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This article and Micropolis both cover the Census Bureau definition and creation of micropolitan statistical areas. -- Swid 19:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
If these areas are drawing "refugees" (bad terminology) as the article says, and have all sorts of advantages over larger metropolitan areas, then why isn't their share of the population set to increase? Article fails to explain. Mjk2357 19:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Mjk2357: Whether or not you agree with the conclusions of Thomas, this does not make the claim "dubious" that he coined the term in 1989. It is generally agreed upon by regional economists that he came up with it and/or popularized it in this article. Then, in 2000 the Census bureau started formally using the term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurkeyAcademy ( talk • contribs) 19:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Much of this article seems to be lifted right from this magazine-feature-type article here: http://www.matr.net/article-11115.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.255.76.43 ( talk • contribs) 16:51, 9 July 2007.
The Iowa State monograph merely used "micropolitan" as a synonym for "nonmetropolitan," which is not at all the same as Thomas' definition. The Iowa State authors considered all rural areas, no matter how sparsely settled, to be micropolitan. Thomas limited the term to regions that are economically dominated by small core cities that meet specific population requirements. He depicted micropolitan areas as miniature versions of metropolitan areas, which is the concept that was embraced subsequently by the Census Bureau. As such, he coined the term "micropolitan" as currently used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.213.147.254 ( talk) 11:33, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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This article and others on Wikipedia use the made-up abbreviation μSA for Micropolitan Statistical Area. I have not seen this abbreviation used by OMB, the Census Bureau, or any other authoritative source. If anyone has a reference supporting the use of this abbreviation, please provide it, otherwise the use of this abbreviation violates the Wikipedia style guideline and should be changed. -- Russ (talk) 12:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Whats mp on the map, guam, peurto trico, virigin islands and mp. WTF is mp? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.18.213 ( talk) 02:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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I have removed here the claim, marked as dubious for more than a year, that Thomas coined the term in 1989. The reason for the dubious tag was given as "A book titled Micropolitan development: Theory and practice of greater-rural economic development Luther G. Tweeten was published in 1976. If the definition there is the same, Thomas didn't coin it first." Tweeten defines micropolitan as
This is not quite the same as our article definition, but is close enough to be considered the same concept and thus show that Thomas didn't coin it as a term (although he might still have framed the current definition). As a word with other meanings it may be even older. [2] Spinning Spark 17:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
G. Scott Thomas again.
I was unaware of Luther Tweeten until I was told about this mini-controversy over micropolitan areas. I have since tracked down a copy of his 1976 book. He specifies on the very first page that “micropolitan” refers to the 31 percent of the nation’s residents who did not live in counties officially included in metropolitan areas.
Micropolitan, in Tweeten’s definition, is everything that is not metropolitan.
My 1989 article in American Demographics and my 1990 book, The Rating Guide to Life in America’s Small Cities, took a considerably different tack. I established a series of six ground rules for micropolitan area, required them, among other things to have a central city of at least 15,000 residents and a surrounding county of at least 40,000 residents.
My definition of micropolitan, therefore, is much different from Tweeten’s. My micropolitan areas were minature versions of metropolitan areas. It was this definition that was adopted (and tweaked) by the Office of Management and Budget when it formally created micropolitan areas a decade later. (And I, indeed, was contacted by a member of the task force that created the new micropolitan areas.)
Several news articles in 1989 followed up on my article about micropolitan areas. Here’s an example from the Deseret News in Salt Lake City: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/75290/LOGAN-A-MIGHTY-MICROPOLIS.html?pg=all
And another from the Chicago Tribune in that year: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-04-22/news/8904060973_1_micropolitan-areas-suburbs
Academic organizations have long acknowledged my role in creating the term, such as the Southern Regional Science Association: http://journal.srsa.org/ojs/index.php/RRS/article/download/41.23.7/pdf
If you need more information, please let me know.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.30.119 ( talk) 18:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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This list is out of date per latest OMB list published July 2023 which has moved several micropolitan areas to metro areas and vise versa. Estimates should also be updated for 2022 numbers to match updates to metropolitan areas. Kjslaughter ( talk) 19:49, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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This article and Micropolis both cover the Census Bureau definition and creation of micropolitan statistical areas. -- Swid 19:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
If these areas are drawing "refugees" (bad terminology) as the article says, and have all sorts of advantages over larger metropolitan areas, then why isn't their share of the population set to increase? Article fails to explain. Mjk2357 19:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Mjk2357: Whether or not you agree with the conclusions of Thomas, this does not make the claim "dubious" that he coined the term in 1989. It is generally agreed upon by regional economists that he came up with it and/or popularized it in this article. Then, in 2000 the Census bureau started formally using the term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurkeyAcademy ( talk • contribs) 19:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Much of this article seems to be lifted right from this magazine-feature-type article here: http://www.matr.net/article-11115.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.255.76.43 ( talk • contribs) 16:51, 9 July 2007.
