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Can somebody help me with this table? I have some extraneous entries between the table title and the beginning of the table, and I can't figure out where they're coming from. I'm not very good at this table thing. :-( -- Zoe
Since this page grew too big, I separated the list of teams into a separate article. WhisperToMe 02:47, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I apologize if I edit someone else's comments. It really isn't clear to me how someone should simply add a comment here.
Regarding the very end of the article, what is the basis for the comparison of the Florida/Albuquerque attendance? It looks to me like Florida outdrew Albuquerque by more than 2 to 1 on the season.
There is a gaping hole in this article regarding independent leagues. Iceberg3k 14:22, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I think the effect the movie Bull Durham had on minor league baseball should be mentioned. From the movie's wikipedia article: "Most of all, Bull Durham revived interest in minor league baseball, which had been stagnating in small-town areas for decades, to where minor league teams achieve decent attendance and are even subject to relocation/bidding wars between communities." Wangster 05:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
This article distinguishes minor league baseball from Minor League Baseball; It seems like most of the content of this article, other than independant leagues should fall under the Minor League article, though I could be wrong...? I found it confusing to determine what actually fell under Minor League Baseball vs. independant... TheHYPO 07:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This article failed the GA noms due to lack of references. Tarret 00:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Are the minor leagues really professional? I thought that it was amateur just because of its position below the major leagues. Scott Gall 04:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes indeed, they are professional; all players are under contract and receive pay. Of course, at the lowest levels, the pay isn't much.
Wschart
16:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I did not want to storm in and make changes, but it seems to me that except in the formal name of the organization "Minor League Baseball" (where the form is up to the owner of the name) "minor-league" as a compound adjective ought always to be hyphenated: "minor-league baseball", including in the title of the article. Would anyone have problems with that? Owlcroft 22:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Typically Double A and Triple A are not called Class AA or Class AAA but Single A is called Class A or Class A Advanced
Actually, the are four. The rookie leagues, even though they play a "short" season that starts June 19, are not considered the same level as the short-season A leagues - but they ARE considered to be a level within Class A. In fact, one of the two rookie leagues is considered higher than the other - as someone says elsewhere on this page - so if we differentiate High-A and Low-A we probably have to differentiate Rookie and Rookie-Advanced and say there are five divisions of Class A.
This was all actually a lot simpler when there were truly separate levels below AA, all the way down to D. I suppose it came out of the same mentality that makes building management call basements "the ground floor." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick M. Sullivan ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Patrick M. Sullivan ( talk) 18:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
By all means merge this article with Minor League Baseball. Kenallen 02:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
A prior poster has a better solution, this article should properly be named minor-league baseball and should not be merged with an article that is about one specific entity, namely the association of farm clubs run by Major League baseball known as Minor League Baseball. Awotter 20:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I agree that as it currently is set up, it is very confusing to someone who would not expect minor league baseball to refer to two different (but not wholly separate entities). I would vote against merging as they are separate and a combined article could be as confusing as the current situation. Two articles written probably by a single person on both subjects referring to the other but emphasizing the differences would probably be best. Autkm ( talk) 06:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. In my opinion, these two should DEFINITELY be merged. But how does one go about doing this? -- Mm40 ( talk) 01:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, for one thing one waits for a consensus to develop. Also, one gives reasons for one's opinions. I most emphatically disagree that these articles should be merged. One article, the proper noun, refers to a specific organization of leagues with ties to major league teams. The common-noun title is the generic name for all minor leagues, including many that are not affiliated with the majors; where would discussion of these leagues go? The two articles discuss different subjects, and merger would only further confuse the issue. The confusion arises from the organization appropriating the common noun for use as its proper name. Merger would be akin to merging Window (computing) with Microsoft Windows.
That being said, although much of the history is relevant to both the organization and minors in general, it should be edited with at least some degree of emphasis on the development of teams not affiliated with the majors. And the discussion of levels is a discussion of Minor League Baseball the organization, not minor league baseball the type of league, and should be removed from this article and placed in Minor League Baseball.
Much of the content of this page pertains only to the Minor League Baseball organization. That does not mean, however, that there is no need for an article on minor league baseball, the levels of professional baseball that are below the major leagues in quality of play.
