space to discuss what should remain in the lead. Mnnlaxer ( talk) 22:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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The lede section remains too long, despite this being identified as an issue in 2015. I found the order very hard to follow with the torture and Habeas Corpus case being broken out into separate sections. There is no discussion of why the District Court never held any hearings after the Court of Appeals decision in 2010. Also there's no clear connection to the Joint Review Task Force section which discusses what happened to him between 2010 and his release in 2016. Mztourist ( talk) 04:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I have removed from the lead the claim that Salahi turned himself in on Mauritanian authorities, along with claims that the subsequent questioning related to the millennial plot. Both of these points are not supported by the source.
Due to the possible significance of such an act, I wanted to bring attention to this in case there is other sourcing that was not correctly added, alternatively this may be an attempt at vandalism to alter the narrative.
I'd also note that this detail is not included anywhere else in the article.
In any case, this is a significant detail so its inclusion or omission should be taken very seriously.
-- Thesowismine ( talk) 03:58, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
This instagram post on Mohamedou's page seems to indicate his passport was reinstated. https://www.instagram.com/p/Clouzm6td6I/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Can't find another source but this may need updating. TorontoBio ( talk) 02:47, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
The current version of this article contains this phrase: "Mr. Slahi's other two houseguests were future September 11 hijackers." Can we add which ones? 76.190.213.189 ( talk) 03:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
In order to be more properly encyclopedic, shouldn't we add a mention of the polygraph tests Mohamedou Ould Slahi took (and, apparently, passed)? 76.190.213.189 ( talk) 04:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
To add to this article: information about Mohamedou Ould Slahi's marriages. 76.190.213.189 ( talk) 05:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)