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Miamitom 12:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Okidoke ... I'll post a cropped version. :) -t-
Miamitom, The cropped version of the photo looks good! -- Miamiomar 00:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Miamitom, We usually prefer a more complete skyline photo angle, but the latest skyline photo looks pretty good. Would it be possible for you to crop the photo to show more skyline with less water and sky? I think that'd make it look even better in the article. Also, it looks like there is some boat wake something at the bottom. We appreciate anything you can do to improve it. Thanks for the photo!-- MIA777 00:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Makes sense that it's tough to get the whole skyline looking good in the photo box. Larger cities like New York or Chicago tend to put only a fraction of the skyline, but they make sure the picture is filled solid with buildings. That gives the impression there is more. If we are only going to show a portion of the skyline to look good in the small box, I think it should be cut better to show the larger buildings in better detail with no end to the skyline in sight. -- Rstepp 01:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Miamitom 14:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC) This guy Mark Averette Marc Averetteis very insecure about allowing anyone else to post photos on this page or on the South Beach pages. As a result of this childish pettiness, I am not going to post any more photos, although I have many, unless you all find a way to override him. I find that although Wikipedia claims to be a place where "all" can contribute, there are those like him who like to make these kinds of sites into their own little fiefdoms. Let me know once you have this settled and I'll be happy to post more.
The article cited a high temperature record of 103 F on July 17, 2010. Neither www.weather.com nor www.wunderground.com agrees with this figure. I have changed it to the official record of 98 F. And same with the record low. I have no idea where he got 27 F. As to 20 F in Homestead, that is also bogus, besides not being particularly relevant since Homestead is a separate city, about 30 mi from Miami. Even his citation only says that 20 F was recorded in unspecified locations, namely "[s]ections of Dade and Broward Counties plummeted to record minimum temperatures as low as 20 oF (-6.6 oC), and remained below freezing for 10-14 hours." It does not specify Homestead, whose official low temp record is 26 F. People should not use Wikipedia to bs about the weather.
There is some confusion in the Demographics section. It says "The racial makeup of the city is 66.62% White, 22.31% African American, 0.25% Native American, 0.66% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 5.42% from other races, and 4.74% from two or more races. 65.76% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race."The 66% White and 65% Hispanic are conflicting. If you factor in 65% and 22% for African Americans that leaves 13% for Whites. Could someone clarify/correct this? I know for sure that 65% is Hispanic but the rest is unclear. Milk 02:24, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hispanic is not a racial group, it's the people who speak spanish and they can be white, black or american natives. In countries like Argentina, Spain, Chile or Uruguay all the people is hispanic and white.
The demographic section definitely needs some adjustment; a reference (to the Census for example) would be helpful, as would clarification of racial make-up. As someone stated Hispanics are not a race, but the article should mention that the 4.75% of people from two or more races excludes people who classify themselves as Hispanic, since a preponderance of Hispanics are of mixed races. 69.84.100.123 21:25, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Considering how high Miami's crime rate is, why is it crammed in with demographic information so that it's barely noticeable, especially if it ranks so high among the FBI's list of dangerous cities? I think more should be said about it.( 72.144.183.207 00:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC))
Does it seem logical to anyone else to modify "television and film" to "media" and include Grand Theft Auto: Vice City as based on the city? - Ickle
GTA:VC is surely set in Vice City, no? By that logic, are Superman and Batman set in New York? john k 06:12, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Well, Gotham was indeed thought to be the comicbook version of NYC, yes. And Gotham is NYC's nickname -- see, for example, the Gotham Center for New York City History ( http://www.gothamcenter.org/) or the Gotham Gazette ( http://www.gothamgazette.com/). About Vice City representing Miami, I attend university in Miami, and Vice City certainly looks like Miami to me. There is no other city with the same reputation, tropical climate, seaside setting, topography, urban landscape, and ethnic composition in the US, so it's not really a stretch. ~kali June, 2004
Is this sentence a mistake? the City of Miami was incorporated with 344 citizens (243 of which were identified as white and 181 as black.
