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You might want to add this article: (there are one or two factual errors in it: I didn't chain myself to any railings and Trident wasn't stocked at Aldermaston. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.38.89.204 ( talk) 19:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/11827586/A-charming-unreconstructed-socialist.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/11827586/A-charming-unreconstructed-socialist.html
Should say something about his views as an educationalist and socialist political commentator.
Link to http://www.langandlit.ualberta.ca/Fall2004/SteigelBainbridge.html mentions this a bit --- he stood as an election candidate for Respect.
Not so sure about Connie. The obituaries give us a good start on Harold, and I certainly have a few bits of his stuff from the 60's and 70's in various educational anthologies. So I'll make a start when I next have an hour or two. Sjwells53 ( talk) 22:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Started a page on Harold. Hope it helps to fill in a bit of Michael's background. Would be very happy to see others expand it. It really needs a whole separate section of explanation of his ideas, into which some of the biography could be moved. Now we need to think about improving this page. Sjwells53 ( talk) 13:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I notice Michael has been joined up with SWP again. Unless this reflects a very recent change, it isn't true. In fact the user who put it in is apparently blocked, although has still managed to change this article. I'll leave it for a while, because I reckon Michael will be able to cast more light on it himself, then delete if this post is unchallenged. It's obvious Michael Rosen does share some of the perspectives of SWP, as do lots of other people who are not members. Membership is something much more specific and definite. Sjwells53 ( talk) 10:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC) Trustworthiness:Vendor reliability:Privacy:Child safety:
The following information was recently added to a "Trivia" section by an anonymous editor:
I've removed it from the main article for two reasons: (1) it is unreferenced; and (2) trivia sections are to be avoided as they encourage editors to add miscellaneous facts to the article. If references can be found for the information, it can be integrated back into the main text of the article. — Cheers, JackLee – talk– 10:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to tell you that I was given a gold Blue Peter badge. I was wearing it on Blue Peter a few weeks ago and someone asked me what I got it for? All the info is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2009/12_december/28/bluepeter.shtml
i'm a 1-armed typist at the moment as i hurt my shoulder through excessive repetitive editing...
the 'see above' refers to the son's illness - i had seen the death of the son before reading about his illness above. i didn't want to repeat the illness, so added that instead. perhaps 'as described above' would be clearer - Rothorpe ( talk) 17:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC) - also reverting 'see above' accidentally put in ref.
thanxx. i've moved it, as i prefer it thus, but change it back if you wish. Rothorpe ( talk) 21:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
ok, cheers - Rothorpe ( talk) 00:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello again folks, if you look at the From Here to Paternity article that you've referenced you'll see the correct names and ages of my children (as dated to that article). I challenge you to find that any of my progeny are called 'Eliza' ! best wishes again, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 23:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
HELLO! Just writing again to say that you've got my daughter's name wrong. Now someone's added in a fairly illiterate way something to do with a) my previous wife and b) the children eg 'here' for what I think should be 'their' ! best wishes, Michael Rosen. You can write to me at rosenmichael@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 15:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Have added several honorary degree awards but have left out the fact the University of North London, Middlesex University, and the Open University gave me honorary degrees because I can't reference them. I gave back my Middlesex University one because they closed the philosophy department and that was my protest about that. best wishes, Michael Rosen (rosenmichael@hotmail.com) — Preceding
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Correction, folks! University of North London and Middlesex were 'visiting professorships' not, repeat not, honorary degrees. So the only one missing from the list is the Open University and I can't find a press cutting for this to reference it. vbest, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 10:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Just to say that I am no longer Visiting Professor at Birkbeck. As you say, I am now Prof at Goldsmiths. Thanks a lot. Best Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.189.7.161 ( talk) 01:04, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
This is wrong: "He is currently Visiting Professor of Children's Literature at Birkbeck, University of London,[16] where he teaches Children's Literature and has devised an MA in Children's Literature, which commenced in October 2010 "He is currently Visiting Professor of Children's Literature at Birkbeck, University of London,[16] where he teaches Children's Literature and has devised an MA in Children's Literature, which commenced in October 2010." i am no longer employed by Birkbeck. Hope you can delete this soon. Best Michael
