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I have the damned thing set to "200px" but it's still so huge! WTF?! --NLUT
I think Microsoft should bundle GIMP with Windows.
Shouldn't we mention the Z-Soft heritage somewhere. I'm quite sure the original Paintbrush for Windows was developed by them. They were previously producing PC Paintbrush, a drawing program for DOS. R4p70r 02:48, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
In the magnafying option, click on 8x. Then if you click below it like one pixel more, you can magnify 10x. Can we put that in this article?-- 198.147.225.76 00:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Now if only you could figure out how to get 4x in the dropdown instead of having to up and pick "large size"...
Where is this 8x option? I only have view > zoom > custom > 100%, 200%, 400%, 600%, 800% and they're radio buttons. What version are you talking about?
This article mentions the SHIFT key to be used for the "Trail Mode" in the selection of the image but the SHIFT key has other functions:
I'll add them to the article later but I'd have to clean it up first. -- TKGB 00:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Does the new Windows Vista will have a new version of Paint? MarioV 21:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
–Yes, it is slightly upgraded visually.
I miss the color replace tool, that was removed from the new version.
A friend of mine dropped his keyboard and said that now his pencil tool was making two-pixel wide marks instead of the regular one. Has this happened to anyone? To cure it, I just recommended he save, close, and reopen, and that fixed it, but I am still curious.
does anybody else use this as their primary source of image creation?
i put a bunch my drawings on photobucket[ [1]], and i would like to see any one elses drawings...to take tips from.
The way "trail mode" is described in this article is incorrect:
For the stamp mode, the user can select part of the image, hold the control key, and move it to another part of the canvas. This, instead of cutting the piece out, creates a copy of it. The process can be repeated as many times as desired, as long as the control key is held down. The trail mode works exactly the same, but it uses the shift key instead of the control key.
Trail mode doesn't work in the same way as stamp mode- it creates a trail of copies, not just one. I think this should be reworded.
Is Paint really capable of opening SVG images if SVG Reader is installed? Is this maybe a Vista thing? I can't get this to work on XP. J Di talk 12:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed the link to Paint.NET, as it has no association with Microsoft Paint apart from happening to have a similar name. Jibjibjib 01:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
You can have 3 colours to paint with. Simply Ctrl + click a colour on the pallet to choose your third colour. Hold down ctrl while painting to paint with your "third colour" 124.178.71.202 13:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC) dude, thats cool!
Is Paint changes the interface for Windows Vista from Windows XP? — Jigs41793 Talk 13:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
How does my image cause many potential violations? Soxrock 18:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I had the image on the article because it was supposed to show completed work on Paint. But I do see about the logos, and how they may be inappropriate and not fair use. My bad Soxrock 20:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Image:Vista Paint.png
Image:Paint Vista.png
Which of the two images to the right do you prefer? I recently uploaded the first picture to go on Features new to Windows Vista; it was removed/orphaned recently. I then put it on Paint (software) because I honestly feel it is a better image, and it was reverted by the same user. Which of these do you, the other editors of this article, think does a better job of illustrating the program and its interface? In my opinion, the one I uploaded makes a better thumbnail because it focuses on the UI and has less "dead space." Opinions? — Disavian ( talk/ contribs) 03:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
No need to use Windows Vista Paint as the first image. It's already on the page under "Versions". Replay7 18:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Well fine, if you hate me that much. Replay7 21:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Please, bring it back. Just long enough for me to save it back to my computer. Replay7 21:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
This option did exist for me but now it doesn't. I'm running full Aero display with full 32-bit depth colour so I can't understand why the option has suddenly disappeared. Any ideas? 86.148.108.242 ( talk) 15:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to download it off the net? I know it's possible for windows 95, but I haven't been able to find anything for XP... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kooolcow ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC).
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At one time you could buy Microsoft Paintbrush for DOS by itself; it was even bundled along with the Microsoft Mouse at one time. -- Edwin Herdman 19:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Paint was a new application with Windows 95. Previous versions of Windows included Paintbrush; a different application with a different codebase (licensed from ZSoft in part). Much of the history section in this article is just plain wrong. -- 82.7.199.50 14:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
It would be good if the article could clarify the relationship between Paint and PC Paintbrush. It would seem that calling the 3.1 version Paintbrush would be impossible were it not for involvement between MS and ZSoft, but memory is murky and references are few-- Lionelbrits 03:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
See when you use the Line tool while you hold down the Shift key, you can draw "straight" lines. horizontal, vertical, and diagonal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PNiddy ( talk • contribs).
