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Created by Bruxton ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC).
I think the photos should be better. The main one is shot at an extremely distorted perspective. Architectural photos usually try to minimize distortions. They often use special tilt-shift lenses to make everything square. I think one of the first two of these would be better. Also, I think the side view should be at a different angle, I suggest the third one for that. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 21:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
At one time you had this one, which doesn't suffer too badly from perspective distortion.
Bubba73
You talkin' to me? 07:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Why Category:Houses in Sarasota County, Florida? Also, does it count as an establishment? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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main founders— "main" seems redundant to me, unless the Sarasota School had an unusually large number of founders?
The 6,858-square-foot (637.1 m2) home...— I think this sentence belongs more in "Design" than in "History". Also, link Atlantic Ocean.
Paul Rudolph designed 60 homes in Florida— Technically the source says he designed "nearly" 60.
She recognized the importance of the Rudolph-designed home and purchased it knowing that the repairs were estimated to be $1.3 million.— I'd rephrase this, something like
At the time of purchase, the cost of repairs was estimated to be $1.3 million.
The home appears on the cover of his 2002 book, Paul Rudolph: The Florida Houses.— Don't think this is really significant enough to include.
Done
the windows and doors do not open— Really? The doors do not open? I guess the source says "none of the windows and doors on the ocean are operable", but it's not clear to me whether that means that the doors were never meant to open or that they have since become "inoperable" and require repair. Whereas the source explicitly says "he meant for the windows not to open".
In keeping with the Sarasota School of Architecture ideology— Suggest
the Sarasota ideologyas less unwieldy.
Rudolph attempted to blur the lines between inside and outside. One example of this method: ...and
Another way that the architect followed the Sarasota School is to.... Try to rephrase so that the section is a straightforward factual description of the design of the building, with asides where necessary noting its adherence to the Sarasota School.
These changes are not required to meet the good article criteria, but you might consider making them anyway to improve the article.
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.Overall, just needs a little bit of work to be a GA. Putting on hold. Ruбlov ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
It was designed by architect Paul Rudolph, who was a founder of the Sarasota School of Architecture and it was built in the style of Sarasota Modern.— This is a bit awkward and you shouldn't link both "Sarasota School of Architecture" and "Sarasota Modern" because they go to the same place. Do you need to mention the Sarasota School in the lead or can you just say
It was designed by architect Paul Rudolph in the Sarasota Modern style?
The late modernist home has an unusual facade of large geometrical shapes facing the ocean. Completed in 1961, it was the Architectural Record's House of the Year in 1963. In 2016, it was added to the National Register of Historic Places.?
It is an oceanfront property with an unusual facade featuring large open squares and rectangles which face the ocean. The openings in the facade are covered with glass to allow wide open views of the ocean.
in the style of the Sarasota Modern by, architect Paul Rudolph.— stray comma
In 1963 the home appears on the cover of Rudolph's 2002 book, Paul Rudolph: The Florida Houses.— I think "In 1963" is supposed to go with the next sentence? I see what you're trying to do with this sentence, but I think the source lets us even be more direct, because it says "It is iconic enough to have been used for the cover image on the 2002 book Paul Rudolph: The Florida Houses." So I think we can say something like "The home is considered one of Rudolph's most iconic residential designs".
The building was put up for sale in 2017 and in 2020 Jonathan and Sheila Lee Davies purchased the building for $3.45 million , approximately $1 million under the asking price.— There is a space before the comma.
Sheila Lee Davies is an Atlanta-based architect who decided to take on the task of repairing the building and site. She recognized the importance of the Rudolph-designed home and purchased it: at the time of purchase, the cost of repairs was estimated to be $1.3 million.— Suggest rephrasing to
Sheila Lee Davies, an Atlanta-based architect, planned to repair the building, at an estimated cost of $1.3 million.
It is 6,858-square-foot (637.1 m2) home...the first sentence of the "Design" section.
Ruduolph designed the home so that the windows and doors on the ocean side of the building, do not open.— Typo in Rudolph's name, and another stray comma. As before, I'm not sure it's accurate to say that "Rudolph designed the home... so that the doors... do not open". Do you have another source that corroborates this claim?
Ruбlov ( talk • contribs) 12:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
The late modernist home has an unusual facade of large geometrical shapes facing the ocean.and
The home has an unusual facade of large geometrical shapes which face the ocean.Also, the first sentence already mentions that it faces the ocean so you don't need to mention it again.
In 1963 The home won— "The" should not be capitalized, and there should be a comma after "In 1963".
The home is 6,858-square-foot (637.1 m2) home is on two acres (0.81 ha)— The grammar in this sentence is mangled.
The Milam residence was the first residential property...— "residence" should be capitalized.
I am skeptical of calling this the "House of the Year" for 1963. The Architectural Record issue describes 20 houses for the year equally; the Milam residence among them. The only other provided source, Jacksonville Magazine, is not ideal, and is written by a marketer. Can we call this "one of Architectural Record's 20 "Record Houses of 1963", as the architecture magazine describes them that way? ɱ (talk) 16:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk) 07:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Created by Bruxton ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC).