I am interested in hearing other viewpoints, but one or two word assertions do not make an argument. This is, after all, a discussion page. Please, why should they be merged? Illexsquid ( talk) 19:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
So, this has been discussed for nearly 9 months with no conclusion? Makes you wonder what the level of interest is. The dilemma is that the National Association renamed itself Minor League Baseball, while teams in the Northern League, for example, are clearly minor leagues but without the NA affiliation. However, there's not enough info to really justify a separate article about "Minor League Baseball", as I see it. One approach would be to use the Baseball America Directory approach and treat them all as nearly-alike, with a nod to MiLB as being obviously a much larger organization than the independents. But at the very least, there needs to be disambiguation. The upper vs. lower case is confusing. MiLB could be renamed as MiLB (organization). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 13:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
My main objection to a merge is simply that not all minor league baseball teams are part of Minor League Baseball. The independent leagues {such as the Northern League) are not part of Minor League Baseball. They are separate entities altogether. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the majority view that it is appropriate to have separate articles for "minor league baseball," the concept, and "Minor League Baseball," the organization which includes many but not all minor leagues. However, much of the information now presented in THIS article is specifically about affiliated leagues and the mechanics of farm systems. I think this specific information--anything which does NOT apply to the independent minors--should be moved over. Spark240 ( talk) 02:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know, but am confused: Can 'Class A' refer to two different classifications? Is this a mistake? I don't know how the minor leagues are arranged, but if there are two Class-A classifications, that should be made clear for laymen like me. Right now it looks like a mistake. Thmazing ( talk) 19:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
The lower-level classifications used to be A, B, C, D. When they reorganized things in the early 1960s, they decided to call everything A or AA or AAA so that nobody would feel "second class" (B,C,D). But that muddied the waters, as there are still different classifications within. Currently you have Triple-A, Double-A, High Class A, Low Class A, Short-Season, Rookie Advanced, and Rookie. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 16:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Although a merger doesn't seem to have been approved on this talk page, the pages Minor League Baseball -- which refers to the association of leagues with teams affiliated with major league clubs (a legal organization) -- and Minor league baseball -- which refers to the concept, were merged. As it stands, all of minor league baseball is being represented by the Minor League Baseball organization logo, which is blatantly misleading. Minor leagues such as the Northern_League_(baseball), the Canadian-American_Association_of_Professional_Baseball, the Golden_Baseball_League, and the Atlantic_League_of_Professional_Baseball, possibly among others, are *not* members of the Minor League Baseball association, and classifying them as such is simply wrong. This isn't nitpicking -- it's an important distinction.
I propose that the old Minor League Baseball article be re-instated, that this article be renamed "Minor league professional baseball", and that the page "Minor league baseball" disambiguate to both articles with an explanation similar to the above. 24.115.58.35 ( talk) 08:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Completely agreed. The current set-up is just incorrect; between the logo from the MiLB organization being the main illustration, and the fact that there is a rather large section of the article devoted purely to the MiLB, there is potentially more confusion than the previous seperate articles. I think a split back to two seperate pages paired with a disambiguation page would be the perfect solution. 98.198.7.30 ( talk) 20:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Mexican League be moved from the AAA list? Since they are not affiliated with major league teams, doesn't the Mexican League belong with the independent teams list? Thoughts, anyone? Elsquared ( talk) 22:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I have been monitoring the lists of franchise cities in the sections regarding each minor league classification. These lists, particularly in sections regarding upper-level classifications, have become compilations of more than a dozen cities as users add their own cities to the list. In my opinion, these lists of cities are meant to provide a general picture of city demographics of each level. Instead, they have become an advertising board for residents of minor league baseball cities to promote their home city. In my opinion, the inclusion of this large amount of cities is unnecessary and irrelevant to the article.
My suggestion is for the lists to be limited to 1-2 cities for each league included in a particular classification. This should adequately provide readers with a general picture of each classification's city demographics. As it will most likely be problematic to decide which cities are included, perhaps the city of the league's current defending champion and runner-up can be used to avoid argument. For example the Triple-A section would include the metropolitan area of Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania (IL defending champs Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees) and Durham, North Carolina (IL defending runner-up Durham Bulls) to represent the International League. The AAA section would also include Sacramento, California (PCL defending champs Sacramento RiverCats) and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (PCL defending runner-ups Oklahoma City Redhawks) to represent the Pacific Coast League.
Please sound in with your thoughts on alternative ideas or if you do not view this issue as a major problem.