In order for 243 people to be white and 181 to be black, there would have to be some overlap--some people would have to identify as both categories. But in the 1890s, I don't think people were allowed to check more than one racial category in the census. Can anyone find accurate data? Funnyhat 02:16, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know the source for these numbers? Helen Muir, in Miami, U.S.A., says that Miami was incorported with 502 registered voters, and mentions a Black artillery of 100 men brought in by Flagler's people to help elect a mayor favorable to the railroad. The 344 number may come from [2], but it doesn't break down the numbers by race, but just says a sizable percentage were black. And this site [3] says Miami had a population of just over 300. As only adult males could register to vote, 344 (or 502) registered voters implies maybe twice that number of residents (allowing for a lot of single men brought in as laborers on the railroad attracked to a boom town). -- Dalbury( Talk) 00:13, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Judge Marilyn Milian is a well-known resident of Miami. She wasn't born there, but she moved there when she was 8. Shouldn't she be on one of those lists?
There was never a USFL franchise called the Miami Federals. There was the Washington Federals (1983-1984) who were reincarnated as the Orlando Renegades (1985).
Anyone notice that most of those external links have to do with Miami Beach and not Miami... these are two separate cities... perhaps they should be removed and placed there? PRueda29 15:31, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be appropriate for a list of all of the mayors of the City of Miami to be added to this page.
User:Joececchini has been adding nicknames to articles. I've reverted the addition of Big Orange. It needs to be properly sourced before allowing it back in this article. -- Dalbury( Talk) 09:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Moved the following here from the article page as POV puffery:
You can cite sources that say that, but putting it this way is POV. -- Dalbury( Talk) 03:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Does the article really need 5 pictures of the same thing from slightly different perspectives? They all look great, but let's show some restraint. Cacophony 19:31, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this photo site ( Photographs Over 4,000 images from the State Library & Archives of Florida) from the 'external links' section of the page, as it really borders on linkspam. However, there are a lot of photos, so I've kept the link here as it might come in useful to editors. Dr. Cash 17:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed the sentence, These islands are geologically considered to be part of the Florida Keys, but are not politically related to them, from the article because the sources I've consulted state that Key Biscayne and northward are barrier islands, and not true Florida Keys. Soldier Key south to Sands Key are transitional keys, mixing characteristics of barrier islands and true Florida Keys, while Elliott Key is the northernmost of the true Florida Keys. The sources are cited in the Florida Keys article. -- Dalbury( Talk) 14:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
They're a mess. I just added a footnote in Climate, and it is #22 in the text, but there are only 18 footnote entries in References. I'll try to look at them later, but I may not be able to find the sources for some of them. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)( Talk) 11:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I've got the footnotes sorted to where the numbers match. I could not find a source for the very sharp decline in non-hispanic white population between 1990 and 2000 (the white flight section), so I pulled the footnote and left a {{ fact}} tag. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)( Talk) 00:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
The reference {{note|Teele}} [http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12261057.htm "With suicide, Teele tried to take control"] ''Miami Herald'', dtd July 30, 2005, retrieved January 28, 2006 is broken. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)( Talk) 11:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
The Miami metropolitan area (Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach) do not sit between the Miami River, Biscayne Bay, the Everglades and the Atlantic Ocean.
The Miami River runs from the northwest towards Downtown; both the city and the metro area extend far beyond both banks of the river.
The barrier islands separate Biscayne Bay from the Atlantic Ocean. Hence, Biscayne Bay lies completely within the metro area.
The following sentence would correct these errors:
"Miami and the surrounding metropolitan area sit between the Everglades, the Atlantic Ocean, the Loxahatchee River, and Florida Bay."
--ralonso
Someone has changed the rainfall figure indicated in the article and some unreliable source was quoted. Please do not do this. The figure of inches is from the U.S. National Weather service. This should be taken as a standard and not some unreliable travel guide websites. Go to http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/localdata.php link and check the figure for each month. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.99.10.52 ( talk • contribs)
How could people have been left homeless in the Miami Arena after the Great Hurricane? It wasn't built until 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.148.231 ( talk • contribs) 17:04, 17 May 2006
There has been quite a bit of discussion on WP:CITY for standardizing the city infoboxes, and a consensus has been reached favoring Template:Infobox City over Template:Infobox U.S. City as the standard for all global cities (not just U.S. cities). For some reason, the Miami article does not use either template and uses it's own, but the infobox should be converted to Template:Infobox City format. Dr. Cash 02:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I reverted a bunch of edits by Worker31b this evening. IMHO the edits smacked of 'boosterism', trying to prove that Miami is really bigger than Jacksonville. This article is about the City of Miami, it is not about the Dade County metropolitan area or the South Florida metropolitan area. It is a plain fact that Jacksonville has a larger population than Miami, and so ranks as the most populous city in Florida. -- Donald Albury( Talk) 23:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The "article" on Miami includes the following --> ""Despite this, the city has been fortunate in not having a direct hit by a hurricane since Hurricane Cleo in 1964.[18] However, many other hurricanes have affected the city, including Betsy in 1965, Andrew in 1992, Irene in 1999, and Hurricanes Katrina and Wilma in 2005.""
