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Howdy. So I have had nothing but trouble trying to get this article going. I asked to have a discussion on the tp before further action was taken, but that was ignored so I'll do it. Looking at WP:TOOSOON, the article does meet the necessary requirements. It has been widely covered by the media, there is an event being planned and Huckabee is certainly a notable guy. I think this is more a matter of WP:ITJ- the article is a stub (and it's difficult to lengthen it when it's constantly being sent back to a revert) and it certainly needs improvement prior to the announcement. But I don't think we would have to have the discussion if the article were longer. The next relevant policy, WP:UPANDCOMING, also does not count for this article. I'm not saying "this will be a big thing"- it is a big thing. And, yeah, if we delete it now, we WILL absolutely, without a doubt need to bring it back in about 2 weeks, but there is more to it. We will be missing out on a good deal of important coverage. We also need to consider what we've done in the past. With both Clinton and Rubio, we created articles almost as soon as word of announcement came and there were already pretty large articles before the announcement. There were well-viewed and it was important to have that foundation. Finally, I would like to apologize. Without realizing it, I broke the WP:3RR. I didn't think about it until I looked at the article's history just now. Now, all of everything considered, what should we do? Should we keep the article or redirect? PrairieKid ( talk) 16:48, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I think PrairieKid has a made a solid case for letting the article stand on its own. The sources strongly suggest that a Huckabee candidacy is inevitable. On the other hand, I understand that the announcement is still 2 weeks away so it does seem a little soon to start an article about a campaign that hasn't officially started yet. Is it doable to temporarily name the article "Mike Huckabee impending presidential campaign, 2016" then remove "impending" from the title after the announcement is made? That might make for a "happy medium". Just an idea.-- Pnu15 ( talk) 19:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't think this is academic. There is nothing in this article about the campaign, other than it exists. It is still too soon for an article imho. SPACKlick ( talk) 12:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
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According to The Green Papers, Huckabee placed 9th among Republicans in the primary with 51,450 votes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.2.38.14 ( talk) 03:17, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Howdy. So I have had nothing but trouble trying to get this article going. I asked to have a discussion on the tp before further action was taken, but that was ignored so I'll do it. Looking at WP:TOOSOON, the article does meet the necessary requirements. It has been widely covered by the media, there is an event being planned and Huckabee is certainly a notable guy. I think this is more a matter of WP:ITJ- the article is a stub (and it's difficult to lengthen it when it's constantly being sent back to a revert) and it certainly needs improvement prior to the announcement. But I don't think we would have to have the discussion if the article were longer. The next relevant policy, WP:UPANDCOMING, also does not count for this article. I'm not saying "this will be a big thing"- it is a big thing. And, yeah, if we delete it now, we WILL absolutely, without a doubt need to bring it back in about 2 weeks, but there is more to it. We will be missing out on a good deal of important coverage. We also need to consider what we've done in the past. With both Clinton and Rubio, we created articles almost as soon as word of announcement came and there were already pretty large articles before the announcement. There were well-viewed and it was important to have that foundation. Finally, I would like to apologize. Without realizing it, I broke the WP:3RR. I didn't think about it until I looked at the article's history just now. Now, all of everything considered, what should we do? Should we keep the article or redirect? PrairieKid ( talk) 16:48, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I think PrairieKid has a made a solid case for letting the article stand on its own. The sources strongly suggest that a Huckabee candidacy is inevitable. On the other hand, I understand that the announcement is still 2 weeks away so it does seem a little soon to start an article about a campaign that hasn't officially started yet. Is it doable to temporarily name the article "Mike Huckabee impending presidential campaign, 2016" then remove "impending" from the title after the announcement is made? That might make for a "happy medium". Just an idea.-- Pnu15 ( talk) 19:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't think this is academic. There is nothing in this article about the campaign, other than it exists. It is still too soon for an article imho. SPACKlick ( talk) 12:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
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According to The Green Papers, Huckabee placed 9th among Republicans in the primary with 51,450 votes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.2.38.14 ( talk) 03:17, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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