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At the moment of my (expanding and article-creating) edit of 4 July 2015, I ought to have mentioned that I also removed some information from the old version of Calais#Recent migrants-problem, but I forgot to mention that, and I apologize for that:
I hope, someone will take up the challenge to integrate, merge, the two articles and one article-section which now seem to cover largely the same events and topic: Migrants around Calais, Calais jungle and Channel Tunnel#Asylum and immigration. At the moment, and for some time coming, I don't have the time to do that myself. If all correct and relevant information gets put together in one complete article, then Channel Tunnel#Asylum and immigration can be replaced with a short summary, referring to that (new) main article. -- Corriebertus ( talk) 12:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
I disagree that Migrants around Calais and Calais jungle should be merged. The former should be about the activities, routes and motivations of the migrants, whereas the latter is only concerned about what happens in the camp(s), what facilities there are and such. There is a distinction, since people migrating through Calais may not necessarily live in the Jungle, and not everyone in and around the Jungle is a migrant. Besides, there's enough information to fill the Calais Jungle article, and some of that isn't very relevant to the other two article, like the placement sanitary facilities in year X. Migrants around Calais and Calais migrant crisis (1999–present) seem like a good merge though. Pieceofmetalwork ( talk) 19:55, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems obvious to me that we should merge Calais migrant crisis and Migrants around Calais into a single article. Do others agree, and, if so, what should the resulting article be titled? I would prefer "Calais migrant crisis" as that is less ambiguous than "Migrants around Calais" and seems to match use in media coverage. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Philafrenzy ( talk) 12:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Having just come across these articles, my initial reaction was that all three could be merged into one. But User:Pranman above makes the point that there's at least two separate topics here, one on the longstanding issue of migrant/refugee camps around Calais, and one on the developments in 2015 that saw the numbers there increasing considerably. Based on that approach, I'd suggest Calais jungle could be merged with Migrants around Calais to be a single article about the history of migrant camps in the area, while Calais migrant crisis could be kept as an article solely about recent events and the current situation. Robofish ( talk) 16:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
It has been ten months since a possible merger was first mentioned. What is the consensus? It would be good to get this issue resolved. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:04, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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I propose that Calais blockade be merged into Migrants around Calais, because of the modest new information in 'Blockade,' and the existing subsection in 'Migrants.' The text itself overlaps. The 'Migrants' article is of a reasonable size that the merge will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. PLawrence99cx ( talk) 21:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
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I'm going to attempt a restructure of this article to attempt to remove duplication, to bring the focus more directly onto the subject, and to give cohesion to the various sections currently in the article (mostly by bringing a group of them under a "History" heading). -- Woofboy ( talk) 18:17, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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At the moment of my (expanding and article-creating) edit of 4 July 2015, I ought to have mentioned that I also removed some information from the old version of Calais#Recent migrants-problem, but I forgot to mention that, and I apologize for that:
I hope, someone will take up the challenge to integrate, merge, the two articles and one article-section which now seem to cover largely the same events and topic: Migrants around Calais, Calais jungle and Channel Tunnel#Asylum and immigration. At the moment, and for some time coming, I don't have the time to do that myself. If all correct and relevant information gets put together in one complete article, then Channel Tunnel#Asylum and immigration can be replaced with a short summary, referring to that (new) main article. -- Corriebertus ( talk) 12:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
I disagree that Migrants around Calais and Calais jungle should be merged. The former should be about the activities, routes and motivations of the migrants, whereas the latter is only concerned about what happens in the camp(s), what facilities there are and such. There is a distinction, since people migrating through Calais may not necessarily live in the Jungle, and not everyone in and around the Jungle is a migrant. Besides, there's enough information to fill the Calais Jungle article, and some of that isn't very relevant to the other two article, like the placement sanitary facilities in year X. Migrants around Calais and Calais migrant crisis (1999–present) seem like a good merge though. Pieceofmetalwork ( talk) 19:55, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems obvious to me that we should merge Calais migrant crisis and Migrants around Calais into a single article. Do others agree, and, if so, what should the resulting article be titled? I would prefer "Calais migrant crisis" as that is less ambiguous than "Migrants around Calais" and seems to match use in media coverage. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Philafrenzy ( talk) 12:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Having just come across these articles, my initial reaction was that all three could be merged into one. But User:Pranman above makes the point that there's at least two separate topics here, one on the longstanding issue of migrant/refugee camps around Calais, and one on the developments in 2015 that saw the numbers there increasing considerably. Based on that approach, I'd suggest Calais jungle could be merged with Migrants around Calais to be a single article about the history of migrant camps in the area, while Calais migrant crisis could be kept as an article solely about recent events and the current situation. Robofish ( talk) 16:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
It has been ten months since a possible merger was first mentioned. What is the consensus? It would be good to get this issue resolved. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:04, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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I propose that Calais blockade be merged into Migrants around Calais, because of the modest new information in 'Blockade,' and the existing subsection in 'Migrants.' The text itself overlaps. The 'Migrants' article is of a reasonable size that the merge will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. PLawrence99cx ( talk) 21:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
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I'm going to attempt a restructure of this article to attempt to remove duplication, to bring the focus more directly onto the subject, and to give cohesion to the various sections currently in the article (mostly by bringing a group of them under a "History" heading). -- Woofboy ( talk) 18:17, 7 March 2020 (UTC)