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It needs a more in-depth meteorological synopsis section, and more impact. Also, I think the highest amounts of precip by state would be a good addition. Juliancolton ( talk) 19:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
And again, 27 people who have lost their lives is a very serious and unusual occurence, even for the midwest. Juliancolton ( talk) 13:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I've separated the impacts for the northeast from those coming from the ice. Not sure if it is the best way or we could separate the effects per region instead.-- JForget 02:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it looks good. I just think there should be a highest snowfall by state table. By the way, I just got in from shoveling my driveway in southeast New York. We got 9 inches. I don't know if that should be mentioned in the article in the form of say, Snowfall amounts vary from place to place, with some areas, especially in southeastern New York and adjacent New England, recived up to 10 inches Juliancolton ( talk) 02:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Why are the winter weather advisories listed in this article? I hope we don't include this next storm in this article. Juliancolton ( talk) 21:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. This storm is heading towards southern Ontario, Quebec, and Atlantic Canada. Up to 16 inches of snow is expected. Why does this article not even mention that it is approaching Canada? Or do we wait until it passes over Canada to update info? Check any weather forecast and you'll see it's approaching Canada. Why not even a short sentence mentioning this? Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 13:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I think going with everyone elses objections supra, this article needs some major work (including splitting, renaming). It's 1:30 in the morning here though, I need sleep. Perhaps I'll look through this during tomorrow's (technically today's) storm. Raj Fra 06:31, 16 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raj Fra ( talk • contribs)
Despite several areas receiving well over a foot of snow including my area, the impacts were minimal aside from cancelled flights and events. Only 5 fatalities so far from the storm and very few power outages except in PA. I propose to rename the article Mid-December 2007 North American Winter storms (mid because of the previous December article from the series of storms from November 29 to December 4) that would include the storms from December 8 to December 17 and we could do a large article with it. It's unfortunate though that few editors participated in contributions here - maybe if it was place in the Main Page, it could have made a difference (i.e the February winter storm made it to the main page). -- JForget 00:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Just to answer User:Incubusman27's comment above Those are the amounts as of 4 PM for Ontario (however other then Windsor the storm is still ongoing and still with moderate snow in eastern Ontario. I'm putting this list now because last time EC did not put a final tally report on the December 1-3 storm while most of Ontario east of Toronto still had accumulated snows on-going.
Windsor.............21 cm London..............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well St cattherines......13 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Grimsby mtn.........21 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Hamilton............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Toronto downtown....26 cm thunder/lightning/ice pellets as well Pearson airport.....18 cm ice pellets as well Markham.............23 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Downsview...........20 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Wiarton.............27 cm Minden..............25 cm Orillia.............25 cm Coldwater...........20 cm Cornwall............32 cm Trenton.............17 cm Ottawa airport......29 cm Gatineau............20 cm -- JForget 00:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Update as of 10 PM Windsor.............21 cm London..............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well St cattherines......13 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Grimsby mtn.........26 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Niagara Escarpment..26 cm Hamilton............24 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Toronto downtown....26 cm thunder/lightning/ice pellets as Toronto riverdale...30 cm Pearson airport.....18 cm ice pellets as well Markham.............23 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Downsview...........20 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Wiarton.............27 cm Minden..............25 cm Orillia.............25 cm Coldwater...........20 cm Cornwall............45 cm Trenton.............20 cm Ottawa airport......34 cm Gatineau............29 cm Embrun/Russell......50 cm Cornwall............45 cm JForget 03:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
3 AM for Ontario and Quebec Windsor.............21 cm London..............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well St cattherines......13 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Grimsby mtn.........26 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Niagara Escarpment..32 cm Hamilton............24 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Toronto downtown....26 cm thunder/lightning/ice pellets as Toronto riverdale...30 cm Pearson airport.....18 cm ice pellets as well Mono Mills..........21 cm Markham.............23 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Downsview...........20 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Wiarton.............27 cm Minden..............25 cm Orillia.............25 cm Coldwater...........20 cm Cornwall............45 cm Trenton.............20 cm Ottawa airport......37 cm Gatineau............32 cm Embrun/Russell......50 cm Cornwall............50 cm