Hi, Philip Cross. You relocated a footnote from the end of a newly inserted block of information about Rosen's parents and ancestors to a place earlier in the block because not all the information was sourced from the reference in the footnote. This means the fragment "and Connie a primary school teacher before becoming a training college lecturer; she also broadcast for the BBC. Their ancestors came from Poland, Russia and Romania." is unreferenced. Are you able to locate a reference for it? If not, I think we should remove it from the article until it can be properly sourced. — Cheers, Truth's Out There – talk– 17:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I could have added a {{ fact}} tag but I thought I'd ask you first. Have you tried Googling to see if you can find a source? Adding a {{ fact}} tag is only a temporary fix: " Wikipedia:Citing sources#Unsourced material" says, "If a claim is doubtful but not harmful to the whole article or to Wikipedia, use the {{ fact}} tag, but remember to go back and remove the claim if no source is produced within a reasonable time." [Emphasis added.] — Cheers, Truth's Out There – talk– 18:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys - I don't seem to be able to log in. This is Michael again. Someone has maliciously deleted me from the category 'English Jews'. I see that no reason was given. I say 'maliciously' because it doesn't take long to find in the list of 'English Jews' plenty of Jews who are of similar background and belief-systems as me - e.g. my own father, Harold Rosen, who was brought up as a secular Jew. You can see quite clearly who has done this. I have no idea the exact reason for doing it but you can also see that this person sees him/herself as a rather cultured person. I suggest that if it becomes OK for someone to remove people from a list such as 'English Jews' then we are on a dangerous tack. It's not for one self-appointed person to decree that I am not an English Jew. Nasty times.
Hello. I see that I have been restored. Perhaps by you. If so, thanks. Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:AF20:3900:DD7:F29:5C50:D536 ( talk) 21:28, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi guys - I see that you are having problems over my middle name. It is actually Wayne. Here's an article in which I explain why it's Wayne: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/sep/08/michael-rosen-realising-that-poetry-was-performance-was-my-eureka-moment-
Hi guys, you've got the birth years of my children and the name of one of them wrong. best wishes, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 23:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Me again: you've got the reference to Beatrice Hastings wrong. It wasn't my mother who met BH. It was my father. He met her on account of HIS mother's acquaintance with her. This is in his autobiography 'Are You Still Circumcised?' (Five Leaves Press). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.209.92 ( talk) 19:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Guys, this part of the sentence is wrong: "... for example his mother's acquaintance with the bohemian literary figure Beatrice Hastings made an impression on him as a child.[6]
That wasn't my mother. It was my father's mother who knew Beatrice Hastings. This is, as I've said, documented in 'Are You Still Circumcised?' by Harold Rosen (Five Leaves Press) and will be repeated in 'So They Call You Pisher!' (Verso) coming out in September 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.222.173 ( talk) 08:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
You haven't read the article from the New Statesman properly! Rose is not my mother. She's my father's mother. Look:
"I remember Rose when she was old and not very coherent but it was clear that she was someone whom people wanted to see. My father described their house behind the London Hospital, on Whitechapel Road, as somewhere that seamen from Russia and Jamaica would come but also how she seemed to know some posh Communists, such as the bohemian Beatrice Hastings, once the model for Modigliani."
My mother was Connie, as you've said.
PLEASE CHANGE THIS. JUST READ THE ARTICLE YOU'VE CITED AND USE THE INFORMATION THERE, RATHER THAN MAKE UP YOUR OWN STORIES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.217.144 ( talk) 10:41, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
This sentence is factually wrong, as I've explained several times above: "They eventually left the Communist Party in 1957. Michael never joined, but this background influenced his childhood, for example his mother's acquaintance with the bohemian literary figure Beatrice Hastings made an impression on him as a child.[6]"
IT IS WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T READ THE ARTICLE YOU'VE CITED! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.217.113 ( talk) 14:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Michael here. The Beatrice Hastings event didn't have an effect on me as a child because I didn't know about it until my dad wrote his memoir which wasn't until I was in my forties! It made an impression on HIM when he was a child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7280:EB00:A9E9:6938:7D74:F513 ( talk) 08:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Now, before anyone gets the wrong idea, I didn't come to this page just to look for "funny information about michael rosen YTPs and shits and giggles". However, his impact on internet culture - at least I believe - is at least noticable, but not to suggest that popular "YoutubePoops" should be included and referenced. Does anyone want to share their thoughts on the subject? I'm not entirely sure if the videos are noticable enough to warrant a mention in the first place. 71.196.173.180 ( talk) 08:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Michael here. 'We're Going on a Bear Hunt' is not a 'children's novel. You're getting a few giggles from people at that. It's a children's picture book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7280:EB00:A9E9:6938:7D74:F513 ( talk) 08:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
A mention of Michael Rosen's videos on YT keeps being added to the article. While on this occasion there is no problem with copyright, as it is clearly an official channel which Rosen links to from his website, it does not seem possible for notability to be established. I can only find a third-party reference on Times Education, but that appears to be user generated content which does not meet the requirements of being a reliable source. Philip Cross ( talk) 07:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Michael here. Our YouTube channel has had 100 million views. For a channel that is just made up of poems, stories, jokes and interviews with other writers (and some reviews of children's books made by children) that's quite a few!