- Kithira ( talk) 21:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator. ( non-admin closure) George Ho ( talk) 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Minor League Baseball → Minor league baseball – The article covers two things:, the general concept of "minor league baseball" (lower cased), and the organized body known as Minor League Baseball (upper cased) that contains most but not all minor leagues. As such the title should be decapitalized per WP:NCCAPS. I'd do this myself but the edit history has been mangled by cut-and-paste moves that need repairing, so discussion is warranted. --Relisted. Steel1943 ( talk) 07:43, 7 November 2013 (UTC) Cúchullain t/ c 02:27, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Can someone please show me where the article is getting the information that there are 240 Teams? Isn't it actually 246?
DiamondNRG ( talk) 05:07, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Minor League Baseball is a legal organization, while Minor league baseball is about the general concept of minor league baseball, and it's very confusing to have them both on one page. From reading this talk page and Talk:Minor league baseball, it seems clear that there has only been tepid support at best for this article covering two topics. It's time we split these up again. - BilCat ( talk) 14:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Since the only objections have been answered, are there any further objections to splitting? If not, I'll go ahead and perform the split. Thanks. - BilCat ( talk) 04:29, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@
BilCat: I too would support a split, or at least a renaming to
Minor league baseball, which may fairly be said to include both topics. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 13:29, 28 November 2014 (UTC).
Can someone explain why the article states MILB consists of 19 leagues comprised of 246 teams when the MILB website says 15 leagues and 176 teams? I found the latter numbers on a news release about MILB attendance in 2015 ( http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20150909&content_id=148297748&fext=.jsp&vkey=pr_milb&sid=milb). Pistongrinder ( talk) 15:20, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
The lead to the "Umpires" section is rather confusing. It contains a broken link, an incomplete sentence, and an odd reference to the "National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues," which is what Minor League Baseball used to be called. According to MiLB.com, "Minor League Baseball Umpire Development is the entity which is responsible for the training, evaluation, and recommendation for promotion, retention, or release of all umpires in the Minor League Baseball system throughout the United States and Canada." I propose replacing what's on there now with this statement and source. Pistongrinder ( talk) 00:00, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
The lead says 246 teams, but the infobox says 240. Is there a source that can tell us definitively which one it is so we can fix the discrepancy? Pistongrinder ( talk) 21:59, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
The infobox says MiLB was founded in 1868 (but no exact date). This is not supported anywhere else in the article, and I can find no sources that back it up. Is there some reference to 1868 being the official beginning of the organization that I am missing? If not, it appears to contradict what the organization itself says about its origins: "The National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues, now known as Minor League Baseball, was formed on September 5, 1901." [4] I'm inclined to change the infobox at this point. Pistongrinder ( talk) 21:06, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I though I read that Minor League Baseball has a set mile radius that teams needs to set apart from. If there are cities inside that radius, they are force to be in independent league or collegiate summer baseball league. Is that true? -- BigMac1212 ( talk) 13:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Local news broke this week about the formation of the Southwest Baseball League, an all-Texas league starting in 2018. The source refers to it as "minor league," but it's unclear to me if it will actually be part of the MiLB organization. Is this just a new independent league? Pistongrinder ( talk) 16:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Interesting article about how little minor league players make. May be a little controversial, but I think it could be added to the 4th paragraph of the Players section. Pistongrinder ( talk) 17:12, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by proposer. Station1 ( talk) 20:02, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Minor League Baseball → Minor league baseball – Per Cuchullain's withdrawn proposal in 2013, this article is a merge of the generic topic of minor league baseball with the topic on the organization Minor League Baseball. There is no good reason for the article to be titled as the proper name of just one part of the topic. Let's get this sorted. Dicklyon ( talk) 03:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Looks like a judge has revived the class action suit claiming MiLB players get paid less than minimum wage [6]. I've commented before on minor league pay, which seems to me to be a relevant yet under-addressed topic. At what point, if at all, does this story become noteworthy enough to include on the page? Pistongrinder ( talk) 15:35, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Should the Intercounty Baseball League not be included in this list? It is similar to other leagues listed here. It has a lot of history and ties with Major League Baseball.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.2.247.34 ( talk) 15:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Are the new pace of play rules and the fact that MiLB is being used as a MLB testing ground noteworthy enough to include somewhere in this article? I think it is important, but I will admit my bias. I'm also wondering if it would be beneficial to create a new "Rules" section. Pistongrinder ( talk) 15:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Can somebody help me with this table? I have some extraneous entries between the table title and the beginning of the table, and I can't figure out where they're coming from. I'm not very good at this table thing. :-( -- Zoe
Since this page grew too big, I separated the list of teams into a separate article. WhisperToMe 02:47, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I apologize if I edit someone else's comments. It really isn't clear to me how someone should simply add a comment here.
