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500 million mobile phone subcribers.
'subcribers' should be subscribers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.204.225 ( talk) 20:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Since when has "were consisted" been English? Maelli ( talk) 11:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
okay so i really dont get why the dont let you have cell phones in school 12-Jan-2009: The article "mobile phone" is a major target-name for vandalism (similar to "search engine"). To limit the complexities of embedded vandalism, any target-name articles should be kept to a brief overview of the subject, which can be easily reverted & checked when vandalism is detected. For indepth coverage, spin-off articles should be linked as "see-also" entries, which can contain more detail without hiding frequent vandalism. Much like the total chaos of the search-engine articles, the current article " mobile phone" has become hideously hacked with numerous embedded problems by the stampede of vandalism, buried in a mass of detailed text. Although many people attempt to revert vandalism, it is easy to become overwhelmed trying to merge 3 weeks of changes with large sections of hacked text. Consequently, most broad-scale vandalism in large articles is fought by simply removing the whole sections of hacked text, period.
Instead, the article "mobile phone" should perhaps be converted, from a full detailed article, to become a short overview, just introducing the subject, with links to larger articles as low-profile links found by serious readers. Hacking of the article "mobile phone" could continue, endlessly, but be more easily reverted by containing less text to scan & verify. Meanwhile, other spin-off articles, under less targeted names, could contain the massive details about the various cell-phone topics. With less (daily) vandalism to the large articles, then hackings can be more easily reverted, without the problem of cross-merging for all the other rapid vandalism. Simply put: Wikipedia can have large articles, and Wikipedia can have multi-vandalized articles, but Wikipedia cannot cope with large, multi-vandalized articles. The two must be kept separate: a vandalized target-name should be limited to containing a small article, not redirected into a large article. - Wikid77 ( talk) 04:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
12-Jan-2009: I have converted the name " cell phone" (from being a February-2008 redirection to "mobile phone") into being an overview article with see-also links to article "mobile phone". The term "cell phone" has been a target-name for vandalism. However, the term "mobile phone" has been accessed by Wikipedia readers 10x more often (read 5,000 times per day) than "cell phone" (read 500 times per day). It might be the case that the name "mobile phone" is actually tied to more vandalism, in which case, the article roles should be reversed. Perhaps, article "mobile phone" should be the small overview article, catching all the daily vandalism, and "cell phone" or some other name should be the large article that contains the many details where vandalism gets buried after the numerous edits. It should only take a few weeks, of watching the edit-histories, to see whether "cell phone" or "mobile phone" gets more of the daily hackings/reverts. - Wikid77 ( talk) 04:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
12-Jan-2009: There are some "rules of physics" about how people read or edit articles. The popular titles are the ones most likely to get vandalized: many obscure articles have gone 4 years, never hacked, while popular titles often get botched daily. People don't go to see-also links to vandalize, (relatively few people even read the see-also links), instead, they hack the main article. Also, those top tag-boxes (you know, like "This article needs cleanup") just don't work. Over 28,000 people can view an article, which desperately boxes its plea for cleanup, and those 28,000 people won't: instead, they just have to skip past that annoying top box to read what they want. It won't work to tag-box the article as "Cleanup vandalized text" because it won't happen, and the best prevention is to keep a popular title (like "mobile phone") as a short article, and link to specialist sub-articles which have all the numerous details. Constructing a large article, under a popular title, is courting disaster, it's like building an even taller " Tower of Babel" which will fall into a more confusing hacked article, just as "mobile phone" became during December 2008. - Wikid77 ( talk) 04:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
The notice at the top of the article reads: "Cell phone" redirects here. For the movie, see Cell Phone (film).
Please consider updating the information since the redirect was moved to a review article.
Also, if there is an excessive vandalism problem that is making editing difficult, have the article semi-protected by involving an administrator.