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5 AM Nova Scotia and PEI
Halifax stanfield airport 13.5 Halifax - Clayton park 16 Halifax - pockwock lake 15 * Shearwater 10.4 * Yarmouth 9.4 Greenwood 6.2 Western Head 4 ** Kejimujik 20 ** Kentville 16 ** Parrsboro 14 ** Debert 10 ** Upper stewiacke 7 ** Nappan 14 ** Tracadie ** 17 Sydney 14.4
Charlottetown 15.8 East Point 6 ** Summerside 11 ** North Cape 6 **
8 AM New Brunswick
Moncton 23 Mechanic settlement 17 Saint John 23 Sackville** 10 Fredericton 21 Saint Léonard 34 Bathurst 28 -- JForget 13:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Now that the storms are done, except for maybe a Christmas storm, should I take it out of current? Juliancolton ( talk) 16:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
On the article for Tropical Storm Olga, there is a debate about whether Olga's remnants or this storm is responsible for the damage in the Southeast (IMO, this storm is - Olga had already merged with the cold front and the moisture helped amplify the system, but that is disputed). Olga's TCR may change this article a bit (since if that had merged, this was responsible, otherwise Olga was).
Also, looking at the weather maps at OPC, this system is still very powerful in the north Atlantic - if this continues to be strong to Europe, how should this be treated? CrazyC83 ( talk) 04:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
There are only few GA winter storm articles, and few articles that are as good as this one. JForget, do you want to GAN it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliancolton ( talk • contribs) 13:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone considered moving this article to Mid-December 2007 North American Winter storm sequence, similar to a tornado outbreak sequence? I believe this would be appropriate, and in fact, better. Southern Illinois SKYWARN ( talk) 23:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I increased the amount recorded at Downtown Toronto from 26cm to 33cm. My source is Environment Canada ( http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=CA&StationID=5051&Year=2007&Month=12&Day=6) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.164.105 ( talk) 16:28, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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It needs a more in-depth meteorological synopsis section, and more impact. Also, I think the highest amounts of precip by state would be a good addition. Juliancolton ( talk) 19:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
And again, 27 people who have lost their lives is a very serious and unusual occurence, even for the midwest. Juliancolton ( talk) 13:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I've separated the impacts for the northeast from those coming from the ice. Not sure if it is the best way or we could separate the effects per region instead.-- JForget 02:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it looks good. I just think there should be a highest snowfall by state table. By the way, I just got in from shoveling my driveway in southeast New York. We got 9 inches. I don't know if that should be mentioned in the article in the form of say, Snowfall amounts vary from place to place, with some areas, especially in southeastern New York and adjacent New England, recived up to 10 inches Juliancolton ( talk) 02:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Why are the winter weather advisories listed in this article? I hope we don't include this next storm in this article. Juliancolton ( talk) 21:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. This storm is heading towards southern Ontario, Quebec, and Atlantic Canada. Up to 16 inches of snow is expected. Why does this article not even mention that it is approaching Canada? Or do we wait until it passes over Canada to update info? Check any weather forecast and you'll see it's approaching Canada. Why not even a short sentence mentioning this? Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 13:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I think going with everyone elses objections supra, this article needs some major work (including splitting, renaming). It's 1:30 in the morning here though, I need sleep. Perhaps I'll look through this during tomorrow's (technically today's) storm. Raj Fra 06:31, 16 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raj Fra ( talk • contribs)
Despite several areas receiving well over a foot of snow including my area, the impacts were minimal aside from cancelled flights and events. Only 5 fatalities so far from the storm and very few power outages except in PA. I propose to rename the article Mid-December 2007 North American Winter storms (mid because of the previous December article from the series of storms from November 29 to December 4) that would include the storms from December 8 to December 17 and we could do a large article with it. It's unfortunate though that few editors participated in contributions here - maybe if it was place in the Main Page, it could have made a difference (i.e the February winter storm made it to the main page). -- JForget 00:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Just to answer User:Incubusman27's comment above Those are the amounts as of 4 PM for Ontario (however other then Windsor the storm is still ongoing and still with moderate snow in eastern Ontario. I'm putting this list now because last time EC did not put a final tally report on the December 1-3 storm while most of Ontario east of Toronto still had accumulated snows on-going.
