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I've proposed that all articles on candidates on the upcoming presidential election be semi protected until the 28th of October. This is owing to all of these articles coming under increasing pressure from vandals and unregistered/newly-registered editors with obvious axes to grind.
I've opened a general discussion on this at at WikiProject Ireland. -- RA ( talk) 17:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know (with citation) what postgraduate academic awards he received at Manchester and Illinois? For example, is he a PhD? -- Red King ( talk) 20:01, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
This is more of a vexation, but there is no such thing as "President-elect of Ireland". It is not an office or a title of any sort. The office that Michael D has been elected to is President of Ireland. He will not take that office until November 11, so currently currently he can be described as being "president-elect". -- RA ( talk) 08:58, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I have removed the following changes by User:Betterthanbook and thoroughly scolded the perpetrator. The president-elect is not a hobbit and he is not a house elf. He may be old, he may be wrinkly, he may even require a box to fulfill his duties but he is certainly not a hobbit. [1] [2] [3] -- 86.40.111.46 ( talk) 18:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I added Mr. Higgins's height after researching what it was. This edit was reverted and I will now reinstate it on the following basis: Higgins is frequently noted as being short, and this raises the question, "Well, how short is that, anyway?" Something so often mentioned in public commentary arouses curiosity, and an encyclopaedia is a good place to satisfy public interest about the actual statistic.
For some time, I have also wondered how tall, exactly, was Éamon de Valera, whose well-known nickname was "The Long Fellow". This, too, aroused curiosity about the exact statistic. I plan to add de Valera's height to his article, too, because I went to that Wikipedia article a long time ago to find out how tall he was, and the article contained no mention of it. I discovered the answer a few days ago.
Sean T. O'Kelly was another notably small Irish president, although I anticipate that I may not discover his height so easily, if ever.
President Higgins is noted for another physical characteristic: his recently acquired limp. The cause of that is overlooked in his Wikipedia article, and I propose to include a note about that, too. People do wonder about such things and it is not merely trivia, nor is it any kind of subtle mockery of a subject to record notable statistics about him.
I ask that Higgins's height not be removed again without consensus. — O'Dea ( talk) 17:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Higgins broke his knee in Colombia in 2010, but when he was seeking the Labour Party nomination to contest the Presidency in September 2004, a contemporary RTÉ news report by David McCullagh reported [Youtube recording],
"There's been speculation for months about whether Michael D Higgins would run for the Presidency. Today, he told Labour TDs and Senators that he was willing to do so, that his recent knee operation wouldn't prevent him, and that it would be good for the party and for the presidency to have a contest."
Does anyone know anything about this knee operation in (circa) 2004?
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The President's wife has, heretofore, been referred to generally by her maiden name, Sabina Coyne. A report of the President's first official engagement at Áras an Uachtaráin* reveals that his wife appears to be called Sabina Higgins in formal Áras an Uachtaráin usage. I note this here for information only and do not plan to alter the article, given her long-standing identification by her maiden surname.
(* Clarification: This was the first official engagement at his official residence, but not his first official engagement which was the day before at the Remembrance Sunday service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin on 13 November 2011.) — O'Dea ( talk) 15:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
http://www.leftaction.com/action/thank-irish-president-tea-party-smackdown Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 16:45, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Assume his interest in the work of Bob Dylan is not noteworthy enough?
Slane Castle 1984 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdRicardo ( talk • contribs) 13:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
According to her Wikipedia article, Mary Robinson was the first serving President of Ireland to visit Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace. So what is the difference between Robinson's visit and that of Higgins? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.141.126.243 ( talk) 02:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
It says here "He has contributed widely to political and philosophical journals on numerous subjects... clientism in politics...."
