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Now that I've had some time to mull it over and have a chance to do this w/sourcing:
In July of 2005, Graham used Islam and terrorism as the basis for a multi-day discussion on his WMAL talk radio show. [1] This discussion prompted over one hundred complaints to the station from CAIR [2] regarding Graham's statements, ultimately prompting WMAL to suspend him. After Graham declined to comply with the station's requests in order to get on air, he was let go. [3] The situation prompted angry editorials from Graham [4] as well as appearances on national television programs to discuss the firing.
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Graham attended a rally to protest the Real ID Act, sponsored by Casa de Maryland in May of 2005. [5] He was photographed in an INS shirt, and was blocked from entering the event even as he showed ABC Radio credentials, with officials citing public safety. An altercation ensued, and police were called, with a second altercation occurring following their arrival. After questioning, Graham was allowed to enter the event with his shirt turned inside out. [6]
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I'm not sure how to deal with the other sections - the Columbine thing seems rather minor and non-notable in the whole scheme of things, and the righttalk portion seems minor and too speculative. Thoughts? Also, sannse, was the original removal considered a WP:OFFICE situation, just for reference? -- badlydrawnjeff ( WP:MEME?) 19:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I put a lot of effort into this page back in December of 2005. I got into a back and forth with another guy who wanted to put a negative spin on Graham. I was eventually very satisfied with an article that went point by point to explain the facts, supported with sources, and providing proper context, of the "Islam is Terror" and "Real ID" incidents. Then is one stroke, Jeff decided the article was poorly written and wiped away all the detail and we're left with vague statements that lack detail or context that would allow a reader to be truly informed of the event (that the four shows followed the London bombings, step by step of CAIR's statements and WMALs reaction, with all the links). I just don't know if I have the patience to try to revert things. I am discouraged that the article just sucks so bad right now. Blcartwright 05:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
No response, Jeffrey? I posed the question to you a good two weeks ago!
Jeff, you replaced my edit with the prior wording which read "In July of 2005, Graham used Islam and terrorism as the basis for a multi-day discussion on his WMAL talk radio show.[9] This discussion prompted over one hundred complaints to the station and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued action alerts to its subscribers encouraging them to contact WMAL to urge that "Graham be reprimanded for his anti-Islam statements"[10], ultimately prompting WMAL to suspend him." I think this is not factual. The complaints were not about islam and terrorism being discussed. The complaints referred to his specific reference to islam being "a terrorist organization" that is "at war with America." I suggest you read the referenced article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.189.62 ( talk • contribs)
I refer you to link number 11, the second washington post article.
"Washington radio station WMAL-AM fired talk show host Michael Graham yesterday after he refused to soften his description of Islam as "a terrorist organization" on the air last month." and "According to WMAL, Graham said "Islam is a terrorist organization" 23 times on his July 25 program. On the same show, he also said repeatedly that "moderate Muslims are those who only want to kill Jews" and that "the problem is not extremism. The problem is Islam."....The comments drew complaints and prompted an organized letter-writing campaign against WMAL and its advertisers by a Muslim group, the Council on American-Islam Relations (CAIR) of Washington."
Graham was suspended and eventually fired over his comments, not the discussion.
Are you willing to accept the compromise wording I have offered, or can you offer another solution? 151.200.189.62 18:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Graham was let go not for "discussing" islam and terrorism. In his own words, he was suspended because of his comments that "Islam is a terrorist organization", and eventually fired for refusing to apologize and perform penence for saying it. I cannot see any other way to put this....why do you continue to want to sugarcoat it? Now, are you willing to work towards a compromise wording that finds a middle ground using Graham's own account of the controversy? 68.50.149.214 04:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I agree with your belief that it meets it. Your prior comments haven't demonstrated a proper concern for it, and I still feel that the tone issues exist with your current edits. With zero attributation and no idea where else you're coming from, not much else can be said, and I can't imagine anything extra coming from it. If you feel that strongly, try an RfC, but I think this is not a good road to head down. -- badlydrawnjeff talk 16:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed an unsourced section about his marital status and children for BLP reasons. It's not an objection to some of the info being in the article, (although details on the children likely should remain out), however we need sourcing first.-- Cube lurker ( talk) 17:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Today, 7 Feb '11 at about 1:15 PM, Graham announced to his radio audience that
Aguilera's flubbing of the
The Star-Spangled Banner's lyrics
yesterday were the fault of WP because she used WP as her source for the lyrics. Oh really! Please note today's history to view his the trolls at work on his behalf :-(
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Michael Graham is a media personality and conservative commentator based in Boston, MA. He's a Boston Herald columnist, a CBS News contributor and hosts a daily podcast for the conservative platform Ricochet.com
Graham is also a regular on George Hook's weekly radio show on Newstalk in Ireland.
EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE OPENING PARAGRAPH SHOULD GO AWAY. It's either factually incorrect or utterly irrelevant.
Here are the links to substantiate the above:
https://ricochet.com/series/michael-graham-morning/
http://www.bostonherald.com/users/michael_graham
https://www.cbsnews.com/search/?q=michael+graham
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For years I've ignored the fact that there actually IS a Wikipedia page about me, and I still request--AGAIN--that Wikipedia take it down. Because, really, who cares? No kid is going to be foiled in his attempt to write a term paper and go "Darn! If only I had that key 'Michael Graham' info!" But whatever. I've lost this fight.
The problem is that I'm running into people who've used this page to get information related to commercial transactions, and this page is full of incorrect information and ridiculous spin from people who don't like me (once again--why bother? Go hate somebody who really matters)
And because Wikipedia won't let me correct the page, I'm stuck. So could somebody please fix the basics:
I live in Boston, not Washington, DC.
I am a contributor for CBS News, I write for the Boston Herald, and I host a podcast on Ricochet.com I also host a weekly radio show on talkRADIO in the UK
https://www.cbsnews.com/search/?q=michael+graham
http://www.bostonherald.com/users/michael_graham
https://ricochet.com/series/michael-graham-morning/
And that photo--AWFUL! How about something actually useful?
I won't even get into all the nonsense re: my "controversies," or the weird claims about my career. What does "Graham parted ways with the station in December 2012 as his contract was not renewed." even mean? WTKK--the talk radio station where I worked-FLIPPED FORMATS TO HIP HOP MUSIC. Of course my "contract wasn't renewed." And my audition as "Rap Master G-Money" didn't go as well as I'd hoped.
This is why I HATE wikipedia and don't understand why these pages even exist. Look, it could be worse: https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/usual-suspects-zwnj-help-ive-been-wikied/Content?oid=1103214
"He commutes to Boston daily by single-engine aircraft from the Provincetown, Massachusetts home he shares with his partner, a novelist." --From the "Michael Graham" article on Wikipedia.org
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THIS CRAP? I know Wiki doesn't care, there's no commitment to accuracy, and my politics are "wrong," etc. But maybe some basement dweller is bored enough to make these basic corrections?
I would say "thank you," but I wouldn't mean it. Why do I have to go through this in the first place?
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Now that I've had some time to mull it over and have a chance to do this w/sourcing:
In July of 2005, Graham used Islam and terrorism as the basis for a multi-day discussion on his WMAL talk radio show. [1] This discussion prompted over one hundred complaints to the station from CAIR [2] regarding Graham's statements, ultimately prompting WMAL to suspend him. After Graham declined to comply with the station's requests in order to get on air, he was let go. [3] The situation prompted angry editorials from Graham [4] as well as appearances on national television programs to discuss the firing.
---
Graham attended a rally to protest the Real ID Act, sponsored by Casa de Maryland in May of 2005. [5] He was photographed in an INS shirt, and was blocked from entering the event even as he showed ABC Radio credentials, with officials citing public safety. An altercation ensued, and police were called, with a second altercation occurring following their arrival. After questioning, Graham was allowed to enter the event with his shirt turned inside out. [6]
--
I'm not sure how to deal with the other sections - the Columbine thing seems rather minor and non-notable in the whole scheme of things, and the righttalk portion seems minor and too speculative. Thoughts? Also, sannse, was the original removal considered a WP:OFFICE situation, just for reference? -- badlydrawnjeff ( WP:MEME?) 19:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I put a lot of effort into this page back in December of 2005. I got into a back and forth with another guy who wanted to put a negative spin on Graham. I was eventually very satisfied with an article that went point by point to explain the facts, supported with sources, and providing proper context, of the "Islam is Terror" and "Real ID" incidents. Then is one stroke, Jeff decided the article was poorly written and wiped away all the detail and we're left with vague statements that lack detail or context that would allow a reader to be truly informed of the event (that the four shows followed the London bombings, step by step of CAIR's statements and WMALs reaction, with all the links). I just don't know if I have the patience to try to revert things. I am discouraged that the article just sucks so bad right now. Blcartwright 05:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
No response, Jeffrey? I posed the question to you a good two weeks ago!
Jeff, you replaced my edit with the prior wording which read "In July of 2005, Graham used Islam and terrorism as the basis for a multi-day discussion on his WMAL talk radio show.[9] This discussion prompted over one hundred complaints to the station and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued action alerts to its subscribers encouraging them to contact WMAL to urge that "Graham be reprimanded for his anti-Islam statements"[10], ultimately prompting WMAL to suspend him." I think this is not factual. The complaints were not about islam and terrorism being discussed. The complaints referred to his specific reference to islam being "a terrorist organization" that is "at war with America." I suggest you read the referenced article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.189.62 ( talk • contribs)
I refer you to link number 11, the second washington post article.