When I click "just to the right" of the small brush in Vista's paint, I get an "insufficient memory" error message. So maybe it was a memory bug in the XP version which couldn't repro in Vista because of the improved memory error handling? 80.176.249.204 18:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This bug is a result of no paintbrush highlighted. I use the Windows Vista Version and whenever I click JUST TO THE RIGHT of any "brush", the one previously highlighted is no longer highlighted. Thus the computer can't complete the task of painting if there is nothing to paint with. Zippo Prower of DrunkDuck.com 10:31 PM September 22 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.119.66 ( talk) 02:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Here's a glitch I found back in around 2003 with the XP version of Paint (might happen with other versions as well). Make an image zoomed enough for the scroll bars to show, then use the Color Eraser tool (hold the right button instead of the left) to turn a matching foreground color chosen in your palette, to the background color also chosen in your palette (e.g. a black foreground color with a white 'eraser' will turn all black parts of the image white while holding the right button). If you happen to go across a scroll bar and let go of the mouse button, a menu pops up asking you if you want to scroll here. Upon closing the menu, the eraser continues to erase the color underneath the cursor without holding the button, and this 'automatic' color erasing cannot be undone since it hasn't tracked a mouse click since the scroll bar menu popped up; however, the Undo command will still undo your previous work up to when you clicked on the scroll bar, leaving the mess which the auto-erase left. The only way to stop the eraser from inadvertently removing more color data is to either click the mouse again or press the Escape key after closing the menu. 123.243.99.227 ( talk) 03:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Another bug is scrolling while erasing in XP - it produces a near-random erase path across the image; sometimes several paths. I use a MS tilt-wheel mouse, which makes this bug very easy to invoke. I haven't noticed it in Vista, and it appears to be gone in 7. Steve8394 ( talk) 06:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Can I place a photo edit here? Mallerd 19:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Well I have been very naughty, and done just that! Perhaps Wikipedia would like to display an exhibition of MS Paint Artwork. I would love to put up an educational Video Instruction Screen Capture (say 5 to 10 minutes) with something like TechSmith 'Camtasia Studio 5' Perhaps do the entire "Fairest Daughter of heaven and waves" or "Birth of Venus", by Sandro Botticelli (Alessandro di Mariano Fillipeppi) c. 1486 from The Florence Galeria delgi Uffizi. Speed draw it in ten minutes? (about five hours in real time) It would be a pleasure to undertake it.( Alastair Carnegie ( talk) 00:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC))
I moved the color box somehow. How do I get it back over there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.15.231 ( talk) 00:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Click on it and move it. It's easy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.152.143 ( talk) 16:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/racooon/th_Wikipediafinish.png I made this picture of the Wikipedia Globe using Paint. I don't know how to upload images though, so feel free to save a copy and upload it. Racooon 08:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Paint being the ephemeral default drawing program for oft-vilified Windows operating systems has gotten a telling nickname — that of MsPain :-) —
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=349765&cid=21254307
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Mardus
16:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm a longtime user of MS paint and I wondered if anyone thought It'd be a good idea to make 2 tables of the default pallet colours in MS Paint before Vista and in Vista. I'll go through and grab the Hex codes if someone wants. I'm not sure how to do the table though. -- The Lone Bard ( talk) 04:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Edit: threw this together quickly. Someone else can probably do a better job or clean it up.
#000000 | #808080 | #800000 | #808000 | #008000 | #008080 | #000080 | #800080 | #808040 | #004040 | #0080FF | #004080 | #8000FF | #804000 |
#FFFFFF | #C0C0C0 | #FF0000 | #FFFF00 | #00FF00 | #00FFFF | #0000FF | #FF00FF | #FFFF80 | #00FF80 | #80FFFF | #8080FF | #FF0080 | #FF8040 |
#000000 | #464646 | #787878 | #990030 | #ED1C24 | #FF7E00 | #FFC20E | #FFF200 | #A8E61D | #22B14C | #00B7EF | #4D6DF3 | #2F3699 | #6F3198 |
#FFFFFF | #DCDCDC | #B4B4B4 | #9C5A3C | #FFA3B1 | #E5AA7A | #F5E49C | #FFF9BD | #D3F9BC | #9DBB61 | #99D9EA | #709AD1 | #546D8E | #B5A5D5 |
-- The Lone Bard ( talk) 05:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Has development of this program ceased due to Paint.NET? Will/Has Paint.NET replaced Paint? -- Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson ( talk) 00:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I seem to remember using a Dos version of MS Paint on an Amstrad XT.. is this older or newer than the windows 1.0 version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.88.45.5 ( talk) 23:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
It is said in the introduction of this article that almost all versions of Windows have had the Paint software built in to the operating system. I think all of them had Paint, so we should remove the word "almost". If I'm wrong, just ignore what I said here, but I strongly believe there was no version of Microsoft Windows without it.