Now is it "Clientism" (aka " Clientitis") or " Clientelism" that is meant here. I suspect it is the latter but I am unfamiliar with his writings. Can someone explicate please. Silent Billy ( talk) 09:22, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
It should be 'clientelism'. In 1982 he wrote a chapter called 'The Limits of Clientelism: Towards an Assessment of Irish Politics' in C. Clapham (ed.), PRIVATE PATRONAGE AND PUBLIC POWER: POLITICAL CLIENTELISM IN THE MODERN STATE, London: Frances Pinter. BobBadg ( talk) 18:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Teachta Dála In office February 1987 – February 2011 June 1981 – November 1982
Senator In office 23 February 1983 – 3 April 1987
(adapted from infobox text)
Is it really the case that President Higgins was simultaneously a member of the Dáil and of the Seanad for about six weeks? (edited to correct erroneous month in previous version of infobox] Harfarhs ( talk) 20:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
A total "Puff" piece - no Critical Section.
President Higgins is a far leftist who has supported anti Western terrorist movements and socialist regimes all over the world - his entire adult life. But one would not know this from the article, which presents his support for socialist terrorists and vicious socialist regimes (all round the world) as well as Islamists in the Middle East, as work for "justice" and "peace". 2A02:C7D:B5E6:6400:F4AC:7B24:6A4F:6806 ( talk) 11:58, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Higgins received an honorary doctorate from The University of Melbourne in 2017. I think thats worth mentioning but I'm not sure where. Source. -- MyNam e IsNotBob 07:31, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Michael Higgins has supported Marxist regimes and Marxist terrorist groups all his adult life (he is what is called a "Fellow Traveller" - someone who supports the Marxists without being a member of a Marxist political party himself) - although that is hinted at in the article (for example his mourning for the death of the mass murderer and dictator Fidel Castro), someone who did not already know what Michael Higgins is would not know by reading this article. Michael Higgins is not a harmless "hobbit" or "elf" - he is a human being, but he is also a evil human being, a deeply evil human being. American "liberals" may be fooled by his "charm" (what my Irish grandfather would have called "blarney") - but people who live closer to the Republic of Ireland know only too well what Michael Higgins is. The modern American habit (see all too often in Wikipedia articles) of confusing Frankfurt School Marxism and "Fellow Travellers" (for Mr Higgins makes a big thing of never actually being a card carrying member of a Marxist political party) with liberalism, is rather annoying. 2A02:C7D:B47A:C900:D01D:FC6C:A73A:46F0 ( talk) 19:04, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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Please add him to the recently requested Category:TG4 people. He was involved in its establishment when Minister, as this BBC piece states. -- 2001:BB6:A93:AB58:7CCF:F3B7:8A1D:BD82 ( talk) 03:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
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"Lack of discussion is not reason to remove tag when issue remains unsolved" - so apparently there's an issue? Nobody has bothered explaining what the "issue" is, though? "Irrelevance", maybe, from the tag name? Bród and Síoda currently merit a single sentence in the article, between them. This would not strike me as being undue - especially given the large public and media interest in Síoda (15,200 ghits) and Bród (330,000 ghits). The extent of this coverage would also be commensurate with Mrs Windsor's mention of her corgis, none of whom are named, apart from her first one, or Barack Obama's Bo and Sunny. I therefore propose removing the 'relevance inline' templates from this sentence. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:10, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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Minor grammatical error. Second paragraph; "He has used his time in office a president to address issues..." change to "He has used his time in office as president to address issues..." Lyonnc ( talk) 13:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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125.238.249.255 ( talk) 11:27, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Provide a second Leo Varadkar in Taoiseach area.
Is it possible to replace the picture of the disgraced former First Minister of Scotland from the page? She is the former leader of a minor party in the UK, and was never a head of government. Her current notoriety distracts from the page of one of the most distinguished leaders of Ireland. Would there be a more better candidate to appear alongside our President, perhaps a head of state or government or other high ranking figure in the world of politics? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.25.205 ( talk) 15:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
The redirect First Inauguration of Michael D. Higgins has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28 § First Inauguration of Michael D. Higgins until a consensus is reached. Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 12:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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I've proposed that all articles on candidates on the upcoming presidential election be semi protected until the 28th of October. This is owing to all of these articles coming under increasing pressure from vandals and unregistered/newly-registered editors with obvious axes to grind.
