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Due to expansion of the series, I feel like Ivan Vorpatril and Mark Vorkosigan should really get their own wikipages. They are major parts of the story but they are only around as sidebars to Miles. What do we think? Dachande 19:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Now I am just going to do it and we can rebuild what doesn't flow well but I really think Mark and Ivan deserve their own pages. They are huge parts of the story, not just sidebars to Miles. Dachande 18:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Miles has black hair and grey eyes. The guy on the cover of A Civil Campaign is therefore definitely not Miles. Needs a different picture. Is the one from SJGames useable?
Attn: Tamfang
Hi, as best I can tell, you're the one who wrote "several more books apparently on the way" in this page. I think this is possibly an unwarranted assumption. Lois is happily doing other stuff now, as I'm sure you know. The most recent manuscript is in another new universe, and she still has two "Chalion" books to write. The last time I was reading the LMB list (trying to; a couple of people seem to have taken it over), she was expressing her weariness with all things Vorkosigan - especially all the fans who importune her to write more of it. She's also said that Ekaterin doesn't seem to want to be written about (OWTTE). Whether this means we'll never seen the long-dreaded demise of Aral or not, I can't really tell. I'm sure many would just as soon not, except that apparently might mean nothing else more, period.
I'm the one who made your realnym into an adjective on the list, BTW, if you're having trouble figuring out who I "really" am. :) -- Tygerbryght 21:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
"Although not an heir to a Countship, Ivan is addressed as Lord Vorpatril, rather than Lord Ivan (non-heir in a Count's Household) or just "Vorpatril", presumably because of his descent from an Imperial daughter." Ummm ... Miles had exactly as much Vorbarra blood in him as Ivan did -- they trace their lineage to the same grandmother -- and Miles was referred to as "Lord Miles" until his grandfather's death. Is there any actual reference in the books to him not being the Vorpatril heir? RGTraynor 19:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I can't put my hand on it this moment, but didn't Ivan and Miles have a discussion at one point where Ivan was lamenting the fact that inheritence doesn't work backwards? The gist of the discussion was that he wasn't going to inherit anything interesting, but that at least one very old Vor (Count?) would inherit from him if he died. MilesVorkosigan 20:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Someone should create a section on Duv Galeni, who had fallen into Miles' orbit, and eventually became Miles' ward (Miles: "Contrary to what people believe, Duv is not my personal property!") Despite Miles' protestations, Duv and his career have become very dear to Miles (best evidenced in Memory).
Both TheFarix and I are quoting the WP:Spoiler as to whether Miles's page deserves a spoiler warning. I claim that since it is NOT about a story, and NOT labeled "Plot" there should be a spoiler warning since this page reveals a lot of plot about Miles. Wikipedia is based on concensus and I truly invite discussion on this. Please let me know what you guys think. Dachande 03:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree heartily as the article is meant to be biographical and since he is the main character, it is hard not to give away some of the story. WD208728 ( talk) 01:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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I have removed the statement that Tung has referred to miles as "skinny neurasthenic git," as this reference was to Gregor Vorbarra. Dan ad nauseam ( talk) 06:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
"Additionally, the position of Imperial Auditor seems to attach a Lord at the beginning of the title. Although one is a professional title, Lord Auditor and the other is by primogeniture, it is unknown how to distinguish between an Auditor and one who is also a Lord as a result of being the heir to a District."
Never edited one of these before, but can we get a source on Count Aral Vorkosigan's death, stepson, and various kidlets? Last I remember reading they were popping out two at the end of diplomatic Immunity 69.145.234.191 ( talk) 00:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
shouldn't biography come before personality Johnsamman ( talk) 19:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Due to expansion of the series, I feel like Ivan Vorpatril and Mark Vorkosigan should really get their own wikipages. They are major parts of the story but they are only around as sidebars to Miles. What do we think? Dachande 19:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Now I am just going to do it and we can rebuild what doesn't flow well but I really think Mark and Ivan deserve their own pages. They are huge parts of the story, not just sidebars to Miles. Dachande 18:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Miles has black hair and grey eyes. The guy on the cover of A Civil Campaign is therefore definitely not Miles. Needs a different picture. Is the one from SJGames useable?
Attn: Tamfang
Hi, as best I can tell, you're the one who wrote "several more books apparently on the way" in this page. I think this is possibly an unwarranted assumption. Lois is happily doing other stuff now, as I'm sure you know. The most recent manuscript is in another new universe, and she still has two "Chalion" books to write. The last time I was reading the LMB list (trying to; a couple of people seem to have taken it over), she was expressing her weariness with all things Vorkosigan - especially all the fans who importune her to write more of it. She's also said that Ekaterin doesn't seem to want to be written about (OWTTE). Whether this means we'll never seen the long-dreaded demise of Aral or not, I can't really tell. I'm sure many would just as soon not, except that apparently might mean nothing else more, period.
I'm the one who made your realnym into an adjective on the list, BTW, if you're having trouble figuring out who I "really" am. :) -- Tygerbryght 21:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
"Although not an heir to a Countship, Ivan is addressed as Lord Vorpatril, rather than Lord Ivan (non-heir in a Count's Household) or just "Vorpatril", presumably because of his descent from an Imperial daughter." Ummm ... Miles had exactly as much Vorbarra blood in him as Ivan did -- they trace their lineage to the same grandmother -- and Miles was referred to as "Lord Miles" until his grandfather's death. Is there any actual reference in the books to him not being the Vorpatril heir? RGTraynor 19:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I can't put my hand on it this moment, but didn't Ivan and Miles have a discussion at one point where Ivan was lamenting the fact that inheritence doesn't work backwards? The gist of the discussion was that he wasn't going to inherit anything interesting, but that at least one very old Vor (Count?) would inherit from him if he died. MilesVorkosigan 20:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Someone should create a section on Duv Galeni, who had fallen into Miles' orbit, and eventually became Miles' ward (Miles: "Contrary to what people believe, Duv is not my personal property!") Despite Miles' protestations, Duv and his career have become very dear to Miles (best evidenced in Memory).
Both TheFarix and I are quoting the WP:Spoiler as to whether Miles's page deserves a spoiler warning. I claim that since it is NOT about a story, and NOT labeled "Plot" there should be a spoiler warning since this page reveals a lot of plot about Miles. Wikipedia is based on concensus and I truly invite discussion on this. Please let me know what you guys think. Dachande 03:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree heartily as the article is meant to be biographical and since he is the main character, it is hard not to give away some of the story. WD208728 ( talk) 01:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Image:Der Kadett.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 06:57, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the statement that Tung has referred to miles as "skinny neurasthenic git," as this reference was to Gregor Vorbarra. Dan ad nauseam ( talk) 06:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
"Additionally, the position of Imperial Auditor seems to attach a Lord at the beginning of the title. Although one is a professional title, Lord Auditor and the other is by primogeniture, it is unknown how to distinguish between an Auditor and one who is also a Lord as a result of being the heir to a District."
Never edited one of these before, but can we get a source on Count Aral Vorkosigan's death, stepson, and various kidlets? Last I remember reading they were popping out two at the end of diplomatic Immunity 69.145.234.191 ( talk) 00:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
shouldn't biography come before personality Johnsamman ( talk) 19:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)