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Folks, where the discussion has disappeared in??? -- jno 11:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
The bit about the improved APU seems to have been copied out of context from the Mi-17 article. In that article it is clearly a detail about a particular batch of Czech aircraft with a Czech APU. It does not apply to other Mi-17 or Mi-8MT, and could be retrofitted to older Mi-8 types. Removed. Meggar 03:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Why is there no information on the Mi-17 varients?
Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere? Unless I missed it, I didnt see it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sargonite ( talk • contribs) 23:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I keep on hearing about this bird; the best Wikipedia result is this page. Is the 172 a completely different helo? Something else entirely? What? Sandy of the CSARs ( talk) 02:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
hehe, the irony of one of the most heavily armed soviet helicopters. On a more wikipedia/serious matter, Id truthfuly would like to know a little more about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.249.209 ( talk) 19:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Article reassessed and graded as start class. -- dashiellx ( talk) 18:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Should this be added to the article? Canada is leasing them to use in Afghanistan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.154.81 ( talk) 20:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
The reason for the aircraft to only breafly beeing in civilian register is probably because the aircraft isn't approved for civlian use. I don't have citations, sorry. Since the coastguard in Finland also performs sea-rescue missions in bad weather (Estonia accident) and the aircraft is one of the few available to have heated propblades it was decided to keep them in mil-register, and lending them to the civilian boarderguard. Something like that. 193.167.32.32 ( talk) 13:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
'Developed from the Mil Mi-4 with a larger cabin ...' Mi-4 was a copy of Si-58, with the 1,000 hp ASh-82 (M-62) piston engine in the nose. To say that Mi-8 with two turboshaft engines on the top of a three-times larger cabin was 'developed' from it is about as accurate as saying that B-52 was developed from B-17. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmachat ( talk • contribs)
According to Google, "5000 million Turkish liras" is approximately 3.2 billion U.S. dollars. This has to be wrong. M17 ( talk)M17 —Preceding undated comment added 05:43, 9 May 2010 (UTC). It´s the old turkish currency, they crossed out a few zeros on the new currency, still dubious I think? RGDS Alexmcfire
anyway why in Turkish liras?!Put either euro, dollars or rubles
78.37.204.134 (
talk)
11:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely there is something to be said for Mi-8's use in the former USSR and the Russian Federation?! 120.20.246.99 ( talk) 09:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I have recently added a lot of detail the the development of the Mi-8 based on a documentary and some russian sources, and have found a few inaccuracies in dates. I do not have time to citate the content I have added as yet, but plan to return in the next 48 hours and add a ton of citations. The Mi-8 has quite an interesting story as Mil wanted to create his dream helicopter and manipulated people through smart politics to get it built in the end - albeit with the hind doors and tail from the Mi-4. I have not edited on wiki before so hopefully the content is relevant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgbcE-fVME Wbrodie ( talk) 09:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I see your point and I was concious of this as I was writing it. I have collected up a number of sources that agree. I am looking for a few more then I will add the citations as the current ones arn't from great sources. :) The documentary could to be more reliable than any western book as it was originally in Russian for their state TV and has various archival footage and interviews with people actually involved in the design and production of the aircraft which corroborate the facts. Wbrodie ( talk) 15:19, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
I have added a few citations, in doing so discovered another date for the maiden flight, on a government website for the Czech Republic. I therefore removed the date and just stated the month. Would this be the best way to go about this issue? I have been unable to find anything other than the video mentioned above that goes into the politics behind the aircraft much other than what was on the Mil website. I believe I still need to cite that it was the soviet presidents reaction the the American Marine One aircraft that was used as leverage by Mil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbrodie ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
19 Vietnamese soldiers died in the crash
http://wireupdate.com/military-helicopter-crashes-near-vietnams-capital-killing-19.html
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/society/106865/19-soldiers-died-in-hanoi-helicopter-crash.html
Rajmaan ( talk) 20:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
you missed an important user the Syrian regime has at least a few Mi8s as well. on March 19, 2013 Syrian rebels seceded in shooting one down at Menagh Airbase in Aleppo Provence. (note this base was overrun by rebels on 6 August 2013) http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/downed-aircraft/mi-8-downed-over-menagh-airbase/2238060741001/ http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-syria-crisis-airport-idUSBRE97411J20130805 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.245.243.173 ( talk) 23:33, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
mount a flexible 12.7 mm (0.5-inch) KV-4 machine gun in the nose
at least I am not knowing of such. Citation needed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.200.34.93 ( talk) 17:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
It seems to me like the specifications quoted do not belong to the Mi-8T, like stated, but to a different variant (It seems like the Mi-8MT to me) - source: The actual quoted Jane's book and the Russian Wikipedia. I suggest to change the description to Specifications (Mi-8MT). Wurelbum ( talk) 23:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Folks, where the discussion has disappeared in??? -- jno 11:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
The bit about the improved APU seems to have been copied out of context from the Mi-17 article. In that article it is clearly a detail about a particular batch of Czech aircraft with a Czech APU. It does not apply to other Mi-17 or Mi-8MT, and could be retrofitted to older Mi-8 types. Removed. Meggar 03:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Why is there no information on the Mi-17 varients?
Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere? Unless I missed it, I didnt see it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sargonite ( talk • contribs) 23:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I keep on hearing about this bird; the best Wikipedia result is this page. Is the 172 a completely different helo? Something else entirely? What? Sandy of the CSARs ( talk) 02:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
hehe, the irony of one of the most heavily armed soviet helicopters. On a more wikipedia/serious matter, Id truthfuly would like to know a little more about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.249.209 ( talk) 19:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Article reassessed and graded as start class. -- dashiellx ( talk) 18:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Should this be added to the article? Canada is leasing them to use in Afghanistan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.154.81 ( talk) 20:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
The reason for the aircraft to only breafly beeing in civilian register is probably because the aircraft isn't approved for civlian use. I don't have citations, sorry. Since the coastguard in Finland also performs sea-rescue missions in bad weather (Estonia accident) and the aircraft is one of the few available to have heated propblades it was decided to keep them in mil-register, and lending them to the civilian boarderguard. Something like that. 193.167.32.32 ( talk) 13:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
'Developed from the Mil Mi-4 with a larger cabin ...' Mi-4 was a copy of Si-58, with the 1,000 hp ASh-82 (M-62) piston engine in the nose. To say that Mi-8 with two turboshaft engines on the top of a three-times larger cabin was 'developed' from it is about as accurate as saying that B-52 was developed from B-17. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmachat ( talk • contribs)
According to Google, "5000 million Turkish liras" is approximately 3.2 billion U.S. dollars. This has to be wrong. M17 ( talk)M17 —Preceding undated comment added 05:43, 9 May 2010 (UTC). It´s the old turkish currency, they crossed out a few zeros on the new currency, still dubious I think? RGDS Alexmcfire
anyway why in Turkish liras?!Put either euro, dollars or rubles
78.37.204.134 (
talk)
11:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely there is something to be said for Mi-8's use in the former USSR and the Russian Federation?! 120.20.246.99 ( talk) 09:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I have recently added a lot of detail the the development of the Mi-8 based on a documentary and some russian sources, and have found a few inaccuracies in dates. I do not have time to citate the content I have added as yet, but plan to return in the next 48 hours and add a ton of citations. The Mi-8 has quite an interesting story as Mil wanted to create his dream helicopter and manipulated people through smart politics to get it built in the end - albeit with the hind doors and tail from the Mi-4. I have not edited on wiki before so hopefully the content is relevant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgbcE-fVME Wbrodie ( talk) 09:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I see your point and I was concious of this as I was writing it. I have collected up a number of sources that agree. I am looking for a few more then I will add the citations as the current ones arn't from great sources. :) The documentary could to be more reliable than any western book as it was originally in Russian for their state TV and has various archival footage and interviews with people actually involved in the design and production of the aircraft which corroborate the facts. Wbrodie ( talk) 15:19, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
I have added a few citations, in doing so discovered another date for the maiden flight, on a government website for the Czech Republic. I therefore removed the date and just stated the month. Would this be the best way to go about this issue? I have been unable to find anything other than the video mentioned above that goes into the politics behind the aircraft much other than what was on the Mil website. I believe I still need to cite that it was the soviet presidents reaction the the American Marine One aircraft that was used as leverage by Mil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbrodie ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
19 Vietnamese soldiers died in the crash
http://wireupdate.com/military-helicopter-crashes-near-vietnams-capital-killing-19.html
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/society/106865/19-soldiers-died-in-hanoi-helicopter-crash.html
Rajmaan ( talk) 20:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
you missed an important user the Syrian regime has at least a few Mi8s as well. on March 19, 2013 Syrian rebels seceded in shooting one down at Menagh Airbase in Aleppo Provence. (note this base was overrun by rebels on 6 August 2013) http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/downed-aircraft/mi-8-downed-over-menagh-airbase/2238060741001/ http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-syria-crisis-airport-idUSBRE97411J20130805 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.245.243.173 ( talk) 23:33, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
mount a flexible 12.7 mm (0.5-inch) KV-4 machine gun in the nose
at least I am not knowing of such. Citation needed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.200.34.93 ( talk) 17:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
It seems to me like the specifications quoted do not belong to the Mi-8T, like stated, but to a different variant (It seems like the Mi-8MT to me) - source: The actual quoted Jane's book and the Russian Wikipedia. I suggest to change the description to Specifications (Mi-8MT). Wurelbum ( talk) 23:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)