Regarding the very end of the article, what is the basis for the comparison of the Florida/Albuquerque attendance? It looks to me like Florida outdrew Albuquerque by more than 2 to 1 on the season.
There is a gaping hole in this article regarding independent leagues. Iceberg3k 14:22, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I think the effect the movie Bull Durham had on minor league baseball should be mentioned. From the movie's wikipedia article: "Most of all, Bull Durham revived interest in minor league baseball, which had been stagnating in small-town areas for decades, to where minor league teams achieve decent attendance and are even subject to relocation/bidding wars between communities." Wangster 05:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
This article distinguishes minor league baseball from Minor League Baseball; It seems like most of the content of this article, other than independant leagues should fall under the Minor League article, though I could be wrong...? I found it confusing to determine what actually fell under Minor League Baseball vs. independant... TheHYPO 07:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This article failed the GA noms due to lack of references. Tarret 00:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Are the minor leagues really professional? I thought that it was amateur just because of its position below the major leagues. Scott Gall 04:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes indeed, they are professional; all players are under contract and receive pay. Of course, at the lowest levels, the pay isn't much.
Wschart
16:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I did not want to storm in and make changes, but it seems to me that except in the formal name of the organization "Minor League Baseball" (where the form is up to the owner of the name) "minor-league" as a compound adjective ought always to be hyphenated: "minor-league baseball", including in the title of the article. Would anyone have problems with that? Owlcroft 22:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Typically Double A and Triple A are not called Class AA or Class AAA but Single A is called Class A or Class A Advanced
Actually, the are four. The rookie leagues, even though they play a "short" season that starts June 19, are not considered the same level as the short-season A leagues - but they ARE considered to be a level within Class A. In fact, one of the two rookie leagues is considered higher than the other - as someone says elsewhere on this page - so if we differentiate High-A and Low-A we probably have to differentiate Rookie and Rookie-Advanced and say there are five divisions of Class A.
This was all actually a lot simpler when there were truly separate levels below AA, all the way down to D. I suppose it came out of the same mentality that makes building management call basements "the ground floor." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick M. Sullivan ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Patrick M. Sullivan ( talk) 18:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
By all means merge this article with Minor League Baseball. Kenallen 02:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
A prior poster has a better solution, this article should properly be named minor-league baseball and should not be merged with an article that is about one specific entity, namely the association of farm clubs run by Major League baseball known as Minor League Baseball. Awotter 20:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I agree that as it currently is set up, it is very confusing to someone who would not expect minor league baseball to refer to two different (but not wholly separate entities). I would vote against merging as they are separate and a combined article could be as confusing as the current situation. Two articles written probably by a single person on both subjects referring to the other but emphasizing the differences would probably be best. Autkm ( talk) 06:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. In my opinion, these two should DEFINITELY be merged. But how does one go about doing this? -- Mm40 ( talk) 01:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, for one thing one waits for a consensus to develop. Also, one gives reasons for one's opinions. I most emphatically disagree that these articles should be merged. One article, the proper noun, refers to a specific organization of leagues with ties to major league teams. The common-noun title is the generic name for all minor leagues, including many that are not affiliated with the majors; where would discussion of these leagues go? The two articles discuss different subjects, and merger would only further confuse the issue. The confusion arises from the organization appropriating the common noun for use as its proper name. Merger would be akin to merging Window (computing) with Microsoft Windows.
That being said, although much of the history is relevant to both the organization and minors in general, it should be edited with at least some degree of emphasis on the development of teams not affiliated with the majors. And the discussion of levels is a discussion of Minor League Baseball the organization, not minor league baseball the type of league, and should be removed from this article and placed in Minor League Baseball.
Much of the content of this page pertains only to the Minor League Baseball organization. That does not mean, however, that there is no need for an article on minor league baseball, the levels of professional baseball that are below the major leagues in quality of play.
