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"All horses were equipped with stirrups. Those had been invented by the Huns quite some time before, but remained largely unknown to the rest of the world. This technical advantage allowed the Mongol archers to turn their upper body, and shoot in all directions, including backwards."
When I first read this I thought it was saying that most of the Mongols' rivals had no knowledge of stirrups, which I believe is incorrect (stirrups being the prime component of medieval mountien warfare). If the sentence is just saying that the Huns invented stirrups first, and others were unaware of them until some time later (including the Mongols), then that part of the sentence may be unnecessary. It may not be accurate, either; the stirrups article here seems to depict stirrups as being a more gradual invention, with the Huns not mentioned. - BaronGrackle 01:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Can anybody explain to me how "the Mongol military...can be regarded as the first modern military system."? What about the Romans and their Legion organization? Were they not a "modern" military system? Or does this have to do with the tactics used with the different units? Ace blazer ( talk) 19:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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The section on Training and Discipline has the following sentence "This training was maintained by a hard, but not overly harsh or unreasonable, discipline." This seems to be a subjective opinion on how severe the training was and it also lacks any citation? JamesF0790 ( talk) 06:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
whoever wrote the majority of this article did not cite sources - needs much work 50.111.1.232 ( talk) 01:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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"All horses were equipped with stirrups. Those had been invented by the Huns quite some time before, but remained largely unknown to the rest of the world. This technical advantage allowed the Mongol archers to turn their upper body, and shoot in all directions, including backwards."
When I first read this I thought it was saying that most of the Mongols' rivals had no knowledge of stirrups, which I believe is incorrect (stirrups being the prime component of medieval mountien warfare). If the sentence is just saying that the Huns invented stirrups first, and others were unaware of them until some time later (including the Mongols), then that part of the sentence may be unnecessary. It may not be accurate, either; the stirrups article here seems to depict stirrups as being a more gradual invention, with the Huns not mentioned. - BaronGrackle 01:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Can anybody explain to me how "the Mongol military...can be regarded as the first modern military system."? What about the Romans and their Legion organization? Were they not a "modern" military system? Or does this have to do with the tactics used with the different units? Ace blazer ( talk) 19:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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The section on Training and Discipline has the following sentence "This training was maintained by a hard, but not overly harsh or unreasonable, discipline." This seems to be a subjective opinion on how severe the training was and it also lacks any citation? JamesF0790 ( talk) 06:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
whoever wrote the majority of this article did not cite sources - needs much work 50.111.1.232 ( talk) 01:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)