I removed Image:Paint.gif from the article, since it's unnecessary and distracting. It's also poorly named.
I also feel that this page is starting to be used as a place for people to showcase their own creations, and removing this image should hopefully provide a precedent to discourage future additions. CountingPine ( talk) 23:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
can u please tell me in points that what are the applications of ms-paint.i have to make a powerpoint presentation on the topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.157.92.20 ( talk) 14:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I've heard that it is a popular image editor for spriters and sprite artist —Preceding
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19:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I recently got a new laptop, which came with Vista. I've been using Paint for editing sprites, and the colour replacement feature (right-clicking with the eraser) has gotten quite handy.... But it doesn't seem to be working on Vista. Any help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.50.117 ( talk) 16:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The colour replacement feature works fine for me in Vista. Gerry246 ( talk) 07:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
The article refers to a zoom slider in the Vista version. Is this correct? Where's the slider? Actually, I think the article has Vista confused with Windows 7, which does have slider, according to http://www.online-tech-tips.com/windows-7/windows-7-first-look-ms-paint/ Gerry246 ( talk) 07:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there an equivalent program of MS Paint on Apple computers? 72.209.42.92 ( talk) 21:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Could someone add the name of the executable to the Infobox please? (I don't know the name, don't have Windows...) - Cy21( talk) 13:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Paint brush was for many people the first introduction to drawing and painting directly into a computer image file and quite a few artist found the color erase function useful for creating layout lines in a selected color that could then be erased or blended into the finished drawing. An additional application of the function was to remove red eye from photographs by simply setting the erased color to red and the back ground color to black.
Though the modification to the color erase function from paint brush to paint was minor the change was not noted coherently in the help files, the apparent loss of function in this particularly useful tool produced a great many hard feelings and drove a substantial number of artists to purchase more "Serious" software, often with only approximately similar capabilities.
71.56.255.218 ( talk) 03:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that the replace feature of the color eraser is not noted in the (pitiful) Help in any version of Paint. Is there a way to include it in the article? By selecting a foreground color (color #1) that exists in the image, and a different background (color #2), and then erasing using the RIGHT mouse button, any pixel OF COLOR #1 that the eraser passes over is changed to color #2. This is distinct from the normal left erase in which ALL colors are replaced by color #2; not strictly color #1 as with right erase. Steve8394 ( talk) 06:32, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
MS Paint in win7 will +not+ let you save transparency info in PNG files. Apparently it still can only save to 24-bit PNG files which lack alpha channel info. There are no tools within paint7 to set transparency anyhow.
I have edited the main article to correct misleading paragraph that said "can view and save transparent PNG" with "can view but not save". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.216.82 ( talk) 02:25, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
As far as I know, Paint and Paintbrush are two completely different programs. Paint was not licensed from ZSoft, Paintbrush was. It would not make much sense to license the program and then not use the file format.— Graf Bobby ( talk) 17:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Trick Question can paint make animations using the gif format?~74.163.16.27~-Tailsman67 of Sonic News Network and others — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.16.27 ( talk) 00:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
The information on pre-Win95 Paint/Paintbrush was hopelessly mixed up; I've just corrected it. At least, I assume Paint under Windows 1 used MSP format – my first experience of Windows was version 2.03. PCX and BMP were both added in 3.0. But I forget when exactly MSP and PCX were dropped – can anyone enlighten? (Indeed, did the Win95 version natively support any format other than BMP/DIB?)