The "Early Life" section focuses more on Michael's parents than Michael himself. Rectar2 ( talk) 23:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Michael here. Good point! Given that about 80% of my work is about my 'early life', it's both a bit odd and actually not hard to find out about! My memoir, 'So They Call You Pisher!' is not a bad source too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7280:EB00:A9E9:6938:7D74:F513 ( talk) 08:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
@
Pickuptha'Musket: I don't think that Rosen should be in the category for Internet memes. He's mentioned once in
YouTube Poop, inside a paragraph consisting of YouTube: Online Video and Participatory Culture notes that low-budget television shows such as Super Mario World and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, as well as cutscenes from video games for the Philips CD-i, popular movies, music videos, video games, commercials, and television shows including SpongeBob SquarePants, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, My Little Pony: Equestria Girls, Caillou, Barney and Friends, Thomas & Friends, King of the Hill, Disney/Pixar movies, Billy Mays, Michael Rosen, Wilford Brimley, "Gangnam Style", The Room, The Wiggles, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, Team Fortress 2, How It's Made and ChuckleVision are frequently used as sources.
It's also never mentioned in this article, which it should if it's such an integral, notable part of his fame.
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I'm three years late to this discussion but he's definitely well-known as a meme (or at the very least was one). However, if and only if we find third-party reliable secondary sources that mention his status as a meme should we include this. For the last decades there has been no shortage of Michael Rosen meme edits circulating, and if a reliable article mentions that it's worth mentioning as a footnote somewhere in the article. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 01:14, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I think it would be reasonable to mention his memes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.208.63 ( talk) 19:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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Michael Rosen here: you still haven't got the account of my stay in hospital(s) right. You've got the first phases right. Yes I did go into a geriatric ward. That was for about 10 days. Then - crucially - I was taken to another hospital, St Pancras Rehabilitation Hospital. i went there on June 3 and was there for 3 weeks. Why crucial? Because that's where they taught me how to stand up, then use a frame, then a wheel chair, then a stick and then finally to walk without a stick so that by the end, I could walk from the ambulance to my front door unaided. I owe an enormous amount to the physiotherapists and occupational therapists there for what they did for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23CC:7280:E01:AC3E:BF84:966D:8071 ( talk) 00:15, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Should the section on when Michael Rosen was ill with covid-19 tell of the
Near-Death Experience he had while he was ill with this disease?
Rollo August (
talk) 19:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
I KNOW THAT YOU MOSTLY IGNORE WHAT I SAY BUT YOU'VE GOT THIS SERIOUSLY WRONG:
His wife had been told not to take him to hospital if possible, as part of the general advice to protect the NHS, but a doctor friend saw him and revealed that his blood oxygen level was dangerously low.[61] Having been taken to hospital, he was moved into the ICU on 29 March and then back to a ward, before being moved back into the ICU in early April. He left the ICU after 47 days.[62][63] By 6 June, he was recuperating at Whittington Hospital.[64][65]
MY WIFE WAS NOT TOLD 'TO NOT TAKE ME TO HOSPITAL AS PART OF THE GENERAL ADVICE TO PROTECT THE NHS'. THE SIMON HATTENSTONE ARTICLE YOU'VE REFERENCED DOESN'T SAY THAT. YOU'VE JUST MADE THAT UP. SECONDLY, I WAS MOVED TO A GERIATRIC WARD AT THE WHITTINGTON ON MAY 22 AND THEN MOVED TO ST PANCRAS REHAB HOSPITAL ON JUNE 2 WHERE I RECUPERATED TILL JUNE 23. YOU'VE GOT THAT VERY WRONG. — Preceding
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CHECKED WITH WIFE - THAT SHOULD BE THAT I WAS IN ST PANCRAS FROM JUNE 2 TO JUNE 23.