Hope this helps! ~ All Is One ~ ( talk) 23:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
The article largely deals with mobile telephony and not a "mobile phone" or a "cell phone" (which is the same today). I suggest article move to "Mobile telephony". The Handset sectioin would be moved to phone article then.-- Kozuch ( talk) 09:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Wikid77 above took it on themselves to take the redirect that was at cell phone and turn it into a separate article, apparently because of concerns about vandalism. Quite frankly, this is ridiculous, since this is a much better quality article for what seems to be a synonymous term. The articles should be merged, as they were way back in 2005, and a redirect created at cell phone once more. If there are technical topics (telephony, cellular networks, etc.) that need to be split out or amplified, fine, but there needs to be one great article on the ubiquitous consumer device, for the sake of the readers. regards, -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 06:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Disagree with both of you, see Talk:Cell phone#Cell-phone article as overview. Inclusively, Vitall, you are NOT supposed to act before a consensus is reached. Some of us have conveyed that mobile phone should be merged to cell phone per WP:COMMONNAMES. Don't pull a stunt like that so soon ... Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 15:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
There should be a link for the Laws surrounding the use of a cell/mobile phone while driving. Many states are adopting laws that restrict speaking on a phone or texting while driving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.189.77 ( talk) 19:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
In most countries it is already illegal to talk on your mobile phone while driving. There is no need to specifically track Americas progress on this issue.
( 00Quick00 ( talk) 14:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC))
who thinks cell phones are bad for you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.15.42 ( talk) 20:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
nope but too much use of a cell maybe. Swimmerfreak94 ( talk) 19:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
More and more phones are being designed with projection capabilities; this looks to be the next function that will become common place in devices after the camera phone boom. Surely this should be mentioned in the article. An example for citation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13UzjyTcSuQ
Peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 12:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I have been unable to find any Wikipedia information on the penetration of different mobile phone technologies into the major markets. It seems to me this would be especially useful data when it is about new technologies or new feature sets where data on growth rates could help influence purchasing decisions. For example, how much of the overall US mobile phone market does the iPhone have? What about the new Google open Gphone? What about other standard 2nd- or 3rd-generation phone technologies?
Does anyone know of where in Wikipedia such information might be found? ...or even what category one would look in? N2e ( talk) 19:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to get more "traffic" on the page I'm currently working on so I have added a brief introduction and a link in order to do so on "Mobile Phone Novels". I'm not sure if this post will stay, but I think that mobile phone users should be aware of such a neat feature on their phone such as novel writing on cell phones. Let me know what you guys think.-- Kat081685 ( talk) 18:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, sorry about that. I see your point. Therefore, I posted my the topic again WITH citation this time. Also, I added factual information. Maybe if you have any ideas for me, you could help me so my stuff doesn't get deleted. I would really appreciate it. Check out the "Mobile Phone Novel" site too if you have time.
Handphone isn't standard English. It's bootleg English used in Southeast Asia, mostly Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and also used in Korean ( Konglish). In the konglish article it also mentions its from Singapore English. These are countries that don't use standard English or English isn't their first language. The linked source is also from the Bali times, and Indonesia doesn't even use English as a native language. Why cite an article from a country where English isn't the standard language and just because they used tee word 'handphone' in it?
Should we even include non standard English words like "handphone" into this article on the English wikipedia? I suggest it be removed or not be listed first because people who don't know English well will be more encouraged to use it since it's listed first. I am going to list it last since it's not standard English, then you guys can decided whether to just delete it all together, otherwise we would have to list other bootleg English words from other countries as well in the 'also known as' portion. Bluesoju ( talk) 09:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Through vandalism and multiple edits, the words "short" and "long" have been swapped many times in the opening sentence, with no real consensus, even for non-vandal contributions.