It would be nice to see more detailed information on file format support as it progressed through the history of Paint/Paintbrush. Something like this:
1.0 | 2.0 | 3.0 | 95 | XP | |
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MSP | Native | ||||
BMP | Native | ||||
PCX | Native | ||||
GIF | Via filter | Native |
Of course, this is only an example of both the data itself and the format of presentation, but it shows the level of information it would be nice to have in the article. (Of course, it should also be noted if a given version can open but not save a given format.) — Smjg ( talk) 23:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I use MSPaint XP a lot. Sometimes I'm annoyed by its inability to zoom out, to get an overwiew of a picture which is bigger than the window. Has this been fixed in the Vista or Win7 versions? Maybe worth mentioning in the article? -- BjKa ( talk) 12:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Is there still Paint in Windows 8, and if there is, why isn't there any information about it? Llightex ( talk) 00:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
"File," "Edit," "Tool," "Help," etc. are all missing. I clicked something and now my ribbon is all screwed up. How do I fix it? And yes, before anyone asks, I DID try Google. None of my search results turned up anything even remotely related (typical). Josh ( talk) 06:42, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
In the Features section, particularly in the Windows 7 subsection, it merely expands every menu with a cryptic description. Can't we condense the important features into a paragraph? Currently it takes up a lot of space and only two of the three columns allotted for it. 94.222.101.42 ( talk) 11:35, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 20:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Paint (software) → Microsoft Paint – This is the official name as used by Microsoft (see [2] [3] [4]). It is also the WP:COMMONNAME in other sources (see [5] [6]). - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 08:52, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
What kind of paint brush is depicted on the logo for MS Paint? -- Bevo ( talk) 16:15, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
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Codename Lisa: you reverted my last edit here. I'd like to clarify that I was just doing RC patrol when I saw that an IP has removed substantial amount of information without any summary. I reverted his/her edit and warned him/her. I'd no intention to cause any edit war.
Except that, now that I saw your edit summary, I'd like to add that paint 3D isn't just speculation, It's been officially announced and shown by Microsoft. It's also, to the best of my knowledge, available as a beta on preview builds so WP:CRYSTAL isn't applicable. Thank you :)
Yashovardhan (
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11:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello, guys.
Can we have a full scale discussion and put the issue of the most common name to rest? A recent edit from PapiDimmi tried to establish "MS Paint" is the most common name by giving only three usage examples! Please correct me if I am wrong, but doing so only proves that three sources have used "MS Paint". Actually, one of the sources (Gizmodo) uses "Microsoft Paint" as well.
Speaking only for myself, the most common name I've heard was "Paint". But how do we know for sure that it, or any other name, is the most common name?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
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04:03, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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I see you’re trying to manipulate me into changing my signature or letting you change my signature.
I don’t understand how inserting unnecessary line break tags achieves anything other than making the page difficult to read. How does inserting all these line break tags “solve” my signature? Papí • talk 11:36, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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Back on topic here,
WP:COMMONNAME is about article titles, not lead sentences. The applicable guideline here is
WP:LEADSENTENCE, which says "When the page title is used as the subject of the first sentence, it may appear in a slightly different form, and it may include variations, including synonyms". It later calls out bolding any synonyms which are
WP:OTHERNAMES, but that link says nothing about significant alternative names having to be "the most common name". MS Paint is a common enough synonym (and it derives from the name of the executable being called mspaint.exe since Windows 95 was introduced 22 years ago), so I don't see anything wrong with its inclusion as an alternative name in this article. --
Ahecht (
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23:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Under the History section, the different releases of MS Paint should include the program version numbers to help distinguish them from each other.
I've confirmed that Windows 7 uses Paint v6.1. I would appreciate it if other users could help check Paint's version number for other versions of Windows. (The specific version number can be found on the "About Paint" window.)
-- Stevoisiak ( talk) 17:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
There seems to be a slow-witted edit war brewing over the quietly announced deprecation of MS Paint in the fall Creator's update, so I figured I'd add my two cents.
In my view, this is not a situation where WP:CRYSTAL applies. We shouldn't add *unverified* speculation, but this is not unverified. Planned deprecation of Paint has been reported on in multiple, verifiable, quality sources. Adding a single sentence noting this planned deprecation is not unverified. Please don't use WP:CRYSTAL as a kludgeon against anything occurring in the future; that is not its purpose. elektrik SHOOS ( talk) 18:24, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Deprecation states formally that the feature is no longer actively developed, and it serves as a warning that Microsoft may remove the feature in a future release. Removal isn't guaranteed, however; there are parts of the Win32 API that have been deprecated for 20 years but still haven't been removed. It's possible that Paint will continue to ship with Windows in a kind of zombie state: not subject to any active maintenance but kept around indefinitely since it's self-contained and not a security risk.
Indeed, the end of the development of Paint is not going to surprise anyone who actually uses the thing; the last time it received any non-negligible improvements was in Windows 7, when its user interface was updated to use a ribbon control. Before that, it had an interface that had been largely untouched since Windows 3.1. As such, Microsoft's official deprecation is merely confirming something that was already obvious; it's not an indicator that anything has actually changed.
