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Request for a map showing where they live, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.2.158.119 ( talk) 20:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
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1. ↑ Galanova, Mira (2017-03-01). "Lush heartlands of Nicaragua's Miskito people spark deadly land disputes". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
2. ↑ Robles, Frances (2016-10-16). "Nicaragua Dispute Over Indigenous Land Erupts in Wave of Killings". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
3. ↑ Galanova, Mira (2017-03-01). "Lush heartlands of Nicaragua's Miskito people spark deadly land disputes". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
4. ↑ Robles, Frances (2016-10-16). "Nicaragua Dispute Over Indigenous Land Erupts in Wave of Killings". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
5. ↑ "Miskito | people". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2017-04-03.
6. ↑ "An Overview of the Miskito Natives | A Journey Through Nicaragua 2015". sites.dartmouth.edu. Retrieved 2017-04-03.
7. ↑ "Miskito Indians of Honduras Finally Granted Over 1 Million Acres of Traditional Land". First Peoples Worldwide. 2013-09-24. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
8. ↑ "Honduras's gift to indigenous Miskito people". Retrieved 2017-04-09.
9. ↑ "Mískito". Ethnologue. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
10. 1 2 Decker, Ken (1998). "A Report on the English-Lexifier Creole of Nicaragua, also known as Miskito Coast Creole, with special reference to Bluefields and the Corn Islands" (PDF). Summer Institute of Linguistics.
11. ↑ Blair Stiffler, David (1981). "Music of the Miskito Indians of Honduras & Nicaragua" (PDF). Ethnic Folkways Records.
12. 1 2 Jamieson, Mark (2010-01-01). "A journey into symbolic disorder: Miskitu reactions to Mestizo Catholic ritual in Nicaragua". Ethnography. 11 (3): 409–424.
13. ↑ Dennis, Philip A.; Olien, Michael D. (1984-01-01). "Kingship among the Miskito". American Ethnologist. 11 (4): 718–737.
14. ↑ "Miskito Legends, Myths, and Traditional Indian Stories (Miskitu)". www.native-languages.org. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
15. ↑ "Miskito facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Miskito". www.encyclopedia.com. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
Brimo1014 ( talk) 19:47, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Looks like a thorough and neutral article, and well-written! I think it's all clear and straightforward, both within sections and overall (logical flow of topics, demarcated subsections). Edultz ( talk) 23:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
I really appreciate that there is a small section about the Miskito language. It looks like the list of rulers is currently in need of citation. Could you find a source to verify the information? This is an extremely long article and is bordering on the upper limits of the recommended character length for a Wikipedia article. It might be nice to comb through and make sure nothing is really redundant or unnecessary. The structure of the article, however, seems sound, and you did a good job of maintaining a neutral tone. Jminteal ( talk) 04:18, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
There is a article on Mosquito Coast that takes up similar subjects./ 213.67.152.54 14:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
The first part of the article says that they were absorbed into Honduras in 1894, but the second part of the article talks about their battles to remain separate from Nicaragua - I know they cross over the border - but this part of the article makes little sense and needs to be tweaked a bit.
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12:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
In the upper part of the article, there's stated that the first confirmed king was Jeremy I 1687, but in the history section of the article, king Ovoman is mentioned to have met Charles I, who died 1649. Can someone sort out this contradiction..? Nilzzon 00:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You're right, there are serious contradictions in this article. Honduras in the first part should probably read Nicaragua, since most other articles, especially Mosquito coast, have them falling to Nicaragua in 1894. The part about Jeremy being the first recorded king seems just plain wrong, in light of his predecessor meeting the King of England. In case anyone was wondering why all the sudden attention, this article was just picked as WP:TOTW and several of us translators are now trying to make some sense of it in various other languages! Cheers, ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 02:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
As a Nicaraguan, let me try to clear this up. The original Miskito Kingdom was located partly in Honduras and partly in Nicaragua, its capital was in the Nicaraguan side. The Nicaraguan military eventually conquered the area. Part of the land (Cabo Gracias a Dios) was later ceded to the Hondurans.
