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I've removed this part:
It's silly. Bayesian networks and Bayesian filtering are standard techniques in artificial intelligence. Though there is obviously a connection to the historical work of Bayes, saying that this work is "based on [his] theories" neglects all the intermediate work.
It would be equivalent to saying that the construction of the Chunnel was "based on the ideas of English mathematician Issac Newton". -- Saforrest 21:08, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I get the ideal but your comment is not very accurate he was actually a research fellow at Cambridge and worked on Bayesian INFERENCE a method that developed extensively in the early nineties well beyond simple Bayesian Filtering and Networks and what was known earlier. To get a PhD you have to do orgignal work . To know more do a literature search on Dr P J Rayner of the University who ran the group at that time, its interesting stuff
Does anyone know what he meant in the CNBC interview that Autonomy could have turned into something more interesting than Google if they had focussed on search in the late 1990s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.199.99.70 ( talk) 11:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Someone else has tagged the article as looking like a resume. I agree. No doubt Lynch is successful. I removed some claims about how amazing he is where they could not possibly be backed up. This is not to diminish Lynch's success, but rather, the article is more believable if it reads less like a resume. Here are the claims I removed:
Not clear who considers him like this, or why this is important.
How do we know what most students do? Why is his "rare" choice of what he did in his second year at university at all relevant? (is it supposed to be the sign of genius?!)
I really doubt this, and we'd need a proper reference, rather than heresay in a newspaper.
The article cited says "...said Lynch, the closest thing Britain has to its own Bill Gates." That is not necessarily a "favourable comparison". I read it as meaning that there is no one like Bill Gates in Britain. In any case it's just a throw-away remark, it's only been made once by a journalist, and it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the first paragraph.
I also don't understand the anecdote in the section "Entrepreneurial career" and propose to delete that bit. ComputScientist ( talk) 08:20, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
You might not like the guy but the Gates comaprison is in multiple of the references and he is probably currently the msot sucessful technology entrepreneur out of the UK (there aren't many) surely the intro should make this point??? After all he went from start up to creating the UK's largest software business.
Dormskirk I put effort into adding other roles and added other bits so please do not just revert, thats just lazy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.33.187 ( talk) 15:20, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Surely the notable thing aboutt he guy is that he probably the most sucessful tech entrepreneur out of the UK. The comparison is 'the nearest thing Britain has to Bill gates' not that he is Bill gates. Are you saying he is not in the top 2 of European software entrepreneurs....all the references seem to say he is execeptionally sucessful? Surely the summary needs to refelct this?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.33.187 ( talk) 18:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
now this is getting silly, there are a significant number of references supporting this in the item and many more can be added, its not one journalist's view. Other than a large body of coverage from quality news sources what fact would support that he is to date the msot sucessful UK software entrepreneur...on that basis why are you so sure about any fact...is Bill Gates sucessful, how do we know this is not from a large number of news sources , earnings announcements from microsoft etc.... How many references do you want..please be specific and from which sources will you arbitrarily accept, the UK's premier newspapers and the FT don't seem good enough for you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.33.187 ( talk) 19:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Added section about HP writedown due to accounting irregularities NBeddoe ( talk) 14:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Although this deserves a mention, I don't think we can carefully document the full details of the case here, nor keep on top of it. So I propose to keep it brief and neutral. ComputScientist ( talk) 14:09, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry Dormskirk didn't know the talk page etiquette. But while I'm here are the oracle and cazenove points big enough for the article, especially as Quattrone resolved the oracle controversy?...what are your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.223.163 ( talk) 21:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
I think one analyst giving a one line quote in an article after the fact does not seem worthy of a section heading or even mention.
On Quattrone if you read the articles Quattrone was not acting for Lynch when he sent the presentation to oracle but he was trying to suggest an idea to them. He only starts acting for Autonomy months later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.223.163 ( talk) 07:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
An anonymous editor wants to put that Lynch is first and foremost a scientist. Lynch does not describe himself in this way in his bio at his website, http://autonomyaccounts.org/biography/ . I would say that Lynch has made substantial contributions to science but I cannot find evidence that he is an active scientist, according to the definition at scientist. The Royal Society criteria for fellows does not use the word scientist ( https://royalsociety.org/about-us/fellowship/election/). ComputScientist ( talk) 05:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC) The citation at the FRS is about his work in machine learning and pattern recognition, he is also published so I think this is now a good compromise.TO be an FRS you have to be a royal or an eminent scientist, he is not a royal. For the disputes section I am not sure if the Oracle thing deserves mention so I was going to delete it but for now I just stopped it being a section in its own right...thoughts? should it go completely? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.197.239.30 ( talk) 10:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
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This section contains numerous immaterial or poorly sourced accolades.