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I have the damned thing set to "200px" but it's still so huge! WTF?! --NLUT
I think Microsoft should bundle GIMP with Windows.
Shouldn't we mention the Z-Soft heritage somewhere. I'm quite sure the original Paintbrush for Windows was developed by them. They were previously producing PC Paintbrush, a drawing program for DOS. R4p70r 02:48, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
In the magnafying option, click on 8x. Then if you click below it like one pixel more, you can magnify 10x. Can we put that in this article?-- 198.147.225.76 00:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Now if only you could figure out how to get 4x in the dropdown instead of having to up and pick "large size"...
Where is this 8x option? I only have view > zoom > custom > 100%, 200%, 400%, 600%, 800% and they're radio buttons. What version are you talking about?
This article mentions the SHIFT key to be used for the "Trail Mode" in the selection of the image but the SHIFT key has other functions:
I'll add them to the article later but I'd have to clean it up first. -- TKGB 00:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Does the new Windows Vista will have a new version of Paint? MarioV 21:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
–Yes, it is slightly upgraded visually.
I miss the color replace tool, that was removed from the new version.
A friend of mine dropped his keyboard and said that now his pencil tool was making two-pixel wide marks instead of the regular one. Has this happened to anyone? To cure it, I just recommended he save, close, and reopen, and that fixed it, but I am still curious.
does anybody else use this as their primary source of image creation?
i put a bunch my drawings on photobucket[ [1]], and i would like to see any one elses drawings...to take tips from.
The way "trail mode" is described in this article is incorrect:
For the stamp mode, the user can select part of the image, hold the control key, and move it to another part of the canvas. This, instead of cutting the piece out, creates a copy of it. The process can be repeated as many times as desired, as long as the control key is held down. The trail mode works exactly the same, but it uses the shift key instead of the control key.
Trail mode doesn't work in the same way as stamp mode- it creates a trail of copies, not just one. I think this should be reworded.
Is Paint really capable of opening SVG images if SVG Reader is installed? Is this maybe a Vista thing? I can't get this to work on XP. J Di talk 12:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed the link to Paint.NET, as it has no association with Microsoft Paint apart from happening to have a similar name. Jibjibjib 01:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
You can have 3 colours to paint with. Simply Ctrl + click a colour on the pallet to choose your third colour. Hold down ctrl while painting to paint with your "third colour" 124.178.71.202 13:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC) dude, thats cool!
Is Paint changes the interface for Windows Vista from Windows XP? — Jigs41793 Talk 13:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
How does my image cause many potential violations? Soxrock 18:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I had the image on the article because it was supposed to show completed work on Paint. But I do see about the logos, and how they may be inappropriate and not fair use. My bad Soxrock 20:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Image:Vista Paint.png
Image:Paint Vista.png
Which of the two images to the right do you prefer? I recently uploaded the first picture to go on Features new to Windows Vista; it was removed/orphaned recently. I then put it on Paint (software) because I honestly feel it is a better image, and it was reverted by the same user. Which of these do you, the other editors of this article, think does a better job of illustrating the program and its interface? In my opinion, the one I uploaded makes a better thumbnail because it focuses on the UI and has less "dead space." Opinions? — Disavian ( talk/ contribs) 03:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
No need to use Windows Vista Paint as the first image. It's already on the page under "Versions". Replay7 18:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Well fine, if you hate me that much. Replay7 21:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Please, bring it back. Just long enough for me to save it back to my computer. Replay7 21:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
This option did exist for me but now it doesn't. I'm running full Aero display with full 32-bit depth colour so I can't understand why the option has suddenly disappeared. Any ideas? 86.148.108.242 ( talk) 15:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to download it off the net? I know it's possible for windows 95, but I haven't been able to find anything for XP... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kooolcow ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC).
Image:Mspaintvista.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 23:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
At one time you could buy Microsoft Paintbrush for DOS by itself; it was even bundled along with the Microsoft Mouse at one time. -- Edwin Herdman 19:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Paint was a new application with Windows 95. Previous versions of Windows included Paintbrush; a different application with a different codebase (licensed from ZSoft in part). Much of the history section in this article is just plain wrong. -- 82.7.199.50 14:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
It would be good if the article could clarify the relationship between Paint and PC Paintbrush. It would seem that calling the 3.1 version Paintbrush would be impossible were it not for involvement between MS and ZSoft, but memory is murky and references are few-- Lionelbrits 03:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
See when you use the Line tool while you hold down the Shift key, you can draw "straight" lines. horizontal, vertical, and diagonal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PNiddy ( talk • contribs).