"Washington radio station WMAL-AM fired talk show host Michael Graham yesterday after he refused to soften his description of Islam as "a terrorist organization" on the air last month." and "According to WMAL, Graham said "Islam is a terrorist organization" 23 times on his July 25 program. On the same show, he also said repeatedly that "moderate Muslims are those who only want to kill Jews" and that "the problem is not extremism. The problem is Islam."....The comments drew complaints and prompted an organized letter-writing campaign against WMAL and its advertisers by a Muslim group, the Council on American-Islam Relations (CAIR) of Washington."
Graham was suspended and eventually fired over his comments, not the discussion.
Are you willing to accept the compromise wording I have offered, or can you offer another solution? 151.200.189.62 18:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Graham was let go not for "discussing" islam and terrorism. In his own words, he was suspended because of his comments that "Islam is a terrorist organization", and eventually fired for refusing to apologize and perform penence for saying it. I cannot see any other way to put this....why do you continue to want to sugarcoat it? Now, are you willing to work towards a compromise wording that finds a middle ground using Graham's own account of the controversy? 68.50.149.214 04:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I agree with your belief that it meets it. Your prior comments haven't demonstrated a proper concern for it, and I still feel that the tone issues exist with your current edits. With zero attributation and no idea where else you're coming from, not much else can be said, and I can't imagine anything extra coming from it. If you feel that strongly, try an RfC, but I think this is not a good road to head down. -- badlydrawnjeff talk 16:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed an unsourced section about his marital status and children for BLP reasons. It's not an objection to some of the info being in the article, (although details on the children likely should remain out), however we need sourcing first.-- Cube lurker ( talk) 17:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Today, 7 Feb '11 at about 1:15 PM, Graham announced to his radio audience that
Aguilera's flubbing of the
The Star-Spangled Banner's lyrics
yesterday were the fault of WP because she used WP as her source for the lyrics. Oh really! Please note today's history to view his the trolls at work on his behalf :-(
hydnjo (
talk) 23:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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Michael Graham is a media personality and conservative commentator based in Boston, MA. He's a Boston Herald columnist, a CBS News contributor and hosts a daily podcast for the conservative platform Ricochet.com
Graham is also a regular on George Hook's weekly radio show on Newstalk in Ireland.
EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE OPENING PARAGRAPH SHOULD GO AWAY. It's either factually incorrect or utterly irrelevant.
Here are the links to substantiate the above:
https://ricochet.com/series/michael-graham-morning/
http://www.bostonherald.com/users/michael_graham
https://www.cbsnews.com/search/?q=michael+graham
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ᔦᔭ 11:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
For years I've ignored the fact that there actually IS a Wikipedia page about me, and I still request--AGAIN--that Wikipedia take it down. Because, really, who cares? No kid is going to be foiled in his attempt to write a term paper and go "Darn! If only I had that key 'Michael Graham' info!" But whatever. I've lost this fight.
The problem is that I'm running into people who've used this page to get information related to commercial transactions, and this page is full of incorrect information and ridiculous spin from people who don't like me (once again--why bother? Go hate somebody who really matters)
And because Wikipedia won't let me correct the page, I'm stuck. So could somebody please fix the basics:
I live in Boston, not Washington, DC.
I am a contributor for CBS News, I write for the Boston Herald, and I host a podcast on Ricochet.com I also host a weekly radio show on talkRADIO in the UK
https://www.cbsnews.com/search/?q=michael+graham
http://www.bostonherald.com/users/michael_graham
https://ricochet.com/series/michael-graham-morning/
And that photo--AWFUL! How about something actually useful?
I won't even get into all the nonsense re: my "controversies," or the weird claims about my career. What does "Graham parted ways with the station in December 2012 as his contract was not renewed." even mean? WTKK--the talk radio station where I worked-FLIPPED FORMATS TO HIP HOP MUSIC. Of course my "contract wasn't renewed." And my audition as "Rap Master G-Money" didn't go as well as I'd hoped.
This is why I HATE wikipedia and don't understand why these pages even exist. Look, it could be worse: https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/usual-suspects-zwnj-help-ive-been-wikied/Content?oid=1103214
"He commutes to Boston daily by single-engine aircraft from the Provincetown, Massachusetts home he shares with his partner, a novelist." --From the "Michael Graham" article on Wikipedia.org
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THIS CRAP? I know Wiki doesn't care, there's no commitment to accuracy, and my politics are "wrong," etc. But maybe some basement dweller is bored enough to make these basic corrections?
I would say "thank you," but I wouldn't mean it. Why do I have to go through this in the first place?
Mgraham969 ( talk) 14:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)