The Iowa State monograph merely used "micropolitan" as a synonym for "nonmetropolitan," which is not at all the same as Thomas' definition. The Iowa State authors considered all rural areas, no matter how sparsely settled, to be micropolitan. Thomas limited the term to regions that are economically dominated by small core cities that meet specific population requirements. He depicted micropolitan areas as miniature versions of metropolitan areas, which is the concept that was embraced subsequently by the Census Bureau. As such, he coined the term "micropolitan" as currently used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.213.147.254 ( talk) 11:33, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Please note the following section of the Manual of Style:
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This article and others on Wikipedia use the made-up abbreviation μSA for Micropolitan Statistical Area. I have not seen this abbreviation used by OMB, the Census Bureau, or any other authoritative source. If anyone has a reference supporting the use of this abbreviation, please provide it, otherwise the use of this abbreviation violates the Wikipedia style guideline and should be changed. -- Russ (talk) 12:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Whats mp on the map, guam, peurto trico, virigin islands and mp. WTF is mp? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.18.213 ( talk) 02:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Statistical area which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 17:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
I have removed here the claim, marked as dubious for more than a year, that Thomas coined the term in 1989. The reason for the dubious tag was given as "A book titled Micropolitan development: Theory and practice of greater-rural economic development Luther G. Tweeten was published in 1976. If the definition there is the same, Thomas didn't coin it first." Tweeten defines micropolitan as
This is not quite the same as our article definition, but is close enough to be considered the same concept and thus show that Thomas didn't coin it as a term (although he might still have framed the current definition). As a word with other meanings it may be even older. [2] Spinning Spark 17:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
G. Scott Thomas again.
I was unaware of Luther Tweeten until I was told about this mini-controversy over micropolitan areas. I have since tracked down a copy of his 1976 book. He specifies on the very first page that “micropolitan” refers to the 31 percent of the nation’s residents who did not live in counties officially included in metropolitan areas.
Micropolitan, in Tweeten’s definition, is everything that is not metropolitan.
My 1989 article in American Demographics and my 1990 book, The Rating Guide to Life in America’s Small Cities, took a considerably different tack. I established a series of six ground rules for micropolitan area, required them, among other things to have a central city of at least 15,000 residents and a surrounding county of at least 40,000 residents.
My definition of micropolitan, therefore, is much different from Tweeten’s. My micropolitan areas were minature versions of metropolitan areas. It was this definition that was adopted (and tweaked) by the Office of Management and Budget when it formally created micropolitan areas a decade later. (And I, indeed, was contacted by a member of the task force that created the new micropolitan areas.)
Several news articles in 1989 followed up on my article about micropolitan areas. Here’s an example from the Deseret News in Salt Lake City: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/75290/LOGAN-A-MIGHTY-MICROPOLIS.html?pg=all
And another from the Chicago Tribune in that year: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-04-22/news/8904060973_1_micropolitan-areas-suburbs
Academic organizations have long acknowledged my role in creating the term, such as the Southern Regional Science Association: http://journal.srsa.org/ojs/index.php/RRS/article/download/41.23.7/pdf
If you need more information, please let me know.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.30.119 ( talk) 18:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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This list is out of date per latest OMB list published July 2023 which has moved several micropolitan areas to metro areas and vise versa. Estimates should also be updated for 2022 numbers to match updates to metropolitan areas. Kjslaughter ( talk) 19:49, 2 October 2023 (UTC)