When I click "just to the right" of the small brush in Vista's paint, I get an "insufficient memory" error message. So maybe it was a memory bug in the XP version which couldn't repro in Vista because of the improved memory error handling? 80.176.249.204 18:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This bug is a result of no paintbrush highlighted. I use the Windows Vista Version and whenever I click JUST TO THE RIGHT of any "brush", the one previously highlighted is no longer highlighted. Thus the computer can't complete the task of painting if there is nothing to paint with. Zippo Prower of DrunkDuck.com 10:31 PM September 22 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.119.66 ( talk) 02:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Here's a glitch I found back in around 2003 with the XP version of Paint (might happen with other versions as well). Make an image zoomed enough for the scroll bars to show, then use the Color Eraser tool (hold the right button instead of the left) to turn a matching foreground color chosen in your palette, to the background color also chosen in your palette (e.g. a black foreground color with a white 'eraser' will turn all black parts of the image white while holding the right button). If you happen to go across a scroll bar and let go of the mouse button, a menu pops up asking you if you want to scroll here. Upon closing the menu, the eraser continues to erase the color underneath the cursor without holding the button, and this 'automatic' color erasing cannot be undone since it hasn't tracked a mouse click since the scroll bar menu popped up; however, the Undo command will still undo your previous work up to when you clicked on the scroll bar, leaving the mess which the auto-erase left. The only way to stop the eraser from inadvertently removing more color data is to either click the mouse again or press the Escape key after closing the menu. 123.243.99.227 ( talk) 03:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Another bug is scrolling while erasing in XP - it produces a near-random erase path across the image; sometimes several paths. I use a MS tilt-wheel mouse, which makes this bug very easy to invoke. I haven't noticed it in Vista, and it appears to be gone in 7. Steve8394 ( talk) 06:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Can I place a photo edit here? Mallerd 19:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Well I have been very naughty, and done just that! Perhaps Wikipedia would like to display an exhibition of MS Paint Artwork. I would love to put up an educational Video Instruction Screen Capture (say 5 to 10 minutes) with something like TechSmith 'Camtasia Studio 5' Perhaps do the entire "Fairest Daughter of heaven and waves" or "Birth of Venus", by Sandro Botticelli (Alessandro di Mariano Fillipeppi) c. 1486 from The Florence Galeria delgi Uffizi. Speed draw it in ten minutes? (about five hours in real time) It would be a pleasure to undertake it.( Alastair Carnegie ( talk) 00:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC))
I moved the color box somehow. How do I get it back over there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.15.231 ( talk) 00:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Click on it and move it. It's easy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.152.143 ( talk) 16:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/racooon/th_Wikipediafinish.png I made this picture of the Wikipedia Globe using Paint. I don't know how to upload images though, so feel free to save a copy and upload it. Racooon 08:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Paint being the ephemeral default drawing program for oft-vilified Windows operating systems has gotten a telling nickname — that of MsPain :-) —
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I'm a longtime user of MS paint and I wondered if anyone thought It'd be a good idea to make 2 tables of the default pallet colours in MS Paint before Vista and in Vista. I'll go through and grab the Hex codes if someone wants. I'm not sure how to do the table though. -- The Lone Bard ( talk) 04:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Edit: threw this together quickly. Someone else can probably do a better job or clean it up.
#000000 | #808080 | #800000 | #808000 | #008000 | #008080 | #000080 | #800080 | #808040 | #004040 | #0080FF | #004080 | #8000FF | #804000 |
#FFFFFF | #C0C0C0 | #FF0000 | #FFFF00 | #00FF00 | #00FFFF | #0000FF | #FF00FF | #FFFF80 | #00FF80 | #80FFFF | #8080FF | #FF0080 | #FF8040 |
#000000 | #464646 | #787878 | #990030 | #ED1C24 | #FF7E00 | #FFC20E | #FFF200 | #A8E61D | #22B14C | #00B7EF | #4D6DF3 | #2F3699 | #6F3198 |
#FFFFFF | #DCDCDC | #B4B4B4 | #9C5A3C | #FFA3B1 | #E5AA7A | #F5E49C | #FFF9BD | #D3F9BC | #9DBB61 | #99D9EA | #709AD1 | #546D8E | #B5A5D5 |
-- The Lone Bard ( talk) 05:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Has development of this program ceased due to Paint.NET? Will/Has Paint.NET replaced Paint? -- Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson ( talk) 00:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I seem to remember using a Dos version of MS Paint on an Amstrad XT.. is this older or newer than the windows 1.0 version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.88.45.5 ( talk) 23:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
It is said in the introduction of this article that almost all versions of Windows have had the Paint software built in to the operating system. I think all of them had Paint, so we should remove the word "almost". If I'm wrong, just ignore what I said here, but I strongly believe there was no version of Microsoft Windows without it.