The reference given is --> [18] http://www.hurricanecity.com/city/miami.htm
So, being personally hit by massive sheets of water + constant 78 MPH winds / 85 MPH gusts within city limits during Katrina, and by massive sheets of water + constant 85 MPH winds / 105 MPH gusts within city limits during Wilma, does NOT constitute a "direct hit" ... ?
All this time, we were merely "affected" and not "direct(ly) hit" !
Several thousand dead trees and hundreds of damaged buildings will be happy to hear this !
((Perhaps wiki requires a massive body count, ala New Orelans, for a "direct hit" to be duly acknowledged?))
Wiki-know-it-alls -> Please define what is meant by "direct hit".
Thank you.
Just as a side note: when Wilma passed over my area ( north dade county Miami beach ) it was just a dry storm, we had little to no real rain, within dade county area please see this noaa image. http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/wilma2005filledrainblk.GIF
Donald Albury writes "" You only had Category One conditions from those two storms. ""
As far as I recall, a Category One Hurricane is still a Hurricane.
So therefore, you agree that Miami was hit with at least cat. one hurricane-level conditions, and therefore, Miami did suffer a "direct hit" from these two _hurricanes_? Yes, no, maybe?
Naturally, some will claim (perhaps this is an issue best suited for a consensus amongst learned weather authorities of this planet) that a "direct hit" must include the eye passing over the area in question. Perhaps this distinction should be made clear in the Miami article? ...in order to avoid confusion.
Your idea of a "direct hit" does appear to be equivalent to having the "eye" pass directly over the area in question. If so, why the hyperbole about your experience and your grandparents? What is your point? Must I assume that "direct hit" must not only include the "eye" but also include complete devastation and body count worthy of FEMA and Hollywood !!? I hope not.
For the record, ye olde Hurricane Andrew blew my own roof away (south of Miami of course!!), while I was underneath it ... and I don't really remember an eye or a pause/break in the action (sorry)... I guess I didn't get hit then, hunh? I'm sure glad the insurance carrier and the Feds didn't think so, at the time.
Let's review : Have you actually answered the question as stated, in a meaningful fashion? No. Have you given any external references from learned weather authorities in support? No, as far as I can see.
Therefore, I challenge you or anyone, without emotion, but with reason, and without thinking that an article is that personal private property which one is meant to defend because one is infallible in all ways Wikipedia.....
--> Please define what is meant by "direct hit" and give it some authoritative backing. <-- . o O o O (( with respect to hurricanes )
Thank You
A close approach of a tropical cyclone to a particular location. For locations on the left-hand side of a tropical cyclone's track (looking in the direction of motion), a direct hit occurs when the cyclone passes to within a distance equal to the cyclone's radius of maximum wind. For locations on the right-hand side of the track, a direct hit occurs when the cyclone passes to within a distance equal to twice the radius of maximum wind. Compare indirect hit, strike.
Generally refers to locations that do not experience a direct hit from a tropical cyclone, but do experience hurricane force winds (either sustained or gusts) or tides of at least 4 feet above normal.
The distance from the center of a tropical cyclone to the location of the cyclone's maximum winds. In well-developed hurricanes, the radius of maximum winds is generally found at the inner edge of the eyewall.
The convective pattern of Katrina as it crossed southern Florida was rather
asymmetric due to northerly wind shear, which placed the strongest winds and heaviest rains
south and east of the center in Miami-Dade County.
I removed that list as it's unnessarry and those types of bullet point lists are discouraged here. A few of the places are just outside city limits as well. Should be in a seperate subpage at best. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 19:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
The article states "Today there are sizable legal and illegal populations of...Puerto Ricans,...". Miami cannot have illegal Puerto Ricans. Remove or rephrase? Mal7798
A snow dusting reportedly covered coconut trees and other true tropical palms in the northern suburbs, an extremely rare event.
I removed the above from the article until it can be properly sourced. -- Donald Albury( Talk) 12:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I always find it odd that people who know nothing about a certain topic decide to edit entries just because they don't think it's true or can't source it, even though they can't proove it ISN'T true. As it so happens to be, yes, it has snowed in Miami: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/climate/2004-12-21-florida-snow_x.htm
History section seems to have lost alot of information. The cached version on google includes many details missing from this current version. Noticable due to the fact that the sentence "After the Second Seminole War ended in 1842, Fitzpatrick’s nephew, William English, re-established the plantation in Miami." references Richard Fitzpatrick, who is no longer in the article.