I've opened a general discussion on this at at WikiProject Ireland. -- RA ( talk) 17:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know (with citation) what postgraduate academic awards he received at Manchester and Illinois? For example, is he a PhD? -- Red King ( talk) 20:01, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
This is more of a vexation, but there is no such thing as "President-elect of Ireland". It is not an office or a title of any sort. The office that Michael D has been elected to is President of Ireland. He will not take that office until November 11, so currently currently he can be described as being "president-elect". -- RA ( talk) 08:58, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I have removed the following changes by User:Betterthanbook and thoroughly scolded the perpetrator. The president-elect is not a hobbit and he is not a house elf. He may be old, he may be wrinkly, he may even require a box to fulfill his duties but he is certainly not a hobbit. [1] [2] [3] -- 86.40.111.46 ( talk) 18:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I added Mr. Higgins's height after researching what it was. This edit was reverted and I will now reinstate it on the following basis: Higgins is frequently noted as being short, and this raises the question, "Well, how short is that, anyway?" Something so often mentioned in public commentary arouses curiosity, and an encyclopaedia is a good place to satisfy public interest about the actual statistic.
For some time, I have also wondered how tall, exactly, was Éamon de Valera, whose well-known nickname was "The Long Fellow". This, too, aroused curiosity about the exact statistic. I plan to add de Valera's height to his article, too, because I went to that Wikipedia article a long time ago to find out how tall he was, and the article contained no mention of it. I discovered the answer a few days ago.
Sean T. O'Kelly was another notably small Irish president, although I anticipate that I may not discover his height so easily, if ever.
President Higgins is noted for another physical characteristic: his recently acquired limp. The cause of that is overlooked in his Wikipedia article, and I propose to include a note about that, too. People do wonder about such things and it is not merely trivia, nor is it any kind of subtle mockery of a subject to record notable statistics about him.
I ask that Higgins's height not be removed again without consensus. — O'Dea ( talk) 17:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Higgins broke his knee in Colombia in 2010, but when he was seeking the Labour Party nomination to contest the Presidency in September 2004, a contemporary RTÉ news report by David McCullagh reported [Youtube recording],
"There's been speculation for months about whether Michael D Higgins would run for the Presidency. Today, he told Labour TDs and Senators that he was willing to do so, that his recent knee operation wouldn't prevent him, and that it would be good for the party and for the presidency to have a contest."
Does anyone know anything about this knee operation in (circa) 2004?
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File:MichaelDHigginsPoster.jpg, has been nominated for deletion at
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The President's wife has, heretofore, been referred to generally by her maiden name, Sabina Coyne. A report of the President's first official engagement at Áras an Uachtaráin* reveals that his wife appears to be called Sabina Higgins in formal Áras an Uachtaráin usage. I note this here for information only and do not plan to alter the article, given her long-standing identification by her maiden surname.
(* Clarification: This was the first official engagement at his official residence, but not his first official engagement which was the day before at the Remembrance Sunday service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin on 13 November 2011.) — O'Dea ( talk) 15:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
http://www.leftaction.com/action/thank-irish-president-tea-party-smackdown Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 16:45, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Assume his interest in the work of Bob Dylan is not noteworthy enough?
Slane Castle 1984 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdRicardo ( talk • contribs) 13:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
According to her Wikipedia article, Mary Robinson was the first serving President of Ireland to visit Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace. So what is the difference between Robinson's visit and that of Higgins? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.141.126.243 ( talk) 02:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
It says here "He has contributed widely to political and philosophical journals on numerous subjects... clientism in politics...."