I am interested in hearing other viewpoints, but one or two word assertions do not make an argument. This is, after all, a discussion page. Please, why should they be merged? Illexsquid ( talk) 19:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
So, this has been discussed for nearly 9 months with no conclusion? Makes you wonder what the level of interest is. The dilemma is that the National Association renamed itself Minor League Baseball, while teams in the Northern League, for example, are clearly minor leagues but without the NA affiliation. However, there's not enough info to really justify a separate article about "Minor League Baseball", as I see it. One approach would be to use the Baseball America Directory approach and treat them all as nearly-alike, with a nod to MiLB as being obviously a much larger organization than the independents. But at the very least, there needs to be disambiguation. The upper vs. lower case is confusing. MiLB could be renamed as MiLB (organization). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 13:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
My main objection to a merge is simply that not all minor league baseball teams are part of Minor League Baseball. The independent leagues {such as the Northern League) are not part of Minor League Baseball. They are separate entities altogether. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the majority view that it is appropriate to have separate articles for "minor league baseball," the concept, and "Minor League Baseball," the organization which includes many but not all minor leagues. However, much of the information now presented in THIS article is specifically about affiliated leagues and the mechanics of farm systems. I think this specific information--anything which does NOT apply to the independent minors--should be moved over. Spark240 ( talk) 02:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know, but am confused: Can 'Class A' refer to two different classifications? Is this a mistake? I don't know how the minor leagues are arranged, but if there are two Class-A classifications, that should be made clear for laymen like me. Right now it looks like a mistake. Thmazing ( talk) 19:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
The lower-level classifications used to be A, B, C, D. When they reorganized things in the early 1960s, they decided to call everything A or AA or AAA so that nobody would feel "second class" (B,C,D). But that muddied the waters, as there are still different classifications within. Currently you have Triple-A, Double-A, High Class A, Low Class A, Short-Season, Rookie Advanced, and Rookie. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 16:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Although a merger doesn't seem to have been approved on this talk page, the pages Minor League Baseball -- which refers to the association of leagues with teams affiliated with major league clubs (a legal organization) -- and Minor league baseball -- which refers to the concept, were merged. As it stands, all of minor league baseball is being represented by the Minor League Baseball organization logo, which is blatantly misleading. Minor leagues such as the Northern_League_(baseball), the Canadian-American_Association_of_Professional_Baseball, the Golden_Baseball_League, and the Atlantic_League_of_Professional_Baseball, possibly among others, are *not* members of the Minor League Baseball association, and classifying them as such is simply wrong. This isn't nitpicking -- it's an important distinction.
I propose that the old Minor League Baseball article be re-instated, that this article be renamed "Minor league professional baseball", and that the page "Minor league baseball" disambiguate to both articles with an explanation similar to the above. 24.115.58.35 ( talk) 08:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Completely agreed. The current set-up is just incorrect; between the logo from the MiLB organization being the main illustration, and the fact that there is a rather large section of the article devoted purely to the MiLB, there is potentially more confusion than the previous seperate articles. I think a split back to two seperate pages paired with a disambiguation page would be the perfect solution. 98.198.7.30 ( talk) 20:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Mexican League be moved from the AAA list? Since they are not affiliated with major league teams, doesn't the Mexican League belong with the independent teams list? Thoughts, anyone? Elsquared ( talk) 22:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I have been monitoring the lists of franchise cities in the sections regarding each minor league classification. These lists, particularly in sections regarding upper-level classifications, have become compilations of more than a dozen cities as users add their own cities to the list. In my opinion, these lists of cities are meant to provide a general picture of city demographics of each level. Instead, they have become an advertising board for residents of minor league baseball cities to promote their home city. In my opinion, the inclusion of this large amount of cities is unnecessary and irrelevant to the article.
My suggestion is for the lists to be limited to 1-2 cities for each league included in a particular classification. This should adequately provide readers with a general picture of each classification's city demographics. As it will most likely be problematic to decide which cities are included, perhaps the city of the league's current defending champion and runner-up can be used to avoid argument. For example the Triple-A section would include the metropolitan area of Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania (IL defending champs Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees) and Durham, North Carolina (IL defending runner-up Durham Bulls) to represent the International League. The AAA section would also include Sacramento, California (PCL defending champs Sacramento RiverCats) and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (PCL defending runner-ups Oklahoma City Redhawks) to represent the Pacific Coast League.
Please sound in with your thoughts on alternative ideas or if you do not view this issue as a major problem.