I can't find anything whatsoever in the other articles on the History of Nicaragua to back up this assertion. Does it need to be cited, perhaps? ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 18:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Please leave infoboxes and See also links sections intact, as they were put in these articles for a reason. Thanks for contributing constructively in future. // Big Adamsky 11:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
The whole timeline seems wrong, compressed. The Miskito were allied with British, French, and Dutch pirates in the 17th century and as part of this alliance, carried out raids on the Honduran Spanish settlements. They also provided a haven for escaped enslaved africans long before the Garifuna were relocated to Honduras. Rsheptak 01:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The lead states that: "It is thought by historians that the Miskito sought a British identity ; indeed, European dress was popular among the Miskito, and the Miskito kings even had English names." Despite this lacking source, how is one suppose to conclude that because natives wear European dress they "seek a British identity"? What does that means, precisely? Is using an English name necessarily the sign of wanting to become English? And what is the signification of this "assimilation" to European culture from the Miskito's point of view? That is, how did they conceived this specific "British identity"? I doubt that they thought of it in the same way as a British did. This statement, although not necessarily false, needs explanation & sources; as it is, it seems just another sign of ethnocentrism. Or am I completely mistaken? Tazmaniacs 14:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I found this interesting article on sickness amoung the Miskitos, i think it would be a nice sub section addition to the article. Nicaragua’s Crazy Sickness
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
This paragraph is inaccurate:
"The new Sandinista regime established health clinics, schools and projects supporting agricultural development, while Miskito youths were engaged in the armed forces. Others were given access to education. The creation of Comités de Defensa Sandinista (CDS) also lead to an extension of the state in these regions. The Miskitos, who had been subject to pervasive racism before, were assimilated by the Sandinistas to the exploited classes, granting them a new dignity."
It does not mention that the Sandinista army attacked Miskitos along the Rio Coco in 1980, leading many Miskito to flee to refugee camps in Honduras and some, such as Brooklyn Rivera and Stedman Fagoth, to organize armed resistance to the Sandinistas. Rivera, who later reached an accomodation with the Sandinistas, explained this by saying, "Nearly half of our villages have been destroyed by Nicaraguan bombing or they were burned to the ground by Nicaraguan military, and more than one thousand of our civilians and Indian warriors have been killed." http://www.cwis.org/fwdp/Americas/nicwar.txt. It was the attacks on Miskito living in traditional villages that created the resistance to the Sandinistas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaintes ( talk • contribs) 23:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Why would somebody bring Miskito slaves to Europe? -- Error ( talk) 21:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I think he was also a Miskito. According to some sources, his group initially supported the Sandinistas and it's clashes with other sandinist groups was the reason for the subsequent support of the miskitos for the contras. But i'm not sure i got it right. Anyway, Hooker and his group seem notable to me for this article.-- Severino ( talk) 10:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
The article only shows info about the Sandinistas repressing the Miskitos and some Miskitos joining the Contras -- but it's well documented by Human Rights Watch and the Catholic Church human rights reports of the time that some Contra groups attacked Miskito communities, involving especially bloody abuses. 96.246.39.61 ( talk) 04:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Here are some things that could be added or specified further
Economy material is fascinating.-- Carwil ( talk) 03:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
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Request for a map showing where they live, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.2.158.119 ( talk) 20:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available
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1. ↑ Galanova, Mira (2017-03-01). "Lush heartlands of Nicaragua's Miskito people spark deadly land disputes". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
2. ↑ Robles, Frances (2016-10-16). "Nicaragua Dispute Over Indigenous Land Erupts in Wave of Killings". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
3. ↑ Galanova, Mira (2017-03-01). "Lush heartlands of Nicaragua's Miskito people spark deadly land disputes". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
4. ↑ Robles, Frances (2016-10-16). "Nicaragua Dispute Over Indigenous Land Erupts in Wave of Killings". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2017-03-22.
5. ↑ "Miskito | people". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2017-04-03.
6. ↑ "An Overview of the Miskito Natives | A Journey Through Nicaragua 2015". sites.dartmouth.edu. Retrieved 2017-04-03.
7. ↑ "Miskito Indians of Honduras Finally Granted Over 1 Million Acres of Traditional Land". First Peoples Worldwide. 2013-09-24. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
8. ↑ "Honduras's gift to indigenous Miskito people". Retrieved 2017-04-09.
9. ↑ "Mískito". Ethnologue. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
10. 1 2 Decker, Ken (1998). "A Report on the English-Lexifier Creole of Nicaragua, also known as Miskito Coast Creole, with special reference to Bluefields and the Corn Islands" (PDF). Summer Institute of Linguistics.
11. ↑ Blair Stiffler, David (1981). "Music of the Miskito Indians of Honduras & Nicaragua" (PDF). Ethnic Folkways Records.
12. 1 2 Jamieson, Mark (2010-01-01). "A journey into symbolic disorder: Miskitu reactions to Mestizo Catholic ritual in Nicaragua". Ethnography. 11 (3): 409–424.
13. ↑ Dennis, Philip A.; Olien, Michael D. (1984-01-01). "Kingship among the Miskito". American Ethnologist. 11 (4): 718–737.
14. ↑ "Miskito Legends, Myths, and Traditional Indian Stories (Miskitu)". www.native-languages.org. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
15. ↑ "Miskito facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Miskito". www.encyclopedia.com. Retrieved 2017-04-09.