I removed Image:Paint.gif from the article, since it's unnecessary and distracting. It's also poorly named.
I also feel that this page is starting to be used as a place for people to showcase their own creations, and removing this image should hopefully provide a precedent to discourage future additions. CountingPine ( talk) 23:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
can u please tell me in points that what are the applications of ms-paint.i have to make a powerpoint presentation on the topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.157.92.20 ( talk) 14:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I've heard that it is a popular image editor for spriters and sprite artist —Preceding
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I recently got a new laptop, which came with Vista. I've been using Paint for editing sprites, and the colour replacement feature (right-clicking with the eraser) has gotten quite handy.... But it doesn't seem to be working on Vista. Any help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.50.117 ( talk) 16:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The colour replacement feature works fine for me in Vista. Gerry246 ( talk) 07:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
The article refers to a zoom slider in the Vista version. Is this correct? Where's the slider? Actually, I think the article has Vista confused with Windows 7, which does have slider, according to http://www.online-tech-tips.com/windows-7/windows-7-first-look-ms-paint/ Gerry246 ( talk) 07:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there an equivalent program of MS Paint on Apple computers? 72.209.42.92 ( talk) 21:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Could someone add the name of the executable to the Infobox please? (I don't know the name, don't have Windows...) - Cy21( talk) 13:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Paint brush was for many people the first introduction to drawing and painting directly into a computer image file and quite a few artist found the color erase function useful for creating layout lines in a selected color that could then be erased or blended into the finished drawing. An additional application of the function was to remove red eye from photographs by simply setting the erased color to red and the back ground color to black.
Though the modification to the color erase function from paint brush to paint was minor the change was not noted coherently in the help files, the apparent loss of function in this particularly useful tool produced a great many hard feelings and drove a substantial number of artists to purchase more "Serious" software, often with only approximately similar capabilities.
71.56.255.218 ( talk) 03:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that the replace feature of the color eraser is not noted in the (pitiful) Help in any version of Paint. Is there a way to include it in the article? By selecting a foreground color (color #1) that exists in the image, and a different background (color #2), and then erasing using the RIGHT mouse button, any pixel OF COLOR #1 that the eraser passes over is changed to color #2. This is distinct from the normal left erase in which ALL colors are replaced by color #2; not strictly color #1 as with right erase. Steve8394 ( talk) 06:32, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
MS Paint in win7 will +not+ let you save transparency info in PNG files. Apparently it still can only save to 24-bit PNG files which lack alpha channel info. There are no tools within paint7 to set transparency anyhow.
I have edited the main article to correct misleading paragraph that said "can view and save transparent PNG" with "can view but not save". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.216.82 ( talk) 02:25, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
As far as I know, Paint and Paintbrush are two completely different programs. Paint was not licensed from ZSoft, Paintbrush was. It would not make much sense to license the program and then not use the file format.— Graf Bobby ( talk) 17:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Trick Question can paint make animations using the gif format?~74.163.16.27~-Tailsman67 of Sonic News Network and others — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.16.27 ( talk) 00:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
The information on pre-Win95 Paint/Paintbrush was hopelessly mixed up; I've just corrected it. At least, I assume Paint under Windows 1 used MSP format – my first experience of Windows was version 2.03. PCX and BMP were both added in 3.0. But I forget when exactly MSP and PCX were dropped – can anyone enlighten? (Indeed, did the Win95 version natively support any format other than BMP/DIB?)