I think the photos should be better. The main one is shot at an extremely distorted perspective. Architectural photos usually try to minimize distortions. They often use special tilt-shift lenses to make everything square. I think one of the first two of these would be better. Also, I think the side view should be at a different angle, I suggest the third one for that. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 21:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
At one time you had this one, which doesn't suffer too badly from perspective distortion.
Bubba73
You talkin' to me? 07:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Why Category:Houses in Sarasota County, Florida? Also, does it count as an establishment? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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Done
parking
template parameter; I'd omit it. Done
main founders— "main" seems redundant to me, unless the Sarasota School had an unusually large number of founders?
The 6,858-square-foot (637.1 m2) home...— I think this sentence belongs more in "Design" than in "History". Also, link Atlantic Ocean.
Paul Rudolph designed 60 homes in Florida— Technically the source says he designed "nearly" 60.
She recognized the importance of the Rudolph-designed home and purchased it knowing that the repairs were estimated to be $1.3 million.— I'd rephrase this, something like
At the time of purchase, the cost of repairs was estimated to be $1.3 million.
The home appears on the cover of his 2002 book, Paul Rudolph: The Florida Houses.— Don't think this is really significant enough to include.
Done
the windows and doors do not open— Really? The doors do not open? I guess the source says "none of the windows and doors on the ocean are operable", but it's not clear to me whether that means that the doors were never meant to open or that they have since become "inoperable" and require repair. Whereas the source explicitly says "he meant for the windows not to open".
In keeping with the Sarasota School of Architecture ideology— Suggest
the Sarasota ideologyas less unwieldy.
Rudolph attempted to blur the lines between inside and outside. One example of this method: ...and
Another way that the architect followed the Sarasota School is to.... Try to rephrase so that the section is a straightforward factual description of the design of the building, with asides where necessary noting its adherence to the Sarasota School.
These changes are not required to meet the good article criteria, but you might consider making them anyway to improve the article.
publisher
parameter of the cite news
template when you should be using work
.Overall, just needs a little bit of work to be a GA. Putting on hold. Ruбlov ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
It was designed by architect Paul Rudolph, who was a founder of the Sarasota School of Architecture and it was built in the style of Sarasota Modern.— This is a bit awkward and you shouldn't link both "Sarasota School of Architecture" and "Sarasota Modern" because they go to the same place. Do you need to mention the Sarasota School in the lead or can you just say
It was designed by architect Paul Rudolph in the Sarasota Modern style?
The late modernist home has an unusual facade of large geometrical shapes facing the ocean. Completed in 1961, it was the Architectural Record's House of the Year in 1963. In 2016, it was added to the National Register of Historic Places.?
It is an oceanfront property with an unusual facade featuring large open squares and rectangles which face the ocean. The openings in the facade are covered with glass to allow wide open views of the ocean.
in the style of the Sarasota Modern by, architect Paul Rudolph.— stray comma
In 1963 the home appears on the cover of Rudolph's 2002 book, Paul Rudolph: The Florida Houses.— I think "In 1963" is supposed to go with the next sentence? I see what you're trying to do with this sentence, but I think the source lets us even be more direct, because it says "It is iconic enough to have been used for the cover image on the 2002 book Paul Rudolph: The Florida Houses." So I think we can say something like "The home is considered one of Rudolph's most iconic residential designs".
The building was put up for sale in 2017 and in 2020 Jonathan and Sheila Lee Davies purchased the building for $3.45 million , approximately $1 million under the asking price.— There is a space before the comma.
Sheila Lee Davies is an Atlanta-based architect who decided to take on the task of repairing the building and site. She recognized the importance of the Rudolph-designed home and purchased it: at the time of purchase, the cost of repairs was estimated to be $1.3 million.— Suggest rephrasing to
Sheila Lee Davies, an Atlanta-based architect, planned to repair the building, at an estimated cost of $1.3 million.
It is 6,858-square-foot (637.1 m2) home...the first sentence of the "Design" section.
Ruduolph designed the home so that the windows and doors on the ocean side of the building, do not open.— Typo in Rudolph's name, and another stray comma. As before, I'm not sure it's accurate to say that "Rudolph designed the home... so that the doors... do not open". Do you have another source that corroborates this claim?
Ruбlov ( talk • contribs) 12:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
The late modernist home has an unusual facade of large geometrical shapes facing the ocean.and
The home has an unusual facade of large geometrical shapes which face the ocean.Also, the first sentence already mentions that it faces the ocean so you don't need to mention it again.
In 1963 The home won— "The" should not be capitalized, and there should be a comma after "In 1963".
The home is 6,858-square-foot (637.1 m2) home is on two acres (0.81 ha)— The grammar in this sentence is mangled.
The Milam residence was the first residential property...— "residence" should be capitalized.
I am skeptical of calling this the "House of the Year" for 1963. The Architectural Record issue describes 20 houses for the year equally; the Milam residence among them. The only other provided source, Jacksonville Magazine, is not ideal, and is written by a marketer. Can we call this "one of Architectural Record's 20 "Record Houses of 1963", as the architecture magazine describes them that way? ɱ (talk) 16:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)