AWARD: https://www.childrensarts.org.uk/aca-news/michael-rosen-wins-the-2021-j-m-barrie-award/
Hi again, you could possibly include these awards too?
Sony Radio Academy Gold Award 2003 Radio short form: ‘On Saying Goodbye’
1997 Eleanor Farjeon Award for distinguished services to children’s literature — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23CC:7280:E00:CCD0:DCB3:6537:AAD ( talk) 19:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66028985
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jun/28/author-michael-rosen-wins-2023-pen-pinter-prize-for-fearless-body-of-work — Preceding
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/michael-rosen-chimamanda-ngozi-adichie-margaret-atwood-harold-pinter-pen-b2365694.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.26.52 ( talk) 21:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
https://www.thebookseller.com/news/rosen-wins-pen-pinter-prize-2023-for-rare-invaluable-gift — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.26.52 ( talk) 22:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Michael Rosen here again. You have me down as being 'professor of children's literature at Goldsmiths University of London' since 2014 but where you tell your readers what my job is, you don't mention this. This strikes me as strange because for nearly 10 years now I've been employed for two days work a week at Goldsmiths. It feels like a job to me. I realise that me commenting on my own wiki page didn't go down well with someone elsewhere on this Talk section but others have pointed out that it's OK because I'm not trying to edit the article and it's transparent that it's me anyway. Best wishes, Michael. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.58.178 ( talk) 00:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
It is my understanding that someone claiming to be the topic of this article has been providing information though this talk page and also engaging in disputes about what information to add to the article. This undeniably compromises this article's notability and thus I have added a notability template to the top of the article. I'd urge you to all become more civil on this talk page and fix these issues to make sure that there is no influence in the writing of this article from individuals close to the subject. — Preceding
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What about the allegations he downplayed anti-Semitism in the Labour Party? ( 86.140.123.8 ( talk) 17:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC))
Ok 42.108.160.10 ( talk) 09:21, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
In the subsection about Politics / Jeremy Corbyn there’s a paragraph about accusations of Anti-Semitism based on photoshopped images. The text moves on to what happened (eventual suicide) to the accuser, himself the subject of an article which deals with this matter in full.
This paragraph is not about Rosen or his politics and it does not mention Corbyn either. So I removed it, but another editor has reverted my change. I’m unhappy with that but would rather discuss it here than get into a revert war (so I won’t touch the paragraph today).
Options that occur to me:
For reasons above I would remove the paragraph: it doesn’t belong. Nick Levine ( talk) 08:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Michael would like that section to be removed, as he believes it to be libellous.
Is there someone with whom I should be in contact to pass on that message? Rijnveld's Early Sensation ( talk) 15:14, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
It's good to use a more up-to-date photo than the 2009 File:Michael Rosen.jpg photo that was used here for a while, but I feel it's not appropriate to use File:MICHAEL ROSEN 2022 (54).jpg as the main picture. We typically try to use photos that aren't too unflattering on biography articles. He just looks so... visibly diseased here. The skin around his left eye is all red and swollen, his left pupil is a different size than his right pupil, and the skin of his face just doesn't look very good. Nothing inherently wrong with showing someone's age with a recent photo, but I strongly doubt that this is the best one we could be using here.
If I recall correctly, the photo we were using on this article before that one wasn't really that outdated. I'll look around the revision history and try to confirm that. If it was actually too old to keep using, I'll try to see if there are better ones on commons and suggest some here.
Vanilla Wizard 💙 18:13, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I notice that many writers on wikipedia have a list of books they've written. I gather it's not appropriate that I add these myself. For anyone interested in doing this, here's a complete list of my books: https://www.michaelrosen.co.uk/bibliography/ Best wishes Michael 86.191.123.238 ( talk) 20:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi Michael Rosen here. This is not an edit. It's a comment. I have tried to tell you several times that you have the Beatrix Hastings story wrong. I've explained how you've got it wrong and where you can go to get it right. Next: the number of books is wrong. You can get the right number from my website where they are listed. You are about 60 books wrong. Under politics, you say that I'm 'Labour' since 2015. This doesn't represent my politics. Finally, one of my main occupations since the 1990s has been university lecturing/teaching either as a visiting professor or (for the last 20 years) as a professor. You don't list that under 'occupation'. The only problem with you getting these things wrong is that people use wiki as a reputable and reliable source when they are introducing me at conferences and the like . 165.120.212.35 ( talk) 00:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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You might want to add this article: (there are one or two factual errors in it: I didn't chain myself to any railings and Trident wasn't stocked at Aldermaston. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.38.89.204 ( talk) 19:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/11827586/A-charming-unreconstructed-socialist.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/11827586/A-charming-unreconstructed-socialist.html
Should say something about his views as an educationalist and socialist political commentator.
