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The quote is from the Sasson Report where it is said "המידע שלהלן נמסר לי על ידי מי שכיהן אותו זמן כמח"ט בנימין." - The information below was given to me by the person who was the Binyamin Brigade commander at the time. Then comes the part that is in quotes, since it is taken from the report. Hence sentence "According to the Sasson Report, based on the brigade commander of the area, and then the quote from the report. Writing "The Sasson Report claims that the brigade commander of the area related that" belittles the Sasson report. While the terms "claim" does not always carry a negative connotation, in this instance it clearly does and hence my phrasing is superior. Mashkin ( talk) 23:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
When the reprot says that the material is based on the what someone says and you label it as the reprot claims that it is based on that person testimony, then you are casting doubt on whether it is faithful. Mashkin ( talk) 22:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much prominence we want to give the new section relative to the rest of the article, in the wake of yesterday's Supreme Court ruling. Reactions to it have been extensive, made even more pronounced because of all the protests in the country against the government's economic policy. I added reactions critical of the ruling from three high-profile figures but have also come across statements applauding it. There is also this reaction from Avi Roeh, head of the Mateh Binyamin Regional Council, accusing the Supreme Court of exploiting Migron in order to divert attention from an investigation into the conduct of one of its judges and to score PR points. He also insists that the land Migron is on belongs to Metah Binyamin. I'll hold off on any more additions for now, though, to see where other editors take the section.— Biosketch ( talk) 11:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=236048. 216.207.189.2 ( talk) 04:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
The following sections refer to this settlement being built on private PAlestinian land. The references to the Sassoon report, And the Land ownership section, And the evacuation orders section, and the supreme court section. Therefore the article refers to this settlement being illegal under Israeli law. The phrase unauthorized is therfore not accurate, and the phrase illegal must be used. Dalai lama ding dong ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC).
...summarizing the Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court ruling story in the JPost source in a balanced way.
I think it needs a bit more balancing to present both versions in the same way. Perhaps some more sources will turn up too. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC) ...and Shuki, you can rewrite it without it being a 1RR as long as no one else edits it first. I can't. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:50, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Dalai lama ding dong reverted an edit arguing that the claim that the Palestinians failed to provide proof of ownership isn't in the RS cited. The claim is there in the 4th, 12th and 13th paragraphs of the article: "... the Palestinians withdrew their claim at the moment in the process when they had to provide proof of land ownership." "The fact that it came at the point in the legal process where proof of ownership was required was coincidental, he said." "Proof of ownership had to be given to the court when the civil suit was first filed, Zachary added." Is it the attribution to Zachary that's the problem?— Biosketch ( talk) 09:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Here is what the court said, according to JPost: There is no basis to the claim that the plaintiff’s lack evidence to prove their rights to the land. Again, no basis for the claim that the plaintiff's lack evidence. Saying in the article that the plaintiff's lakc evidence directly contradicts what the court said. nableezy - 20:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC) The court merely ruled that the absence of proof brought before court was not a proof that no evidence existed (in my opinion extremely dubious, but I understand why you wouldn't want to doubt the court's ruling on wikipedia). Even the court did not rule over proof of ownership (the high court doesn't deal with this as mentioned), but told the government that since it was their position that the land belonged to Arabs and therefore illegal, they must destroy it. All of this is clear even from the article in Haaretz, not exactly known for right-wing views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.117.28.228 ( talk) 11:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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The quote is from the Sasson Report where it is said "המידע שלהלן נמסר לי על ידי מי שכיהן אותו זמן כמח"ט בנימין." - The information below was given to me by the person who was the Binyamin Brigade commander at the time. Then comes the part that is in quotes, since it is taken from the report. Hence sentence "According to the Sasson Report, based on the brigade commander of the area, and then the quote from the report. Writing "The Sasson Report claims that the brigade commander of the area related that" belittles the Sasson report. While the terms "claim" does not always carry a negative connotation, in this instance it clearly does and hence my phrasing is superior. Mashkin ( talk) 23:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
When the reprot says that the material is based on the what someone says and you label it as the reprot claims that it is based on that person testimony, then you are casting doubt on whether it is faithful. Mashkin ( talk) 22:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much prominence we want to give the new section relative to the rest of the article, in the wake of yesterday's Supreme Court ruling. Reactions to it have been extensive, made even more pronounced because of all the protests in the country against the government's economic policy. I added reactions critical of the ruling from three high-profile figures but have also come across statements applauding it. There is also this reaction from Avi Roeh, head of the Mateh Binyamin Regional Council, accusing the Supreme Court of exploiting Migron in order to divert attention from an investigation into the conduct of one of its judges and to score PR points. He also insists that the land Migron is on belongs to Metah Binyamin. I'll hold off on any more additions for now, though, to see where other editors take the section.— Biosketch ( talk) 11:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=236048. 216.207.189.2 ( talk) 04:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
The following sections refer to this settlement being built on private PAlestinian land. The references to the Sassoon report, And the Land ownership section, And the evacuation orders section, and the supreme court section. Therefore the article refers to this settlement being illegal under Israeli law. The phrase unauthorized is therfore not accurate, and the phrase illegal must be used. Dalai lama ding dong ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC).
...summarizing the Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court ruling story in the JPost source in a balanced way.
I think it needs a bit more balancing to present both versions in the same way. Perhaps some more sources will turn up too. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC) ...and Shuki, you can rewrite it without it being a 1RR as long as no one else edits it first. I can't. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:50, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Dalai lama ding dong reverted an edit arguing that the claim that the Palestinians failed to provide proof of ownership isn't in the RS cited. The claim is there in the 4th, 12th and 13th paragraphs of the article: "... the Palestinians withdrew their claim at the moment in the process when they had to provide proof of land ownership." "The fact that it came at the point in the legal process where proof of ownership was required was coincidental, he said." "Proof of ownership had to be given to the court when the civil suit was first filed, Zachary added." Is it the attribution to Zachary that's the problem?— Biosketch ( talk) 09:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Here is what the court said, according to JPost: There is no basis to the claim that the plaintiff’s lack evidence to prove their rights to the land. Again, no basis for the claim that the plaintiff's lack evidence. Saying in the article that the plaintiff's lakc evidence directly contradicts what the court said. nableezy - 20:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC) The court merely ruled that the absence of proof brought before court was not a proof that no evidence existed (in my opinion extremely dubious, but I understand why you wouldn't want to doubt the court's ruling on wikipedia). Even the court did not rule over proof of ownership (the high court doesn't deal with this as mentioned), but told the government that since it was their position that the land belonged to Arabs and therefore illegal, they must destroy it. All of this is clear even from the article in Haaretz, not exactly known for right-wing views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.117.28.228 ( talk) 11:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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