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"an instrument with additional bass strings that Hedges used to play Bach's Prelude to Cello Suite #1 in G Major in its intended key" On which album did he play this? I can't find it. I am a huge fan of Michael Hedges, having seen him perform in concert many years ago in the Live on the Double Planet tour at Auburn University.-- Jimbo Wales 02:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Jimbo, I'm pretty sure he didn't play it on an album, but he did it live...
Would you like a recording of him doing this?
GregMinton 04:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
TimLanier
22:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 07:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
was michael born in Enid OK, or in Sacramento, CA? Type3secretion 12:54, 7 April 2008
The reports say his body was only found several days after the accident. Therefore the death date 02-Dec-1997 seems wrong to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.35.192.45 ( talk) 19:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I added an external link Michael Hedges Tribute "You Were Always There" by Don Record which was almost immediately removed by User:Binksternet with the comment "rv promo". The video showcases many family photos of Michael and the song is written and performed by a childhood friend and bandmate. All proceeds from the public access tv produced video go to Michael's kids. Would anyone care to enlighten me as to how this external link does not enrich the information content of this article without being self promoting or whatever was being alleged ? Ronald Joe Record ( talk) 05:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
This new section is being started because of feedback given by Vmavanti. The initial revert of my edit was based on the fact that my reference was a video which had been posted to YouTube. That edit summary which stated "del youtube as source" conveyed the view that there is absolutely no video posted on YouTube which can possibly count as a reliable source (my words). This is clearly a misunderstanding of WP:NOYT. Policy does not guide us to never cite a YouTube video under any circumstance whatsoever. The reason this policy exists, as I see it, is as a general warning that anyone can post a video which says absolutely anything, so therefore in general, does not meet the RS standard. I re-added my edit, this time explaining that "No YouTube" is not a rule imposed upon us where there are no exceptions. The overriding rule of WP is the Catch 22 for editors: Ignore All Rules. That said, a closer look at NoYT shows that the policy makes a lot of sense.
So when I re-added my edit, I had explained this in my summary. The reason for this new Talk section now is that new criticisms have been raised. Those have been posted to my UserTalk, here. I myself see this ArticleTalk to be a much more useful place to engage in this discussion, so that others interested in these issues about this article will not need to go on any hunting trips. So Vmavanti, I invite you to continue the discussion here.
New criticisms have been raised. Perhaps the strongest is questioning whether the video I had cited was posted in violation of copyright law. I myself am not aware of any evidence of that. I did not post my edit because "I like this video". The reason for my edit was because I see this interview to contain extremely high quality information which can be quite useful for the purpose of improving the quality of the article. YouTube implements very powerful tools for policing copyright violations. One approach we could take here is trust the process they use.
Other criticism I've received is based upon comments I included in my edit summaries. Let's be clear that the level of scrutiny applied to anything I may have editorialized on in an Edit Summary has absolutely no bearing upon the content of the edit itself. The proof is in the pudding, and the summary ingredients are 0% pudding. Nothing. Nada. So disagree all you wish with what I have put in that space, but I suggest we keep our focus on actual edits.
I agree with that completely. It seems that the discrepancy here hinges upon what constitutes "present". Edits are info presented to the public. Edit summaries are not presented to the general public whatsoever. For a user to see a summary, they must click on a link which takes them away from Article Space and into this other realm where we editors interact. And the moment a user clicks on that type of link, they have exited the general public, and entered this other realm where a different set of rules apply. Like here in this TalkSpace. I am at liberty to announce to other editors that "I LIKE TURTLES". And it would be totally inappropriate for any other editor to come along and remove or change my statement.