Link to http://www.langandlit.ualberta.ca/Fall2004/SteigelBainbridge.html mentions this a bit --- he stood as an election candidate for Respect.
Not so sure about Connie. The obituaries give us a good start on Harold, and I certainly have a few bits of his stuff from the 60's and 70's in various educational anthologies. So I'll make a start when I next have an hour or two. Sjwells53 ( talk) 22:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Started a page on Harold. Hope it helps to fill in a bit of Michael's background. Would be very happy to see others expand it. It really needs a whole separate section of explanation of his ideas, into which some of the biography could be moved. Now we need to think about improving this page. Sjwells53 ( talk) 13:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I notice Michael has been joined up with SWP again. Unless this reflects a very recent change, it isn't true. In fact the user who put it in is apparently blocked, although has still managed to change this article. I'll leave it for a while, because I reckon Michael will be able to cast more light on it himself, then delete if this post is unchallenged. It's obvious Michael Rosen does share some of the perspectives of SWP, as do lots of other people who are not members. Membership is something much more specific and definite. Sjwells53 ( talk) 10:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC) Trustworthiness:Vendor reliability:Privacy:Child safety:
The following information was recently added to a "Trivia" section by an anonymous editor:
I've removed it from the main article for two reasons: (1) it is unreferenced; and (2) trivia sections are to be avoided as they encourage editors to add miscellaneous facts to the article. If references can be found for the information, it can be integrated back into the main text of the article. — Cheers, JackLee – talk– 10:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to tell you that I was given a gold Blue Peter badge. I was wearing it on Blue Peter a few weeks ago and someone asked me what I got it for? All the info is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2009/12_december/28/bluepeter.shtml
i'm a 1-armed typist at the moment as i hurt my shoulder through excessive repetitive editing...
the 'see above' refers to the son's illness - i had seen the death of the son before reading about his illness above. i didn't want to repeat the illness, so added that instead. perhaps 'as described above' would be clearer - Rothorpe ( talk) 17:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC) - also reverting 'see above' accidentally put in ref.
thanxx. i've moved it, as i prefer it thus, but change it back if you wish. Rothorpe ( talk) 21:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
ok, cheers - Rothorpe ( talk) 00:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello again folks, if you look at the From Here to Paternity article that you've referenced you'll see the correct names and ages of my children (as dated to that article). I challenge you to find that any of my progeny are called 'Eliza' ! best wishes again, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 23:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
HELLO! Just writing again to say that you've got my daughter's name wrong. Now someone's added in a fairly illiterate way something to do with a) my previous wife and b) the children eg 'here' for what I think should be 'their' ! best wishes, Michael Rosen. You can write to me at rosenmichael@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 15:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Have added several honorary degree awards but have left out the fact the University of North London, Middlesex University, and the Open University gave me honorary degrees because I can't reference them. I gave back my Middlesex University one because they closed the philosophy department and that was my protest about that. best wishes, Michael Rosen (rosenmichael@hotmail.com) — Preceding
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Correction, folks! University of North London and Middlesex were 'visiting professorships' not, repeat not, honorary degrees. So the only one missing from the list is the Open University and I can't find a press cutting for this to reference it. vbest, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 10:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Just to say that I am no longer Visiting Professor at Birkbeck. As you say, I am now Prof at Goldsmiths. Thanks a lot. Best Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.189.7.161 ( talk) 01:04, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
This is wrong: "He is currently Visiting Professor of Children's Literature at Birkbeck, University of London,[16] where he teaches Children's Literature and has devised an MA in Children's Literature, which commenced in October 2010 "He is currently Visiting Professor of Children's Literature at Birkbeck, University of London,[16] where he teaches Children's Literature and has devised an MA in Children's Literature, which commenced in October 2010." i am no longer employed by Birkbeck. Hope you can delete this soon. Best Michael