Windsor.............21 cm London..............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well St cattherines......13 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Grimsby mtn.........21 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Hamilton............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Toronto downtown....26 cm thunder/lightning/ice pellets as well Pearson airport.....18 cm ice pellets as well Markham.............23 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Downsview...........20 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Wiarton.............27 cm Minden..............25 cm Orillia.............25 cm Coldwater...........20 cm Cornwall............32 cm Trenton.............17 cm Ottawa airport......29 cm Gatineau............20 cm -- JForget 00:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Update as of 10 PM Windsor.............21 cm London..............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well St cattherines......13 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Grimsby mtn.........26 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Niagara Escarpment..26 cm Hamilton............24 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Toronto downtown....26 cm thunder/lightning/ice pellets as Toronto riverdale...30 cm Pearson airport.....18 cm ice pellets as well Markham.............23 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Downsview...........20 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Wiarton.............27 cm Minden..............25 cm Orillia.............25 cm Coldwater...........20 cm Cornwall............45 cm Trenton.............20 cm Ottawa airport......34 cm Gatineau............29 cm Embrun/Russell......50 cm Cornwall............45 cm JForget 03:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
3 AM for Ontario and Quebec Windsor.............21 cm London..............16 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well St cattherines......13 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Grimsby mtn.........26 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Niagara Escarpment..32 cm Hamilton............24 cm ice pellets and freezing rain as well Toronto downtown....26 cm thunder/lightning/ice pellets as Toronto riverdale...30 cm Pearson airport.....18 cm ice pellets as well Mono Mills..........21 cm Markham.............23 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Downsview...........20 cm ice pellets briefly mixed Wiarton.............27 cm Minden..............25 cm Orillia.............25 cm Coldwater...........20 cm Cornwall............45 cm Trenton.............20 cm Ottawa airport......37 cm Gatineau............32 cm Embrun/Russell......50 cm Cornwall............50 cm
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5 AM Nova Scotia and PEI
Halifax stanfield airport 13.5 Halifax - Clayton park 16 Halifax - pockwock lake 15 * Shearwater 10.4 * Yarmouth 9.4 Greenwood 6.2 Western Head 4 ** Kejimujik 20 ** Kentville 16 ** Parrsboro 14 ** Debert 10 ** Upper stewiacke 7 ** Nappan 14 ** Tracadie ** 17 Sydney 14.4
Charlottetown 15.8 East Point 6 ** Summerside 11 ** North Cape 6 **
8 AM New Brunswick
Moncton 23 Mechanic settlement 17 Saint John 23 Sackville** 10 Fredericton 21 Saint Léonard 34 Bathurst 28 -- JForget 13:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Now that the storms are done, except for maybe a Christmas storm, should I take it out of current? Juliancolton ( talk) 16:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
On the article for Tropical Storm Olga, there is a debate about whether Olga's remnants or this storm is responsible for the damage in the Southeast (IMO, this storm is - Olga had already merged with the cold front and the moisture helped amplify the system, but that is disputed). Olga's TCR may change this article a bit (since if that had merged, this was responsible, otherwise Olga was).
Also, looking at the weather maps at OPC, this system is still very powerful in the north Atlantic - if this continues to be strong to Europe, how should this be treated? CrazyC83 ( talk) 04:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
There are only few GA winter storm articles, and few articles that are as good as this one. JForget, do you want to GAN it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliancolton ( talk • contribs) 13:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone considered moving this article to Mid-December 2007 North American Winter storm sequence, similar to a tornado outbreak sequence? I believe this would be appropriate, and in fact, better. Southern Illinois SKYWARN ( talk) 23:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I increased the amount recorded at Downtown Toronto from 26cm to 33cm. My source is Environment Canada ( http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=CA&StationID=5051&Year=2007&Month=12&Day=6) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.164.105 ( talk) 16:28, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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