I maintain that this Michael Hedges interview he did in his old hometown of Enid, Oklahoma with host Janice Andrukaitis has EXCELLENT nuggets of info we can use to improve our article. That said, I am totally open to arguments from anyone who feels otherwise. -- Concord19 ( talk) 07:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
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"an instrument with additional bass strings that Hedges used to play Bach's Prelude to Cello Suite #1 in G Major in its intended key" On which album did he play this? I can't find it. I am a huge fan of Michael Hedges, having seen him perform in concert many years ago in the Live on the Double Planet tour at Auburn University.-- Jimbo Wales 02:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Jimbo, I'm pretty sure he didn't play it on an album, but he did it live...
Would you like a recording of him doing this?
GregMinton 04:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
TimLanier
22:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Image:Hedges.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 07:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
was michael born in Enid OK, or in Sacramento, CA? Type3secretion 12:54, 7 April 2008
The reports say his body was only found several days after the accident. Therefore the death date 02-Dec-1997 seems wrong to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.35.192.45 ( talk) 19:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I added an external link Michael Hedges Tribute "You Were Always There" by Don Record which was almost immediately removed by User:Binksternet with the comment "rv promo". The video showcases many family photos of Michael and the song is written and performed by a childhood friend and bandmate. All proceeds from the public access tv produced video go to Michael's kids. Would anyone care to enlighten me as to how this external link does not enrich the information content of this article without being self promoting or whatever was being alleged ? Ronald Joe Record ( talk) 05:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
This new section is being started because of feedback given by Vmavanti. The initial revert of my edit was based on the fact that my reference was a video which had been posted to YouTube. That edit summary which stated "del youtube as source" conveyed the view that there is absolutely no video posted on YouTube which can possibly count as a reliable source (my words). This is clearly a misunderstanding of WP:NOYT. Policy does not guide us to never cite a YouTube video under any circumstance whatsoever. The reason this policy exists, as I see it, is as a general warning that anyone can post a video which says absolutely anything, so therefore in general, does not meet the RS standard. I re-added my edit, this time explaining that "No YouTube" is not a rule imposed upon us where there are no exceptions. The overriding rule of WP is the Catch 22 for editors: Ignore All Rules. That said, a closer look at NoYT shows that the policy makes a lot of sense.
So when I re-added my edit, I had explained this in my summary. The reason for this new Talk section now is that new criticisms have been raised. Those have been posted to my UserTalk, here. I myself see this ArticleTalk to be a much more useful place to engage in this discussion, so that others interested in these issues about this article will not need to go on any hunting trips. So Vmavanti, I invite you to continue the discussion here.
New criticisms have been raised. Perhaps the strongest is questioning whether the video I had cited was posted in violation of copyright law. I myself am not aware of any evidence of that. I did not post my edit because "I like this video". The reason for my edit was because I see this interview to contain extremely high quality information which can be quite useful for the purpose of improving the quality of the article. YouTube implements very powerful tools for policing copyright violations. One approach we could take here is trust the process they use.
Other criticism I've received is based upon comments I included in my edit summaries. Let's be clear that the level of scrutiny applied to anything I may have editorialized on in an Edit Summary has absolutely no bearing upon the content of the edit itself. The proof is in the pudding, and the summary ingredients are 0% pudding. Nothing. Nada. So disagree all you wish with what I have put in that space, but I suggest we keep our focus on actual edits.
I agree with that completely. It seems that the discrepancy here hinges upon what constitutes "present". Edits are info presented to the public. Edit summaries are not presented to the general public whatsoever. For a user to see a summary, they must click on a link which takes them away from Article Space and into this other realm where we editors interact. And the moment a user clicks on that type of link, they have exited the general public, and entered this other realm where a different set of rules apply. Like here in this TalkSpace. I am at liberty to announce to other editors that "I LIKE TURTLES". And it would be totally inappropriate for any other editor to come along and remove or change my statement.
I maintain that this Michael Hedges interview he did in his old hometown of Enid, Oklahoma with host Janice Andrukaitis has EXCELLENT nuggets of info we can use to improve our article. That said, I am totally open to arguments from anyone who feels otherwise. -- Concord19 ( talk) 07:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)