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I believe this "scandal" should be removed. This occurred in his role as Professor Richard Alpert at Harvard before he became Ram Dass. I don't believe there are any scandals after he became Ram Dass, so this is misleading. Skyerise ( talk) 12:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
It is relevant in listing modern gurus that Bishnu Charan Gosh (contemporary of BKS Iyengar) and probably also Buddha Bose be included. BC Gosh’s guru was his brother, Yogananda (contemporary of Krishnamacharya), listed this article in acknowledged gurus. Gosh and Bose toured Europe and U.S. in the late 1930s in the first broad introduction of 84 hatha yoga asanas in physical practice outside India. BC Gosh was in turn cited by B Choudhury as his guru (a contested point). While Choudhury listed a specific sequence of postures in “Bikram’s Beginning Yoga” that sequence was derived from the foundations of Yogananda, BC Gosh, and Buddha Bose in Calcutta from 1916-1950. The lineage is best cited as Gosh Yoga or Calcutta Yoga. The source reference for the foregoing events can be found in the publication, “Calcutta Yoga”, by Jerome Armstrong, 2018: Webstrong LLC. ConanBC ( talk) 04:40, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure that you're not missing the 'acknowledged' here. Rather than arguing about history and philosophy, the criterion on Wikipedia is whether there are multiple reliable sources, in this case that all say that he was a "yoga guru". Since that wasn't what he was primarily known for the matter is in doubt. That people who later did yoga called him a guru is with respect not the same thing, as they may have seen him as a personal, physical culture, philosophical, or spiritual guru --- or some unevaluated combination of those --- rather than specifically a "yoga-guru" [which is all we are concerned with here. I did look for sources that said that specifically and did not find anything usable. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 20:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello editors of this article, especially ChiswickChap. I see you have done a lot of work researching Hatha yoga and writing this and many other articles about yoga. I see that you also know some Sanskrit. My question is why there is no mention of any ISKCON gurus ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISKCON_guru_system) any vaishnav gurus, or any Shankara gurus? Is it because by the word "yoga" you are limiting yourselves to the modern definition of "yoga" as simply gymnastics, thus ignoring the original definition as connection with God? (Please excuse my newbie mistakes, this reply may already appear somewhere else!) MinuteSoul ( talk) 01:41, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Sarkar was recently added, but his article does not in fact even claim that he was a "yoga guru", let alone provide multiple reliable sources to prove that claim. I've accordingly hidden his entry from here for now, awaiting suitable evidence. I had a trawl with Google for "Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar" + "yoga guru" and found nothing usable. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 18:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
You just placed at the very beginning of this page with your references, that some think Kriyananda is a yoga guru. This is very misleading. If you use the highly respected Swami Vivekananda as a guide - it clears up any confusion. He abused women sexually and emotionally as he pretended to be a celibate monk while using women for sex in his Ananda communities. Kriyananda let go of his swami vows to get married. At some point he decided he wanted to take the monastic vows again and no one would initiate him in their order so he created his very own order and initiated himself. So as not to mislead people the Vivekananda quote needs to stay there. Red Rose 13 ( talk) 19:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
I am researching and found one that actually mentioned Kriyananda - Nelson's illustrated guide to religions: a comprehensive introduction to the religions of the world- this book referred to him as a swami who founded Ananda, no mention of guru. I will keep you updated as I do my research. Red Rose 13 ( talk) 20:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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I believe this "scandal" should be removed. This occurred in his role as Professor Richard Alpert at Harvard before he became Ram Dass. I don't believe there are any scandals after he became Ram Dass, so this is misleading. Skyerise ( talk) 12:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
It is relevant in listing modern gurus that Bishnu Charan Gosh (contemporary of BKS Iyengar) and probably also Buddha Bose be included. BC Gosh’s guru was his brother, Yogananda (contemporary of Krishnamacharya), listed this article in acknowledged gurus. Gosh and Bose toured Europe and U.S. in the late 1930s in the first broad introduction of 84 hatha yoga asanas in physical practice outside India. BC Gosh was in turn cited by B Choudhury as his guru (a contested point). While Choudhury listed a specific sequence of postures in “Bikram’s Beginning Yoga” that sequence was derived from the foundations of Yogananda, BC Gosh, and Buddha Bose in Calcutta from 1916-1950. The lineage is best cited as Gosh Yoga or Calcutta Yoga. The source reference for the foregoing events can be found in the publication, “Calcutta Yoga”, by Jerome Armstrong, 2018: Webstrong LLC. ConanBC ( talk) 04:40, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure that you're not missing the 'acknowledged' here. Rather than arguing about history and philosophy, the criterion on Wikipedia is whether there are multiple reliable sources, in this case that all say that he was a "yoga guru". Since that wasn't what he was primarily known for the matter is in doubt. That people who later did yoga called him a guru is with respect not the same thing, as they may have seen him as a personal, physical culture, philosophical, or spiritual guru --- or some unevaluated combination of those --- rather than specifically a "yoga-guru" [which is all we are concerned with here. I did look for sources that said that specifically and did not find anything usable. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 20:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello editors of this article, especially ChiswickChap. I see you have done a lot of work researching Hatha yoga and writing this and many other articles about yoga. I see that you also know some Sanskrit. My question is why there is no mention of any ISKCON gurus ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISKCON_guru_system) any vaishnav gurus, or any Shankara gurus? Is it because by the word "yoga" you are limiting yourselves to the modern definition of "yoga" as simply gymnastics, thus ignoring the original definition as connection with God? (Please excuse my newbie mistakes, this reply may already appear somewhere else!) MinuteSoul ( talk) 01:41, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Sarkar was recently added, but his article does not in fact even claim that he was a "yoga guru", let alone provide multiple reliable sources to prove that claim. I've accordingly hidden his entry from here for now, awaiting suitable evidence. I had a trawl with Google for "Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar" + "yoga guru" and found nothing usable. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 18:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
You just placed at the very beginning of this page with your references, that some think Kriyananda is a yoga guru. This is very misleading. If you use the highly respected Swami Vivekananda as a guide - it clears up any confusion. He abused women sexually and emotionally as he pretended to be a celibate monk while using women for sex in his Ananda communities. Kriyananda let go of his swami vows to get married. At some point he decided he wanted to take the monastic vows again and no one would initiate him in their order so he created his very own order and initiated himself. So as not to mislead people the Vivekananda quote needs to stay there. Red Rose 13 ( talk) 19:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
I am researching and found one that actually mentioned Kriyananda - Nelson's illustrated guide to religions: a comprehensive introduction to the religions of the world- this book referred to him as a swami who founded Ananda, no mention of guru. I will keep you updated as I do my research. Red Rose 13 ( talk) 20:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)