Cell phones, arguably, are intrinsically short range: that's the entire reason they are supported by a network of cell phone towers. Hairhorn ( talk) 03:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
There are many brands types and sizes of phones and also many things on this page i dont understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.93.48 ( talk • contribs)
Can anyone advise what the "working current" is in the UK for mobile phones. I have been asked to provide the answer to this question and am having difficulties finding the response? Thanks Julia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.52.9 ( talk) 15:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Please remove the text "(several media reports erroneously reported this as the mini-USB)" from the power supply section. It's digerssing and doesn't really add anything to this section but clutter. 89.139.47.52 ( talk) 22:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
since i can't change the citation needed thing then can someone else http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Camera-phones-noise-photo-Congress,news-3371.html Girtheawesome ( talk) 01:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
In the article it was written as a fact that new phones have this feature. I didn't believe that should be included in the article though and I removed it, since said bill has not been passed, I suppose the proposition of the bill could be included but it should be clear that it is not yet law. Iloveyourfaceman ( talk) 23:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
I feel like the current blurb for Usage doesn't really give a good idea of how people use cell phones, but rather an obscure niche factoid. Anyone agree? Alex Klotz ( talk) 14:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
"The cell phone novel is the first literary genre to emerge from the cellular age via text messaging to a website that collects the novels as a whole.[18] In virtual online computer games, readers can put themselves into first person in the story. Cell phone novels create a personal space for each individual reader. Paul Levinson, in Information on the Move (2004), says "...nowadays, a writer can write just about as easily, anywhere, as a reader can read" and they are "not only personal but portable"."
I would like to see information on transmission power and frequencies. This type of technical information is routinely listed for electronic devices. JosephCampisi ( talk) 16:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The market share pie chart seems to be based on the number of units sold, which could be misleading giving the wide range of unit prices. e.g. Apple is 6th by volume but 3rd by sales value according to the reference. This does not give sales values for all the manufacturers though. The article could be improved by showing market shares by sales value. Recent Runes ( talk) 10:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
In the controversies section, "A conflict-free source of tantalum are mines at..." should read, "Conflict-free sources of tantalum are mines at..."
I would like to add the following link to the Further reading section: http://www.losquaderno.net/Issues.html Thematic issue on 'Connected & People'
There is a growing body of evidence of an increased risk of brain tumors on the same side of the head for long-term users of cell phones, and especially those who start using cell phones as children. An international conference in Washington, DC in Sept 2009 had researchers from around the world presenting their findings. While long-term studies are needed, at least a few more sentences about potential risks are needed to keep this article balanced. DoctorDM ( talk) 14:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.40.0 ( talk) 18:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Mobile phone's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "gsmworld":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 10 July 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
This is clearly not a hoax, just a stub I am working on expanding. You can find it a lot in reality. Pink cloudy sky ( talk) 18:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the use of a secret cell phone is a real phenomenon, but why not simply detail this in the mobile phone article? Is this really important enough to merit its own article? Stile4aly ( talk) 18:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
In August, I performed a selective merge to the mobile phone article as stated above. Since that time there has only been a single substantial edit to the article, and no further discussion. I believe the information contained in this article is sufficiently covered in the mobile phone article. If there are no objections, I will create the redirect within the next few days. Stile4aly ( talk) 23:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request ( Two editors disagree on whether the article should be redirected to the Mobile Phone article "Uses" section, to where a selective merge of the content was performed in August. 00:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)): |
I am responding to a third opinion request for this page. I have made no previous edits on Secret cell phone and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. |
The article mobile phone is presently 56K in size. Per WP:SIZERULE, there is not a drastic need to spinout the present article, therefore additional reasoning as to why a merge may have been suggested. Presently only two of the references used in the article have secret cell phones as the primary subject of the article, therefore the notability of the article's subject maybe called into question.— RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 01:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC) |
sir please explain me the working of mobile phones using radio waves. coz i have an innovative idea about recharging of mobile phone batteries using the radio wave connections available to the mobile.and please also explain me that whether the radio waves can be converted into D.c electrical energy if possible please explain me with the concepts and accessories reqd for converting it. hope to hear from u soon please send all the vital information to my mail id prabumitu@gmail.com please assist me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.191.107 ( talk) 09:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
People under the age of 17 (or maybe it is 18 or 21, I forgot) are not allowed to drive and use a cell phone in the St. Louis Metropolitan Area. They passed this law a few months ago, I heard about it at school in government class, the day it was passed.-- 24.171.1.195 ( talk) 00:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
According to DisplaySearch, mobile phones and mobile phone panel shipments last quarter and forecast report that mobile phone panel shipments going through the bottom of the first quarter of 2009, after the next shipments have grown up in the second quarter and six 10 million to reach 300 million, compared 30% growth the previous quarter, and to grow 3% from a year earlier. While Western Europe and North America, the number of mobile phone subscribers in communication systems has been saturated in 2009, and less than 10% of the annual rate;, but emerging markets such as China or India has taken over driving the market growth, but these areas are mainly in mobile communication systems or as GSM-based, rather than 3G. http://www.elifekey.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.87.163.7 ( talk) 02:43, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Once again Wikipedia is attacked by british bias. In America no one calls the mobile phone, So over 300 million people know them as Cell Phones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Repiceman89 ( talk • contribs) 17:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Caller-Pays Cellular needs to redirect to a specific section in the article that actually discusses that topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.125.165 ( talk) 23:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.168.104.24 ( talk) 07:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Is it necessary to note that Coca Cola is an alternative power source for mobile phones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renault555 ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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The article starts by implying that all mobile phones are cellular. They're not. Later, the article discusses non-cellular mobile phones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.92.117 ( talk) 01:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
hi just wanna know whether long distance calls consumes more amount of battery.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.22.103.82 ( talk) 09:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Please fix grammar in "One of the newest 3G technologies to implemented is High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA)."