Hi, Philip Cross. You relocated a footnote from the end of a newly inserted block of information about Rosen's parents and ancestors to a place earlier in the block because not all the information was sourced from the reference in the footnote. This means the fragment "and Connie a primary school teacher before becoming a training college lecturer; she also broadcast for the BBC. Their ancestors came from Poland, Russia and Romania." is unreferenced. Are you able to locate a reference for it? If not, I think we should remove it from the article until it can be properly sourced. — Cheers, Truth's Out There – talk– 17:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I could have added a {{ fact}} tag but I thought I'd ask you first. Have you tried Googling to see if you can find a source? Adding a {{ fact}} tag is only a temporary fix: " Wikipedia:Citing sources#Unsourced material" says, "If a claim is doubtful but not harmful to the whole article or to Wikipedia, use the {{ fact}} tag, but remember to go back and remove the claim if no source is produced within a reasonable time." [Emphasis added.] — Cheers, Truth's Out There – talk– 18:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi guys - I don't seem to be able to log in. This is Michael again. Someone has maliciously deleted me from the category 'English Jews'. I see that no reason was given. I say 'maliciously' because it doesn't take long to find in the list of 'English Jews' plenty of Jews who are of similar background and belief-systems as me - e.g. my own father, Harold Rosen, who was brought up as a secular Jew. You can see quite clearly who has done this. I have no idea the exact reason for doing it but you can also see that this person sees him/herself as a rather cultured person. I suggest that if it becomes OK for someone to remove people from a list such as 'English Jews' then we are on a dangerous tack. It's not for one self-appointed person to decree that I am not an English Jew. Nasty times.
Hello. I see that I have been restored. Perhaps by you. If so, thanks. Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:AF20:3900:DD7:F29:5C50:D536 ( talk) 21:28, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi guys - I see that you are having problems over my middle name. It is actually Wayne. Here's an article in which I explain why it's Wayne: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/sep/08/michael-rosen-realising-that-poetry-was-performance-was-my-eureka-moment-
Hi guys, you've got the birth years of my children and the name of one of them wrong. best wishes, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.23.200 ( talk) 23:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Me again: you've got the reference to Beatrice Hastings wrong. It wasn't my mother who met BH. It was my father. He met her on account of HIS mother's acquaintance with her. This is in his autobiography 'Are You Still Circumcised?' (Five Leaves Press). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.209.92 ( talk) 19:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Guys, this part of the sentence is wrong: "... for example his mother's acquaintance with the bohemian literary figure Beatrice Hastings made an impression on him as a child.[6]
That wasn't my mother. It was my father's mother who knew Beatrice Hastings. This is, as I've said, documented in 'Are You Still Circumcised?' by Harold Rosen (Five Leaves Press) and will be repeated in 'So They Call You Pisher!' (Verso) coming out in September 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.222.173 ( talk) 08:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
You haven't read the article from the New Statesman properly! Rose is not my mother. She's my father's mother. Look:
"I remember Rose when she was old and not very coherent but it was clear that she was someone whom people wanted to see. My father described their house behind the London Hospital, on Whitechapel Road, as somewhere that seamen from Russia and Jamaica would come but also how she seemed to know some posh Communists, such as the bohemian Beatrice Hastings, once the model for Modigliani."
My mother was Connie, as you've said.
PLEASE CHANGE THIS. JUST READ THE ARTICLE YOU'VE CITED AND USE THE INFORMATION THERE, RATHER THAN MAKE UP YOUR OWN STORIES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.217.144 ( talk) 10:41, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
This sentence is factually wrong, as I've explained several times above: "They eventually left the Communist Party in 1957. Michael never joined, but this background influenced his childhood, for example his mother's acquaintance with the bohemian literary figure Beatrice Hastings made an impression on him as a child.[6]"
IT IS WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T READ THE ARTICLE YOU'VE CITED! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.217.113 ( talk) 14:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Michael here. The Beatrice Hastings event didn't have an effect on me as a child because I didn't know about it until my dad wrote his memoir which wasn't until I was in my forties! It made an impression on HIM when he was a child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7280:EB00:A9E9:6938:7D74:F513 ( talk) 08:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Now, before anyone gets the wrong idea, I didn't come to this page just to look for "funny information about michael rosen YTPs and shits and giggles". However, his impact on internet culture - at least I believe - is at least noticable, but not to suggest that popular "YoutubePoops" should be included and referenced. Does anyone want to share their thoughts on the subject? I'm not entirely sure if the videos are noticable enough to warrant a mention in the first place. 71.196.173.180 ( talk) 08:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Michael here. 'We're Going on a Bear Hunt' is not a 'children's novel. You're getting a few giggles from people at that. It's a children's picture book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7280:EB00:A9E9:6938:7D74:F513 ( talk) 08:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
A mention of Michael Rosen's videos on YT keeps being added to the article. While on this occasion there is no problem with copyright, as it is clearly an official channel which Rosen links to from his website, it does not seem possible for notability to be established. I can only find a third-party reference on Times Education, but that appears to be user generated content which does not meet the requirements of being a reliable source. Philip Cross ( talk) 07:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Michael here. Our YouTube channel has had 100 million views. For a channel that is just made up of poems, stories, jokes and interviews with other writers (and some reviews of children's books made by children) that's quite a few!
