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The text of the apparition quotes the Virgin Mary as saying, "...that here they should erect me my temple!" The word "cathedral" should be changed, if not to "temple," at least to "church." A cathedral is a special church, the church of the bishop. There already was a cathedral in Mexico City. Caeruleancentaur ( talk) 13:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The Virgin Mary appeared to St. Juan Diego four times: twice on 12/9, once on 12/10, and once on 12/12. At this last appearance occured the miracle of the roses. Therefore, I have changed the wording to reflect that: "third" to "fourth." Caeruleancentaur ( talk) 13:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The Virgin Mary did not hand St. Juan Diego a bouquet of roses. The text of the story has her say, "Climb up,...,to the top of the hillock,....There you will see a variety of flowers: Pick them, gather them, bundle them, bring them down, carrying them here to my presence." The story later says, "Down he came,....She in turn, upon inspecting them, took them up in her own hands and again delicately replaced them in the fold of his mantle." It should be noted, also, that nowhere in the original story are roses mentioned. The reference is always to "varied Castilian flowers." This miracle still announces the presence of divinity, and there's nothing wrong about later references to roses. I just wanted to set the record straight. 76.123.208.229 ( talk) 13:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The editing mandated, apparently, for DYK has done more harm than good. It proposes that there is 'one' miracle and then different versions of it; this is incorrect, and I will reorganize the article to reflect this. Also, since the first miracle (at least the first mentioned in the article) is St. Elisabeth's, she should get the lead picture also. Thank you. Drmies ( talk) 22:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The lead sentence is a little weird to me. What is a "common" miracle? One that happens a lot? A well known miracle? Aren't miracles by definition uncommon? It seems a bit strange to me, but then again I haven't been listening to a lot of heavy metal... I might be able to fix it, but I'm a bit tired so it would take some kind of miracle... Ahahahahahahaa! What about: "The miracle of the roses occurs in Catholicism when the presence or activity of God is signified with roses."? And then start the next sentence with Miracle so you don't have the redundancy of explaining what a miravle is using the word miracle. Roger that? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 07:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, I added a section on St. Rita of Cascia and her miracle of the winter rose, mentioned in her wikipedia voice. I also inserted a citation to this miracle by Pope John Paul II. <br\>Regards, RCarmine ( talk) 19:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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The text of the apparition quotes the Virgin Mary as saying, "...that here they should erect me my temple!" The word "cathedral" should be changed, if not to "temple," at least to "church." A cathedral is a special church, the church of the bishop. There already was a cathedral in Mexico City. Caeruleancentaur ( talk) 13:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The Virgin Mary appeared to St. Juan Diego four times: twice on 12/9, once on 12/10, and once on 12/12. At this last appearance occured the miracle of the roses. Therefore, I have changed the wording to reflect that: "third" to "fourth." Caeruleancentaur ( talk) 13:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The Virgin Mary did not hand St. Juan Diego a bouquet of roses. The text of the story has her say, "Climb up,...,to the top of the hillock,....There you will see a variety of flowers: Pick them, gather them, bundle them, bring them down, carrying them here to my presence." The story later says, "Down he came,....She in turn, upon inspecting them, took them up in her own hands and again delicately replaced them in the fold of his mantle." It should be noted, also, that nowhere in the original story are roses mentioned. The reference is always to "varied Castilian flowers." This miracle still announces the presence of divinity, and there's nothing wrong about later references to roses. I just wanted to set the record straight. 76.123.208.229 ( talk) 13:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The editing mandated, apparently, for DYK has done more harm than good. It proposes that there is 'one' miracle and then different versions of it; this is incorrect, and I will reorganize the article to reflect this. Also, since the first miracle (at least the first mentioned in the article) is St. Elisabeth's, she should get the lead picture also. Thank you. Drmies ( talk) 22:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The lead sentence is a little weird to me. What is a "common" miracle? One that happens a lot? A well known miracle? Aren't miracles by definition uncommon? It seems a bit strange to me, but then again I haven't been listening to a lot of heavy metal... I might be able to fix it, but I'm a bit tired so it would take some kind of miracle... Ahahahahahahaa! What about: "The miracle of the roses occurs in Catholicism when the presence or activity of God is signified with roses."? And then start the next sentence with Miracle so you don't have the redundancy of explaining what a miravle is using the word miracle. Roger that? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 07:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of January 26, 2009, compares against the six good article criteria:
The topic has a lot of potential, but a fair amount of effort is needed to improve the referencing and expand the coverage.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— Vassyana ( talk) 10:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I added a section on St. Rita of Cascia and her miracle of the winter rose, mentioned in her wikipedia voice. I also inserted a citation to this miracle by Pope John Paul II. <br\>Regards, RCarmine ( talk) 19:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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