change it to "One of the newest 3G technologies to be implemented is High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA).", or to "One of the newest 3G technologies that has been implemented is High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA)." 207.161.252.243 ( talk) 03:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the history section has grown too long on this page especially as there is a perfectly good main article. This page should really have a brief summary of the history (maybe two or three paras) and put all the other content into the main history article. This will then help focus the reader on other aspects of the mobile phone. I'll start to have a go in bits. Shout if you think it's the wrong thing to do. ChrisUK ( talk) 07:22, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Please add to Further Reading:
Chenxinghan (
talk) 21:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Done
Spitfire19 (
Talk) 21:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I would like to see some changes in the 6.2 schools section of this article. As noted in the Florida Educational Leadership article supporting cellphones in the schools, there are strong arguements FOR the inclusion of cellphones in the classroom, and an increasing number of Web 2.0 tools to support this use. In many schools, the discussion has been settled in favor of cell phone use, and the schools have moved on to structured cellphone inservices.
Within handset features section there is a list of things all cellphones have in common. The first one states the following:
"A SIM card which allows the phone user access to the particular mobile phone operator that they have a subscription with."
This is however misleading as TDMA and CDMA phones do not use SIM cards but instead use ESN/MEID in order to identify the phone and help it access the mobile phone operator. By stating all phones have SIM cards it then implies that only GSM technology is being used with all mobile phones. This line should be clarified to state the following:
"A SIM card, ESN or MEID that allows the phone user to access the particular mobile phone operator that they have a subscription with."
-- Spanishyoshi ( talk) 06:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
There needs to be additional information within this section in order to distinguish different technologies being used. The way this section is written seems to talk only about GSM technology and makes this entire article sound as if it's written only for European users as GSM is the only technology used across Europe. There is one small paragraph that talks about phones that do not use a SIM card but since it is included within this section, and is embedded within the article, so it does not explain other technologies used throughout the world. This article seems biased towards Europe and does not sufficiently (or at all) cover technologies used in Asia and North America.
I would suggest have two sections in order to explain SIM cards for GSM based phones and ESN/MEID used with CDMA based phones. This will then clearly identify the actual components of all cellphones throughout the world and help clarify what parts of the world use each technology. In this entire article, CDMA is only mentioned twice but no reference to the phones components is made. Please link the CDMA articles to this page in order to properly explain cellphone components.
-- Spanishyoshi ( talk) 06:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
The following line should be removed and/or updated.
"In the US, this type of service competition does not exist because some of the major Service Providers do not offer Pay-As-You-Go services. [Needs Pay-As-You-Go references, rumored T-Mobile, Verizon provide one, AT&T does not as of 12/2008]"
All major service providers in the US have pay-as-you-go services. However only T-Mobile and AT&T have SIM only services available while Verizon and Sprint only sell SIM cards to subscribers with global quad-band phones since all of their pay-as-you-go phones are only CDMA as they do not operate GSM technology domestically.
I am unable to provide citation since I recently worked for a major US cellphone provider for several years and would not want to bias this information, but this information was readily discussed internally and can be verified by visiting each of the major providers websites typically titled as Prepaid Service (as it is referred to here in the US). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanishyoshi ( talk • contribs) 07:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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500 million mobile phone subcribers.