- Kithira ( talk) 21:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator. ( non-admin closure) George Ho ( talk) 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Minor League Baseball → Minor league baseball – The article covers two things:, the general concept of "minor league baseball" (lower cased), and the organized body known as Minor League Baseball (upper cased) that contains most but not all minor leagues. As such the title should be decapitalized per WP:NCCAPS. I'd do this myself but the edit history has been mangled by cut-and-paste moves that need repairing, so discussion is warranted. --Relisted. Steel1943 ( talk) 07:43, 7 November 2013 (UTC) Cúchullain t/ c 02:27, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Can someone please show me where the article is getting the information that there are 240 Teams? Isn't it actually 246?
DiamondNRG ( talk) 05:07, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Minor League Baseball is a legal organization, while Minor league baseball is about the general concept of minor league baseball, and it's very confusing to have them both on one page. From reading this talk page and Talk:Minor league baseball, it seems clear that there has only been tepid support at best for this article covering two topics. It's time we split these up again. - BilCat ( talk) 14:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Since the only objections have been answered, are there any further objections to splitting? If not, I'll go ahead and perform the split. Thanks. - BilCat ( talk) 04:29, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@
BilCat: I too would support a split, or at least a renaming to
Minor league baseball, which may fairly be said to include both topics. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 13:29, 28 November 2014 (UTC).
Can someone explain why the article states MILB consists of 19 leagues comprised of 246 teams when the MILB website says 15 leagues and 176 teams? I found the latter numbers on a news release about MILB attendance in 2015 ( http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20150909&content_id=148297748&fext=.jsp&vkey=pr_milb&sid=milb). Pistongrinder ( talk) 15:20, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
The lead to the "Umpires" section is rather confusing. It contains a broken link, an incomplete sentence, and an odd reference to the "National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues," which is what Minor League Baseball used to be called. According to MiLB.com, "Minor League Baseball Umpire Development is the entity which is responsible for the training, evaluation, and recommendation for promotion, retention, or release of all umpires in the Minor League Baseball system throughout the United States and Canada." I propose replacing what's on there now with this statement and source. Pistongrinder ( talk) 00:00, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
The lead says 246 teams, but the infobox says 240. Is there a source that can tell us definitively which one it is so we can fix the discrepancy? Pistongrinder ( talk) 21:59, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
The infobox says MiLB was founded in 1868 (but no exact date). This is not supported anywhere else in the article, and I can find no sources that back it up. Is there some reference to 1868 being the official beginning of the organization that I am missing? If not, it appears to contradict what the organization itself says about its origins: "The National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues, now known as Minor League Baseball, was formed on September 5, 1901." [4] I'm inclined to change the infobox at this point. Pistongrinder ( talk) 21:06, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I though I read that Minor League Baseball has a set mile radius that teams needs to set apart from. If there are cities inside that radius, they are force to be in independent league or collegiate summer baseball league. Is that true? -- BigMac1212 ( talk) 13:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Local news broke this week about the formation of the Southwest Baseball League, an all-Texas league starting in 2018. The source refers to it as "minor league," but it's unclear to me if it will actually be part of the MiLB organization. Is this just a new independent league? Pistongrinder ( talk) 16:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Interesting article about how little minor league players make. May be a little controversial, but I think it could be added to the 4th paragraph of the Players section. Pistongrinder ( talk) 17:12, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by proposer. Station1 ( talk) 20:02, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Minor League Baseball → Minor league baseball – Per Cuchullain's withdrawn proposal in 2013, this article is a merge of the generic topic of minor league baseball with the topic on the organization Minor League Baseball. There is no good reason for the article to be titled as the proper name of just one part of the topic. Let's get this sorted. Dicklyon ( talk) 03:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Looks like a judge has revived the class action suit claiming MiLB players get paid less than minimum wage [6]. I've commented before on minor league pay, which seems to me to be a relevant yet under-addressed topic. At what point, if at all, does this story become noteworthy enough to include on the page? Pistongrinder ( talk) 15:35, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Should the Intercounty Baseball League not be included in this list? It is similar to other leagues listed here. It has a lot of history and ties with Major League Baseball.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.2.247.34 ( talk) 15:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Are the new pace of play rules and the fact that MiLB is being used as a MLB testing ground noteworthy enough to include somewhere in this article? I think it is important, but I will admit my bias. I'm also wondering if it would be beneficial to create a new "Rules" section. Pistongrinder ( talk) 15:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)