The BIMA Hall of Fame does not list Mike Lynch as a member having been inducted in 2012. [1]
There is no source for the statement "He was named Entrepreneur of the Year in 1999 by the Confederation of British Industry." The linked source indicates that a "Dr M Lynch" received an achievement award (not an outstanding achievement award) from the IIE in 1996, but makes no mention of any awards being granted by the Confederation of British Industry in 1999.
The link to the time magazine source is dead, but an archived page indicates that "Time Digital Europe" included Mike Lynch as one the "Digital 25," an "A-List [featuring] 25 people who will change the way you work, phone and play." While notable, this is not quite the same as saying "Time magazine named Lynch in their 25 most influential technology people in Europe in 2000" because Time Digital Europe is a subdivision of Time Magazine and the article does not explicitly state that the names listed are the most influential technology people.
The linked source for The World Economic Forum is dead. An archive of the linked source does not seem to support this claim. The World Economic Forum does not describe this program as an award, but rather as a "global community of start-up and growth-stage companies with the potential to significantly impact business and society through the design, development and deployment of new technologies." [2]
The "Lady Margaret Beaufort fellows" are "elected by [Christ's College] Governing Body in recognition of their commitment to the College." This does not seem to be particularly noteworthy achievement to a general public audience. [3]
The "European Technology Forum" appears to be a trade show. Again, This does not seem to be particularly noteworthy achievement to a general public audience.
Runner-up for Best investor relations by a CEO at a non-FTSE 100 company for IR Magazine UK seems to be an extremely niche accomplishment. This might be noteworthy if the subject received the accolade, but he did not.
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I've removed this part:
It's silly. Bayesian networks and Bayesian filtering are standard techniques in artificial intelligence. Though there is obviously a connection to the historical work of Bayes, saying that this work is "based on [his] theories" neglects all the intermediate work.
It would be equivalent to saying that the construction of the Chunnel was "based on the ideas of English mathematician Issac Newton". -- Saforrest 21:08, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I get the ideal but your comment is not very accurate he was actually a research fellow at Cambridge and worked on Bayesian INFERENCE a method that developed extensively in the early nineties well beyond simple Bayesian Filtering and Networks and what was known earlier. To get a PhD you have to do orgignal work . To know more do a literature search on Dr P J Rayner of the University who ran the group at that time, its interesting stuff
Does anyone know what he meant in the CNBC interview that Autonomy could have turned into something more interesting than Google if they had focussed on search in the late 1990s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.199.99.70 ( talk) 11:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Someone else has tagged the article as looking like a resume. I agree. No doubt Lynch is successful. I removed some claims about how amazing he is where they could not possibly be backed up. This is not to diminish Lynch's success, but rather, the article is more believable if it reads less like a resume. Here are the claims I removed:
Not clear who considers him like this, or why this is important.
How do we know what most students do? Why is his "rare" choice of what he did in his second year at university at all relevant? (is it supposed to be the sign of genius?!)
I really doubt this, and we'd need a proper reference, rather than heresay in a newspaper.
The article cited says "...said Lynch, the closest thing Britain has to its own Bill Gates." That is not necessarily a "favourable comparison". I read it as meaning that there is no one like Bill Gates in Britain. In any case it's just a throw-away remark, it's only been made once by a journalist, and it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the first paragraph.
I also don't understand the anecdote in the section "Entrepreneurial career" and propose to delete that bit. ComputScientist ( talk) 08:20, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
You might not like the guy but the Gates comaprison is in multiple of the references and he is probably currently the msot sucessful technology entrepreneur out of the UK (there aren't many) surely the intro should make this point??? After all he went from start up to creating the UK's largest software business.