'subcribers' should be subscribers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.204.225 ( talk) 20:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Since when has "were consisted" been English? Maelli ( talk) 11:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
okay so i really dont get why the dont let you have cell phones in school 12-Jan-2009: The article "mobile phone" is a major target-name for vandalism (similar to "search engine"). To limit the complexities of embedded vandalism, any target-name articles should be kept to a brief overview of the subject, which can be easily reverted & checked when vandalism is detected. For indepth coverage, spin-off articles should be linked as "see-also" entries, which can contain more detail without hiding frequent vandalism. Much like the total chaos of the search-engine articles, the current article " mobile phone" has become hideously hacked with numerous embedded problems by the stampede of vandalism, buried in a mass of detailed text. Although many people attempt to revert vandalism, it is easy to become overwhelmed trying to merge 3 weeks of changes with large sections of hacked text. Consequently, most broad-scale vandalism in large articles is fought by simply removing the whole sections of hacked text, period.
Instead, the article "mobile phone" should perhaps be converted, from a full detailed article, to become a short overview, just introducing the subject, with links to larger articles as low-profile links found by serious readers. Hacking of the article "mobile phone" could continue, endlessly, but be more easily reverted by containing less text to scan & verify. Meanwhile, other spin-off articles, under less targeted names, could contain the massive details about the various cell-phone topics. With less (daily) vandalism to the large articles, then hackings can be more easily reverted, without the problem of cross-merging for all the other rapid vandalism. Simply put: Wikipedia can have large articles, and Wikipedia can have multi-vandalized articles, but Wikipedia cannot cope with large, multi-vandalized articles. The two must be kept separate: a vandalized target-name should be limited to containing a small article, not redirected into a large article. - Wikid77 ( talk) 04:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
12-Jan-2009: I have converted the name " cell phone" (from being a February-2008 redirection to "mobile phone") into being an overview article with see-also links to article "mobile phone". The term "cell phone" has been a target-name for vandalism. However, the term "mobile phone" has been accessed by Wikipedia readers 10x more often (read 5,000 times per day) than "cell phone" (read 500 times per day). It might be the case that the name "mobile phone" is actually tied to more vandalism, in which case, the article roles should be reversed. Perhaps, article "mobile phone" should be the small overview article, catching all the daily vandalism, and "cell phone" or some other name should be the large article that contains the many details where vandalism gets buried after the numerous edits. It should only take a few weeks, of watching the edit-histories, to see whether "cell phone" or "mobile phone" gets more of the daily hackings/reverts. - Wikid77 ( talk) 04:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
12-Jan-2009: There are some "rules of physics" about how people read or edit articles. The popular titles are the ones most likely to get vandalized: many obscure articles have gone 4 years, never hacked, while popular titles often get botched daily. People don't go to see-also links to vandalize, (relatively few people even read the see-also links), instead, they hack the main article. Also, those top tag-boxes (you know, like "This article needs cleanup") just don't work. Over 28,000 people can view an article, which desperately boxes its plea for cleanup, and those 28,000 people won't: instead, they just have to skip past that annoying top box to read what they want. It won't work to tag-box the article as "Cleanup vandalized text" because it won't happen, and the best prevention is to keep a popular title (like "mobile phone") as a short article, and link to specialist sub-articles which have all the numerous details. Constructing a large article, under a popular title, is courting disaster, it's like building an even taller " Tower of Babel" which will fall into a more confusing hacked article, just as "mobile phone" became during December 2008. - Wikid77 ( talk) 04:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
The notice at the top of the article reads: "Cell phone" redirects here. For the movie, see Cell Phone (film).
Please consider updating the information since the redirect was moved to a review article.
Also, if there is an excessive vandalism problem that is making editing difficult, have the article semi-protected by involving an administrator.