The "Early Life" section focuses more on Michael's parents than Michael himself. Rectar2 ( talk) 23:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Michael here. Good point! Given that about 80% of my work is about my 'early life', it's both a bit odd and actually not hard to find out about! My memoir, 'So They Call You Pisher!' is not a bad source too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7280:EB00:A9E9:6938:7D74:F513 ( talk) 08:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
@
Pickuptha'Musket: I don't think that Rosen should be in the category for Internet memes. He's mentioned once in
YouTube Poop, inside a paragraph consisting of YouTube: Online Video and Participatory Culture notes that low-budget television shows such as Super Mario World and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, as well as cutscenes from video games for the Philips CD-i, popular movies, music videos, video games, commercials, and television shows including SpongeBob SquarePants, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, My Little Pony: Equestria Girls, Caillou, Barney and Friends, Thomas & Friends, King of the Hill, Disney/Pixar movies, Billy Mays, Michael Rosen, Wilford Brimley, "Gangnam Style", The Room, The Wiggles, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, Team Fortress 2, How It's Made and ChuckleVision are frequently used as sources.
It's also never mentioned in this article, which it should if it's such an integral, notable part of his fame.
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I'm three years late to this discussion but he's definitely well-known as a meme (or at the very least was one). However, if and only if we find third-party reliable secondary sources that mention his status as a meme should we include this. For the last decades there has been no shortage of Michael Rosen meme edits circulating, and if a reliable article mentions that it's worth mentioning as a footnote somewhere in the article. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 01:14, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I think it would be reasonable to mention his memes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.208.63 ( talk) 19:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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Michael Rosen here: you still haven't got the account of my stay in hospital(s) right. You've got the first phases right. Yes I did go into a geriatric ward. That was for about 10 days. Then - crucially - I was taken to another hospital, St Pancras Rehabilitation Hospital. i went there on June 3 and was there for 3 weeks. Why crucial? Because that's where they taught me how to stand up, then use a frame, then a wheel chair, then a stick and then finally to walk without a stick so that by the end, I could walk from the ambulance to my front door unaided. I owe an enormous amount to the physiotherapists and occupational therapists there for what they did for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23CC:7280:E01:AC3E:BF84:966D:8071 ( talk) 00:15, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Should the section on when Michael Rosen was ill with covid-19 tell of the
Near-Death Experience he had while he was ill with this disease?
Rollo August (
talk) 19:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
I KNOW THAT YOU MOSTLY IGNORE WHAT I SAY BUT YOU'VE GOT THIS SERIOUSLY WRONG:
His wife had been told not to take him to hospital if possible, as part of the general advice to protect the NHS, but a doctor friend saw him and revealed that his blood oxygen level was dangerously low.[61] Having been taken to hospital, he was moved into the ICU on 29 March and then back to a ward, before being moved back into the ICU in early April. He left the ICU after 47 days.[62][63] By 6 June, he was recuperating at Whittington Hospital.[64][65]
MY WIFE WAS NOT TOLD 'TO NOT TAKE ME TO HOSPITAL AS PART OF THE GENERAL ADVICE TO PROTECT THE NHS'. THE SIMON HATTENSTONE ARTICLE YOU'VE REFERENCED DOESN'T SAY THAT. YOU'VE JUST MADE THAT UP. SECONDLY, I WAS MOVED TO A GERIATRIC WARD AT THE WHITTINGTON ON MAY 22 AND THEN MOVED TO ST PANCRAS REHAB HOSPITAL ON JUNE 2 WHERE I RECUPERATED TILL JUNE 23. YOU'VE GOT THAT VERY WRONG. — Preceding
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CHECKED WITH WIFE - THAT SHOULD BE THAT I WAS IN ST PANCRAS FROM JUNE 2 TO JUNE 23.