Brimo1014 ( talk) 19:47, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Looks like a thorough and neutral article, and well-written! I think it's all clear and straightforward, both within sections and overall (logical flow of topics, demarcated subsections). Edultz ( talk) 23:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
I really appreciate that there is a small section about the Miskito language. It looks like the list of rulers is currently in need of citation. Could you find a source to verify the information? This is an extremely long article and is bordering on the upper limits of the recommended character length for a Wikipedia article. It might be nice to comb through and make sure nothing is really redundant or unnecessary. The structure of the article, however, seems sound, and you did a good job of maintaining a neutral tone. Jminteal ( talk) 04:18, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
There is a article on Mosquito Coast that takes up similar subjects./ 213.67.152.54 14:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
The first part of the article says that they were absorbed into Honduras in 1894, but the second part of the article talks about their battles to remain separate from Nicaragua - I know they cross over the border - but this part of the article makes little sense and needs to be tweaked a bit.
ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ -
(waarom? jus'b'coz!)
12:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
In the upper part of the article, there's stated that the first confirmed king was Jeremy I 1687, but in the history section of the article, king Ovoman is mentioned to have met Charles I, who died 1649. Can someone sort out this contradiction..? Nilzzon 00:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You're right, there are serious contradictions in this article. Honduras in the first part should probably read Nicaragua, since most other articles, especially Mosquito coast, have them falling to Nicaragua in 1894. The part about Jeremy being the first recorded king seems just plain wrong, in light of his predecessor meeting the King of England. In case anyone was wondering why all the sudden attention, this article was just picked as WP:TOTW and several of us translators are now trying to make some sense of it in various other languages! Cheers, ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 02:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
As a Nicaraguan, let me try to clear this up. The original Miskito Kingdom was located partly in Honduras and partly in Nicaragua, its capital was in the Nicaraguan side. The Nicaraguan military eventually conquered the area. Part of the land (Cabo Gracias a Dios) was later ceded to the Hondurans.
I can't find anything whatsoever in the other articles on the History of Nicaragua to back up this assertion. Does it need to be cited, perhaps? ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 18:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Please leave infoboxes and See also links sections intact, as they were put in these articles for a reason. Thanks for contributing constructively in future. // Big Adamsky 11:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
The whole timeline seems wrong, compressed. The Miskito were allied with British, French, and Dutch pirates in the 17th century and as part of this alliance, carried out raids on the Honduran Spanish settlements. They also provided a haven for escaped enslaved africans long before the Garifuna were relocated to Honduras. Rsheptak 01:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The lead states that: "It is thought by historians that the Miskito sought a British identity ; indeed, European dress was popular among the Miskito, and the Miskito kings even had English names." Despite this lacking source, how is one suppose to conclude that because natives wear European dress they "seek a British identity"? What does that means, precisely? Is using an English name necessarily the sign of wanting to become English? And what is the signification of this "assimilation" to European culture from the Miskito's point of view? That is, how did they conceived this specific "British identity"? I doubt that they thought of it in the same way as a British did. This statement, although not necessarily false, needs explanation & sources; as it is, it seems just another sign of ethnocentrism. Or am I completely mistaken? Tazmaniacs 14:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I found this interesting article on sickness amoung the Miskitos, i think it would be a nice sub section addition to the article. Nicaragua’s Crazy Sickness
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
This paragraph is inaccurate:
"The new Sandinista regime established health clinics, schools and projects supporting agricultural development, while Miskito youths were engaged in the armed forces. Others were given access to education. The creation of Comités de Defensa Sandinista (CDS) also lead to an extension of the state in these regions. The Miskitos, who had been subject to pervasive racism before, were assimilated by the Sandinistas to the exploited classes, granting them a new dignity."
It does not mention that the Sandinista army attacked Miskitos along the Rio Coco in 1980, leading many Miskito to flee to refugee camps in Honduras and some, such as Brooklyn Rivera and Stedman Fagoth, to organize armed resistance to the Sandinistas. Rivera, who later reached an accomodation with the Sandinistas, explained this by saying, "Nearly half of our villages have been destroyed by Nicaraguan bombing or they were burned to the ground by Nicaraguan military, and more than one thousand of our civilians and Indian warriors have been killed." http://www.cwis.org/fwdp/Americas/nicwar.txt. It was the attacks on Miskito living in traditional villages that created the resistance to the Sandinistas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaintes ( talk • contribs) 23:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Why would somebody bring Miskito slaves to Europe? -- Error ( talk) 21:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I think he was also a Miskito. According to some sources, his group initially supported the Sandinistas and it's clashes with other sandinist groups was the reason for the subsequent support of the miskitos for the contras. But i'm not sure i got it right. Anyway, Hooker and his group seem notable to me for this article.-- Severino ( talk) 10:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
The article only shows info about the Sandinistas repressing the Miskitos and some Miskitos joining the Contras -- but it's well documented by Human Rights Watch and the Catholic Church human rights reports of the time that some Contra groups attacked Miskito communities, involving especially bloody abuses. 96.246.39.61 ( talk) 04:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Here are some things that could be added or specified further
Economy material is fascinating.-- Carwil ( talk) 03:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
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