Hope this helps! ~ All Is One ~ ( talk) 23:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
The article largely deals with mobile telephony and not a "mobile phone" or a "cell phone" (which is the same today). I suggest article move to "Mobile telephony". The Handset sectioin would be moved to phone article then.-- Kozuch ( talk) 09:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Wikid77 above took it on themselves to take the redirect that was at cell phone and turn it into a separate article, apparently because of concerns about vandalism. Quite frankly, this is ridiculous, since this is a much better quality article for what seems to be a synonymous term. The articles should be merged, as they were way back in 2005, and a redirect created at cell phone once more. If there are technical topics (telephony, cellular networks, etc.) that need to be split out or amplified, fine, but there needs to be one great article on the ubiquitous consumer device, for the sake of the readers. regards, -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 06:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Disagree with both of you, see Talk:Cell phone#Cell-phone article as overview. Inclusively, Vitall, you are NOT supposed to act before a consensus is reached. Some of us have conveyed that mobile phone should be merged to cell phone per WP:COMMONNAMES. Don't pull a stunt like that so soon ... Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 15:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
There should be a link for the Laws surrounding the use of a cell/mobile phone while driving. Many states are adopting laws that restrict speaking on a phone or texting while driving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.189.77 ( talk) 19:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
In most countries it is already illegal to talk on your mobile phone while driving. There is no need to specifically track Americas progress on this issue.
( 00Quick00 ( talk) 14:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC))
who thinks cell phones are bad for you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.15.42 ( talk) 20:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
nope but too much use of a cell maybe. Swimmerfreak94 ( talk) 19:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
More and more phones are being designed with projection capabilities; this looks to be the next function that will become common place in devices after the camera phone boom. Surely this should be mentioned in the article. An example for citation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13UzjyTcSuQ
Peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 12:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I have been unable to find any Wikipedia information on the penetration of different mobile phone technologies into the major markets. It seems to me this would be especially useful data when it is about new technologies or new feature sets where data on growth rates could help influence purchasing decisions. For example, how much of the overall US mobile phone market does the iPhone have? What about the new Google open Gphone? What about other standard 2nd- or 3rd-generation phone technologies?
Does anyone know of where in Wikipedia such information might be found? ...or even what category one would look in? N2e ( talk) 19:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to get more "traffic" on the page I'm currently working on so I have added a brief introduction and a link in order to do so on "Mobile Phone Novels". I'm not sure if this post will stay, but I think that mobile phone users should be aware of such a neat feature on their phone such as novel writing on cell phones. Let me know what you guys think.-- Kat081685 ( talk) 18:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, sorry about that. I see your point. Therefore, I posted my the topic again WITH citation this time. Also, I added factual information. Maybe if you have any ideas for me, you could help me so my stuff doesn't get deleted. I would really appreciate it. Check out the "Mobile Phone Novel" site too if you have time.
Handphone isn't standard English. It's bootleg English used in Southeast Asia, mostly Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and also used in Korean ( Konglish). In the konglish article it also mentions its from Singapore English. These are countries that don't use standard English or English isn't their first language. The linked source is also from the Bali times, and Indonesia doesn't even use English as a native language. Why cite an article from a country where English isn't the standard language and just because they used tee word 'handphone' in it?
Should we even include non standard English words like "handphone" into this article on the English wikipedia? I suggest it be removed or not be listed first because people who don't know English well will be more encouraged to use it since it's listed first. I am going to list it last since it's not standard English, then you guys can decided whether to just delete it all together, otherwise we would have to list other bootleg English words from other countries as well in the 'also known as' portion. Bluesoju ( talk) 09:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Through vandalism and multiple edits, the words "short" and "long" have been swapped many times in the opening sentence, with no real consensus, even for non-vandal contributions.