It would be nice to see more detailed information on file format support as it progressed through the history of Paint/Paintbrush. Something like this:
1.0 | 2.0 | 3.0 | 95 | XP | |
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MSP | Native | ||||
BMP | Native | ||||
PCX | Native | ||||
GIF | Via filter | Native |
Of course, this is only an example of both the data itself and the format of presentation, but it shows the level of information it would be nice to have in the article. (Of course, it should also be noted if a given version can open but not save a given format.) — Smjg ( talk) 23:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I use MSPaint XP a lot. Sometimes I'm annoyed by its inability to zoom out, to get an overwiew of a picture which is bigger than the window. Has this been fixed in the Vista or Win7 versions? Maybe worth mentioning in the article? -- BjKa ( talk) 12:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Is there still Paint in Windows 8, and if there is, why isn't there any information about it? Llightex ( talk) 00:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
"File," "Edit," "Tool," "Help," etc. are all missing. I clicked something and now my ribbon is all screwed up. How do I fix it? And yes, before anyone asks, I DID try Google. None of my search results turned up anything even remotely related (typical). Josh ( talk) 06:42, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
In the Features section, particularly in the Windows 7 subsection, it merely expands every menu with a cryptic description. Can't we condense the important features into a paragraph? Currently it takes up a lot of space and only two of the three columns allotted for it. 94.222.101.42 ( talk) 11:35, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 20:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Paint (software) → Microsoft Paint – This is the official name as used by Microsoft (see [2] [3] [4]). It is also the WP:COMMONNAME in other sources (see [5] [6]). - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 08:52, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
What kind of paint brush is depicted on the logo for MS Paint? -- Bevo ( talk) 16:15, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
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Codename Lisa: you reverted my last edit here. I'd like to clarify that I was just doing RC patrol when I saw that an IP has removed substantial amount of information without any summary. I reverted his/her edit and warned him/her. I'd no intention to cause any edit war.
Except that, now that I saw your edit summary, I'd like to add that paint 3D isn't just speculation, It's been officially announced and shown by Microsoft. It's also, to the best of my knowledge, available as a beta on preview builds so WP:CRYSTAL isn't applicable. Thank you :)
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Hello, guys.
Can we have a full scale discussion and put the issue of the most common name to rest? A recent edit from PapiDimmi tried to establish "MS Paint" is the most common name by giving only three usage examples! Please correct me if I am wrong, but doing so only proves that three sources have used "MS Paint". Actually, one of the sources (Gizmodo) uses "Microsoft Paint" as well.
Speaking only for myself, the most common name I've heard was "Paint". But how do we know for sure that it, or any other name, is the most common name?
Best regards,
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I see you’re trying to manipulate me into changing my signature or letting you change my signature.
I don’t understand how inserting unnecessary line break tags achieves anything other than making the page difficult to read. How does inserting all these line break tags “solve” my signature? Papí • talk 11:36, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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Back on topic here,
WP:COMMONNAME is about article titles, not lead sentences. The applicable guideline here is
WP:LEADSENTENCE, which says "When the page title is used as the subject of the first sentence, it may appear in a slightly different form, and it may include variations, including synonyms". It later calls out bolding any synonyms which are
WP:OTHERNAMES, but that link says nothing about significant alternative names having to be "the most common name". MS Paint is a common enough synonym (and it derives from the name of the executable being called mspaint.exe since Windows 95 was introduced 22 years ago), so I don't see anything wrong with its inclusion as an alternative name in this article. --
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23:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Under the History section, the different releases of MS Paint should include the program version numbers to help distinguish them from each other.
I've confirmed that Windows 7 uses Paint v6.1. I would appreciate it if other users could help check Paint's version number for other versions of Windows. (The specific version number can be found on the "About Paint" window.)
-- Stevoisiak ( talk) 17:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
There seems to be a slow-witted edit war brewing over the quietly announced deprecation of MS Paint in the fall Creator's update, so I figured I'd add my two cents.
In my view, this is not a situation where WP:CRYSTAL applies. We shouldn't add *unverified* speculation, but this is not unverified. Planned deprecation of Paint has been reported on in multiple, verifiable, quality sources. Adding a single sentence noting this planned deprecation is not unverified. Please don't use WP:CRYSTAL as a kludgeon against anything occurring in the future; that is not its purpose. elektrik SHOOS ( talk) 18:24, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Deprecation states formally that the feature is no longer actively developed, and it serves as a warning that Microsoft may remove the feature in a future release. Removal isn't guaranteed, however; there are parts of the Win32 API that have been deprecated for 20 years but still haven't been removed. It's possible that Paint will continue to ship with Windows in a kind of zombie state: not subject to any active maintenance but kept around indefinitely since it's self-contained and not a security risk.
Indeed, the end of the development of Paint is not going to surprise anyone who actually uses the thing; the last time it received any non-negligible improvements was in Windows 7, when its user interface was updated to use a ribbon control. Before that, it had an interface that had been largely untouched since Windows 3.1. As such, Microsoft's official deprecation is merely confirming something that was already obvious; it's not an indicator that anything has actually changed.