Dormskirk I put effort into adding other roles and added other bits so please do not just revert, thats just lazy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.33.187 ( talk) 15:20, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Surely the notable thing aboutt he guy is that he probably the most sucessful tech entrepreneur out of the UK. The comparison is 'the nearest thing Britain has to Bill gates' not that he is Bill gates. Are you saying he is not in the top 2 of European software entrepreneurs....all the references seem to say he is execeptionally sucessful? Surely the summary needs to refelct this?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.33.187 ( talk) 18:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
now this is getting silly, there are a significant number of references supporting this in the item and many more can be added, its not one journalist's view. Other than a large body of coverage from quality news sources what fact would support that he is to date the msot sucessful UK software entrepreneur...on that basis why are you so sure about any fact...is Bill Gates sucessful, how do we know this is not from a large number of news sources , earnings announcements from microsoft etc.... How many references do you want..please be specific and from which sources will you arbitrarily accept, the UK's premier newspapers and the FT don't seem good enough for you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.33.187 ( talk) 19:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Added section about HP writedown due to accounting irregularities NBeddoe ( talk) 14:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Although this deserves a mention, I don't think we can carefully document the full details of the case here, nor keep on top of it. So I propose to keep it brief and neutral. ComputScientist ( talk) 14:09, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry Dormskirk didn't know the talk page etiquette. But while I'm here are the oracle and cazenove points big enough for the article, especially as Quattrone resolved the oracle controversy?...what are your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.223.163 ( talk) 21:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
I think one analyst giving a one line quote in an article after the fact does not seem worthy of a section heading or even mention.
On Quattrone if you read the articles Quattrone was not acting for Lynch when he sent the presentation to oracle but he was trying to suggest an idea to them. He only starts acting for Autonomy months later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.223.163 ( talk) 07:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
An anonymous editor wants to put that Lynch is first and foremost a scientist. Lynch does not describe himself in this way in his bio at his website, http://autonomyaccounts.org/biography/ . I would say that Lynch has made substantial contributions to science but I cannot find evidence that he is an active scientist, according to the definition at scientist. The Royal Society criteria for fellows does not use the word scientist ( https://royalsociety.org/about-us/fellowship/election/). ComputScientist ( talk) 05:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC) The citation at the FRS is about his work in machine learning and pattern recognition, he is also published so I think this is now a good compromise.TO be an FRS you have to be a royal or an eminent scientist, he is not a royal. For the disputes section I am not sure if the Oracle thing deserves mention so I was going to delete it but for now I just stopped it being a section in its own right...thoughts? should it go completely? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.197.239.30 ( talk) 10:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
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This section contains numerous immaterial or poorly sourced accolades.
The BIMA Hall of Fame does not list Mike Lynch as a member having been inducted in 2012. [1]
There is no source for the statement "He was named Entrepreneur of the Year in 1999 by the Confederation of British Industry." The linked source indicates that a "Dr M Lynch" received an achievement award (not an outstanding achievement award) from the IIE in 1996, but makes no mention of any awards being granted by the Confederation of British Industry in 1999.
The link to the time magazine source is dead, but an archived page indicates that "Time Digital Europe" included Mike Lynch as one the "Digital 25," an "A-List [featuring] 25 people who will change the way you work, phone and play." While notable, this is not quite the same as saying "Time magazine named Lynch in their 25 most influential technology people in Europe in 2000" because Time Digital Europe is a subdivision of Time Magazine and the article does not explicitly state that the names listed are the most influential technology people.
The linked source for The World Economic Forum is dead. An archive of the linked source does not seem to support this claim. The World Economic Forum does not describe this program as an award, but rather as a "global community of start-up and growth-stage companies with the potential to significantly impact business and society through the design, development and deployment of new technologies." [2]
The "Lady Margaret Beaufort fellows" are "elected by [Christ's College] Governing Body in recognition of their commitment to the College." This does not seem to be particularly noteworthy achievement to a general public audience. [3]
The "European Technology Forum" appears to be a trade show. Again, This does not seem to be particularly noteworthy achievement to a general public audience.
Runner-up for Best investor relations by a CEO at a non-FTSE 100 company for IR Magazine UK seems to be an extremely niche accomplishment. This might be noteworthy if the subject received the accolade, but he did not.
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Should not the title be changed to "Mike Lynch" as that is the name he is most recognised by?