Cell phones, arguably, are intrinsically short range: that's the entire reason they are supported by a network of cell phone towers. Hairhorn ( talk) 03:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
There are many brands types and sizes of phones and also many things on this page i dont understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.93.48 ( talk • contribs)
Can anyone advise what the "working current" is in the UK for mobile phones. I have been asked to provide the answer to this question and am having difficulties finding the response? Thanks Julia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.52.9 ( talk) 15:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Please remove the text "(several media reports erroneously reported this as the mini-USB)" from the power supply section. It's digerssing and doesn't really add anything to this section but clutter. 89.139.47.52 ( talk) 22:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
since i can't change the citation needed thing then can someone else http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Camera-phones-noise-photo-Congress,news-3371.html Girtheawesome ( talk) 01:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
In the article it was written as a fact that new phones have this feature. I didn't believe that should be included in the article though and I removed it, since said bill has not been passed, I suppose the proposition of the bill could be included but it should be clear that it is not yet law. Iloveyourfaceman ( talk) 23:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
I feel like the current blurb for Usage doesn't really give a good idea of how people use cell phones, but rather an obscure niche factoid. Anyone agree? Alex Klotz ( talk) 14:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
"The cell phone novel is the first literary genre to emerge from the cellular age via text messaging to a website that collects the novels as a whole.[18] In virtual online computer games, readers can put themselves into first person in the story. Cell phone novels create a personal space for each individual reader. Paul Levinson, in Information on the Move (2004), says "...nowadays, a writer can write just about as easily, anywhere, as a reader can read" and they are "not only personal but portable"."
I would like to see information on transmission power and frequencies. This type of technical information is routinely listed for electronic devices. JosephCampisi ( talk) 16:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The market share pie chart seems to be based on the number of units sold, which could be misleading giving the wide range of unit prices. e.g. Apple is 6th by volume but 3rd by sales value according to the reference. This does not give sales values for all the manufacturers though. The article could be improved by showing market shares by sales value. Recent Runes ( talk) 10:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
In the controversies section, "A conflict-free source of tantalum are mines at..." should read, "Conflict-free sources of tantalum are mines at..."
I would like to add the following link to the Further reading section: http://www.losquaderno.net/Issues.html Thematic issue on 'Connected & People'
There is a growing body of evidence of an increased risk of brain tumors on the same side of the head for long-term users of cell phones, and especially those who start using cell phones as children. An international conference in Washington, DC in Sept 2009 had researchers from around the world presenting their findings. While long-term studies are needed, at least a few more sentences about potential risks are needed to keep this article balanced. DoctorDM ( talk) 14:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.40.0 ( talk) 18:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Mobile phone's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "gsmworld":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 10 July 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
This is clearly not a hoax, just a stub I am working on expanding. You can find it a lot in reality. Pink cloudy sky ( talk) 18:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the use of a secret cell phone is a real phenomenon, but why not simply detail this in the mobile phone article? Is this really important enough to merit its own article? Stile4aly ( talk) 18:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
In August, I performed a selective merge to the mobile phone article as stated above. Since that time there has only been a single substantial edit to the article, and no further discussion. I believe the information contained in this article is sufficiently covered in the mobile phone article. If there are no objections, I will create the redirect within the next few days. Stile4aly ( talk) 23:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request ( Two editors disagree on whether the article should be redirected to the Mobile Phone article "Uses" section, to where a selective merge of the content was performed in August. 00:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)): |
I am responding to a third opinion request for this page. I have made no previous edits on Secret cell phone and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. |
The article mobile phone is presently 56K in size. Per WP:SIZERULE, there is not a drastic need to spinout the present article, therefore additional reasoning as to why a merge may have been suggested. Presently only two of the references used in the article have secret cell phones as the primary subject of the article, therefore the notability of the article's subject maybe called into question.— RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 01:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC) |
sir please explain me the working of mobile phones using radio waves. coz i have an innovative idea about recharging of mobile phone batteries using the radio wave connections available to the mobile.and please also explain me that whether the radio waves can be converted into D.c electrical energy if possible please explain me with the concepts and accessories reqd for converting it. hope to hear from u soon please send all the vital information to my mail id prabumitu@gmail.com please assist me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.191.107 ( talk) 09:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
People under the age of 17 (or maybe it is 18 or 21, I forgot) are not allowed to drive and use a cell phone in the St. Louis Metropolitan Area. They passed this law a few months ago, I heard about it at school in government class, the day it was passed.-- 24.171.1.195 ( talk) 00:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
According to DisplaySearch, mobile phones and mobile phone panel shipments last quarter and forecast report that mobile phone panel shipments going through the bottom of the first quarter of 2009, after the next shipments have grown up in the second quarter and six 10 million to reach 300 million, compared 30% growth the previous quarter, and to grow 3% from a year earlier. While Western Europe and North America, the number of mobile phone subscribers in communication systems has been saturated in 2009, and less than 10% of the annual rate;, but emerging markets such as China or India has taken over driving the market growth, but these areas are mainly in mobile communication systems or as GSM-based, rather than 3G. http://www.elifekey.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.87.163.7 ( talk) 02:43, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Once again Wikipedia is attacked by british bias. In America no one calls the mobile phone, So over 300 million people know them as Cell Phones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Repiceman89 ( talk • contribs) 17:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Caller-Pays Cellular needs to redirect to a specific section in the article that actually discusses that topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.125.165 ( talk) 23:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.168.104.24 ( talk) 07:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Is it necessary to note that Coca Cola is an alternative power source for mobile phones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renault555 ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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The article starts by implying that all mobile phones are cellular. They're not. Later, the article discusses non-cellular mobile phones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.92.117 ( talk) 01:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
hi just wanna know whether long distance calls consumes more amount of battery.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.22.103.82 ( talk) 09:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Please fix grammar in "One of the newest 3G technologies to implemented is High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA)."