Now is it "Clientism" (aka " Clientitis") or " Clientelism" that is meant here. I suspect it is the latter but I am unfamiliar with his writings. Can someone explicate please. Silent Billy ( talk) 09:22, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
It should be 'clientelism'. In 1982 he wrote a chapter called 'The Limits of Clientelism: Towards an Assessment of Irish Politics' in C. Clapham (ed.), PRIVATE PATRONAGE AND PUBLIC POWER: POLITICAL CLIENTELISM IN THE MODERN STATE, London: Frances Pinter. BobBadg ( talk) 18:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Teachta Dála In office February 1987 – February 2011 June 1981 – November 1982
Senator In office 23 February 1983 – 3 April 1987
(adapted from infobox text)
Is it really the case that President Higgins was simultaneously a member of the Dáil and of the Seanad for about six weeks? (edited to correct erroneous month in previous version of infobox] Harfarhs ( talk) 20:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
A total "Puff" piece - no Critical Section.
President Higgins is a far leftist who has supported anti Western terrorist movements and socialist regimes all over the world - his entire adult life. But one would not know this from the article, which presents his support for socialist terrorists and vicious socialist regimes (all round the world) as well as Islamists in the Middle East, as work for "justice" and "peace". 2A02:C7D:B5E6:6400:F4AC:7B24:6A4F:6806 ( talk) 11:58, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Higgins received an honorary doctorate from The University of Melbourne in 2017. I think thats worth mentioning but I'm not sure where. Source. -- MyNam e IsNotBob 07:31, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Michael Higgins has supported Marxist regimes and Marxist terrorist groups all his adult life (he is what is called a "Fellow Traveller" - someone who supports the Marxists without being a member of a Marxist political party himself) - although that is hinted at in the article (for example his mourning for the death of the mass murderer and dictator Fidel Castro), someone who did not already know what Michael Higgins is would not know by reading this article. Michael Higgins is not a harmless "hobbit" or "elf" - he is a human being, but he is also a evil human being, a deeply evil human being. American "liberals" may be fooled by his "charm" (what my Irish grandfather would have called "blarney") - but people who live closer to the Republic of Ireland know only too well what Michael Higgins is. The modern American habit (see all too often in Wikipedia articles) of confusing Frankfurt School Marxism and "Fellow Travellers" (for Mr Higgins makes a big thing of never actually being a card carrying member of a Marxist political party) with liberalism, is rather annoying. 2A02:C7D:B47A:C900:D01D:FC6C:A73A:46F0 ( talk) 19:04, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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Please add him to the recently requested Category:TG4 people. He was involved in its establishment when Minister, as this BBC piece states. -- 2001:BB6:A93:AB58:7CCF:F3B7:8A1D:BD82 ( talk) 03:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
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"Lack of discussion is not reason to remove tag when issue remains unsolved" - so apparently there's an issue? Nobody has bothered explaining what the "issue" is, though? "Irrelevance", maybe, from the tag name? Bród and Síoda currently merit a single sentence in the article, between them. This would not strike me as being undue - especially given the large public and media interest in Síoda (15,200 ghits) and Bród (330,000 ghits). The extent of this coverage would also be commensurate with Mrs Windsor's mention of her corgis, none of whom are named, apart from her first one, or Barack Obama's Bo and Sunny. I therefore propose removing the 'relevance inline' templates from this sentence. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:10, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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Minor grammatical error. Second paragraph; "He has used his time in office a president to address issues..." change to "He has used his time in office as president to address issues..." Lyonnc ( talk) 13:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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125.238.249.255 ( talk) 11:27, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Provide a second Leo Varadkar in Taoiseach area.
Is it possible to replace the picture of the disgraced former First Minister of Scotland from the page? She is the former leader of a minor party in the UK, and was never a head of government. Her current notoriety distracts from the page of one of the most distinguished leaders of Ireland. Would there be a more better candidate to appear alongside our President, perhaps a head of state or government or other high ranking figure in the world of politics? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.25.205 ( talk) 15:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
The redirect First Inauguration of Michael D. Higgins has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28 § First Inauguration of Michael D. Higgins until a consensus is reached. Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 12:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)