AWARD: https://www.childrensarts.org.uk/aca-news/michael-rosen-wins-the-2021-j-m-barrie-award/
Hi again, you could possibly include these awards too?
Sony Radio Academy Gold Award 2003 Radio short form: ‘On Saying Goodbye’
1997 Eleanor Farjeon Award for distinguished services to children’s literature — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23CC:7280:E00:CCD0:DCB3:6537:AAD ( talk) 19:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66028985
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jun/28/author-michael-rosen-wins-2023-pen-pinter-prize-for-fearless-body-of-work — Preceding
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/michael-rosen-chimamanda-ngozi-adichie-margaret-atwood-harold-pinter-pen-b2365694.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.26.52 ( talk) 21:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
https://www.thebookseller.com/news/rosen-wins-pen-pinter-prize-2023-for-rare-invaluable-gift — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.26.52 ( talk) 22:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Michael Rosen here again. You have me down as being 'professor of children's literature at Goldsmiths University of London' since 2014 but where you tell your readers what my job is, you don't mention this. This strikes me as strange because for nearly 10 years now I've been employed for two days work a week at Goldsmiths. It feels like a job to me. I realise that me commenting on my own wiki page didn't go down well with someone elsewhere on this Talk section but others have pointed out that it's OK because I'm not trying to edit the article and it's transparent that it's me anyway. Best wishes, Michael. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.58.178 ( talk) 00:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
It is my understanding that someone claiming to be the topic of this article has been providing information though this talk page and also engaging in disputes about what information to add to the article. This undeniably compromises this article's notability and thus I have added a notability template to the top of the article. I'd urge you to all become more civil on this talk page and fix these issues to make sure that there is no influence in the writing of this article from individuals close to the subject. — Preceding
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What about the allegations he downplayed anti-Semitism in the Labour Party? ( 86.140.123.8 ( talk) 17:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC))
Ok 42.108.160.10 ( talk) 09:21, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
In the subsection about Politics / Jeremy Corbyn there’s a paragraph about accusations of Anti-Semitism based on photoshopped images. The text moves on to what happened (eventual suicide) to the accuser, himself the subject of an article which deals with this matter in full.
This paragraph is not about Rosen or his politics and it does not mention Corbyn either. So I removed it, but another editor has reverted my change. I’m unhappy with that but would rather discuss it here than get into a revert war (so I won’t touch the paragraph today).
Options that occur to me:
For reasons above I would remove the paragraph: it doesn’t belong. Nick Levine ( talk) 08:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Michael would like that section to be removed, as he believes it to be libellous.
Is there someone with whom I should be in contact to pass on that message? Rijnveld's Early Sensation ( talk) 15:14, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
It's good to use a more up-to-date photo than the 2009 File:Michael Rosen.jpg photo that was used here for a while, but I feel it's not appropriate to use File:MICHAEL ROSEN 2022 (54).jpg as the main picture. We typically try to use photos that aren't too unflattering on biography articles. He just looks so... visibly diseased here. The skin around his left eye is all red and swollen, his left pupil is a different size than his right pupil, and the skin of his face just doesn't look very good. Nothing inherently wrong with showing someone's age with a recent photo, but I strongly doubt that this is the best one we could be using here.
If I recall correctly, the photo we were using on this article before that one wasn't really that outdated. I'll look around the revision history and try to confirm that. If it was actually too old to keep using, I'll try to see if there are better ones on commons and suggest some here.
Vanilla Wizard 💙 18:13, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I notice that many writers on wikipedia have a list of books they've written. I gather it's not appropriate that I add these myself. For anyone interested in doing this, here's a complete list of my books: https://www.michaelrosen.co.uk/bibliography/ Best wishes Michael 86.191.123.238 ( talk) 20:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi Michael Rosen here. This is not an edit. It's a comment. I have tried to tell you several times that you have the Beatrix Hastings story wrong. I've explained how you've got it wrong and where you can go to get it right. Next: the number of books is wrong. You can get the right number from my website where they are listed. You are about 60 books wrong. Under politics, you say that I'm 'Labour' since 2015. This doesn't represent my politics. Finally, one of my main occupations since the 1990s has been university lecturing/teaching either as a visiting professor or (for the last 20 years) as a professor. You don't list that under 'occupation'. The only problem with you getting these things wrong is that people use wiki as a reputable and reliable source when they are introducing me at conferences and the like . 165.120.212.35 ( talk) 00:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)