change it to "One of the newest 3G technologies to be implemented is High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA).", or to "One of the newest 3G technologies that has been implemented is High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA)." 207.161.252.243 ( talk) 03:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the history section has grown too long on this page especially as there is a perfectly good main article. This page should really have a brief summary of the history (maybe two or three paras) and put all the other content into the main history article. This will then help focus the reader on other aspects of the mobile phone. I'll start to have a go in bits. Shout if you think it's the wrong thing to do. ChrisUK ( talk) 07:22, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Please add to Further Reading:
Chenxinghan (
talk) 21:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Done
Spitfire19 (
Talk) 21:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I would like to see some changes in the 6.2 schools section of this article. As noted in the Florida Educational Leadership article supporting cellphones in the schools, there are strong arguements FOR the inclusion of cellphones in the classroom, and an increasing number of Web 2.0 tools to support this use. In many schools, the discussion has been settled in favor of cell phone use, and the schools have moved on to structured cellphone inservices.
Within handset features section there is a list of things all cellphones have in common. The first one states the following:
"A SIM card which allows the phone user access to the particular mobile phone operator that they have a subscription with."
This is however misleading as TDMA and CDMA phones do not use SIM cards but instead use ESN/MEID in order to identify the phone and help it access the mobile phone operator. By stating all phones have SIM cards it then implies that only GSM technology is being used with all mobile phones. This line should be clarified to state the following:
"A SIM card, ESN or MEID that allows the phone user to access the particular mobile phone operator that they have a subscription with."
-- Spanishyoshi ( talk) 06:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
There needs to be additional information within this section in order to distinguish different technologies being used. The way this section is written seems to talk only about GSM technology and makes this entire article sound as if it's written only for European users as GSM is the only technology used across Europe. There is one small paragraph that talks about phones that do not use a SIM card but since it is included within this section, and is embedded within the article, so it does not explain other technologies used throughout the world. This article seems biased towards Europe and does not sufficiently (or at all) cover technologies used in Asia and North America.
I would suggest have two sections in order to explain SIM cards for GSM based phones and ESN/MEID used with CDMA based phones. This will then clearly identify the actual components of all cellphones throughout the world and help clarify what parts of the world use each technology. In this entire article, CDMA is only mentioned twice but no reference to the phones components is made. Please link the CDMA articles to this page in order to properly explain cellphone components.
-- Spanishyoshi ( talk) 06:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
The following line should be removed and/or updated.
"In the US, this type of service competition does not exist because some of the major Service Providers do not offer Pay-As-You-Go services. [Needs Pay-As-You-Go references, rumored T-Mobile, Verizon provide one, AT&T does not as of 12/2008]"
All major service providers in the US have pay-as-you-go services. However only T-Mobile and AT&T have SIM only services available while Verizon and Sprint only sell SIM cards to subscribers with global quad-band phones since all of their pay-as-you-go phones are only CDMA as they do not operate GSM technology domestically.
I am unable to provide citation since I recently worked for a major US cellphone provider for several years and would not want to bias this information, but this information was readily discussed internally and can be verified by visiting each of the major providers websites typically titled as Prepaid Service (as it is referred to here in the US). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanishyoshi ( talk • contribs) 07:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)