Fitzpatrick is first referred to in the Google cached version in "In the 1830s, Richard Fitzpatrick bought land on the Miami River from the Bahamians, becoming one of the first and most successful of the permanent white settlers. He operated a successful plantation with slave labor where he cultivated sugar cane, bananas, corn, and tropical fruit. Fort Dallas was located on Fitzpatrick’s plantation on the north bank of the river."
Since I am new at this and there appears to be others with better skill at this, I figure I meention it rather than just blanketly restore all the missing photos and information.
In addition, the William English linked in this article jumps to an illinois congressman that once ran for vice-president. Is this the same person? I see no reference to the plantaion on his page, so it might be a different person altogether.
What is the origin? Perhaps I missed it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.155.51.134 ( talk) 22:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada.
It says in the article that Miami has a temperature range of about 80-low 90s in summer. Is there a source for this, because I recall low 90s-low triple digits every day for weeks. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 13:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Miami is beautiful, i invite you to come spend a weekend with me and my family and i'll show you what a beautiful "third world country" i reside in! user:racerboyGTR
Miami is a major city and a third world country in southeastern Florida, in the United States.
I don't know if thats supposed to be a joke, but HONESTLY. People do reports, and use Wikipedia for them. The information is supposed to be factual, and just because you had a bad experience in Miami doesn't mean you need to take your anger out on articles! Miami CAN'T be a third world country. One because it's a CITY, in a STATE, thats in a COUNTRY, and the United States is BY FAR not a third world country. GROW UP.
75.21.200.234 03:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
If you feel that Miami is not a third world country, then perhaps you should take that up with Rep.
Tom Tancredo. I assume you haven't read his comments about the city?
I have been to Miami, and it is definatly not third world. I have been to one of those too, there is a major difference; I don't care if one politician said it is, because very simply, it isn't. | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 21:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that the Chicago page doesn't come with the state on the name of the article as it was moved several months back. Should we do the same with this article, this is the most well known miami of course and the Miami article already redirects here. Any thoughts. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 07:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know any other nicknames for Miami besides "The Magic City" and "The Gateway of the Americas"? Anyone??? There's gotta be others.
198.138.41.77 23:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Miami's climate is subtropical, not tropical. There is a distinct difference. See the article on Wikipedia under "subtropical". Aldofern 04:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Florida is surrounded by water on three sides, limiting southward movement of cold fronts and thus allowing a tropical climate to exist where it would not otherwise.→ R Young { yakł talk} 14:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Is there a link on this page (perhaps under a different name) for the Marina Stadium? I was hoping to find out some background on it. Jouster ( whisper) 18:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Despite predictions of 'population buildout,' we have seen that the city of Miami's population continues to rise, in part through high-rise construction. While true that a lack of city-limit expansion makes a huge population increase unlikely, the city could potentially expand its city limits (if not politically). Legally, the only thing preventing annexation would be if the city were 100% surrounded by incorporated communities, which is clearly NOT the case. Many cities have been prevented from expanding politically, but a change in resident and voter attitude could one day see a city limit expansion.→ R Young { yakł talk} 14:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no discussion of Miami's form of government. The Miami-Dade page mentions its relationship with the rest of Dade County, but what about Miami? Strong Mayor form? Can we find someone who knows this stuff? Geoffwithers 17:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone should update that the "building boom" discussed several times in the article is now well and truly a building BUST as the desire for over-priced condos and such has all but dried up and Miami is leading the United States in real estate woes.
Some news links for reference: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=&sid=a4qa.rYTWyYA http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2007/7/emw539818.htm http://www.local10.com/news/13721122/detail.html http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2007/07/09/daily3.html Yacoub80 02:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Is the City of Miami a City commission government? On the official website it says that the city has 5 commissioners [1]. There's a blank spot for government type in the infobox. 74.225.197.63 00:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
The U.S. Census Bureau released new infromation on April 5, 2007 that places the Miami metro area's population second to Houston's metro area. Check it out.
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What's up with the Music section? It's pretty bad. Any ideas on fixing it? Skillz187 01:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
the City of Miami's population has surpassed 400,000 for the first time according to Census Estimates, an 11% increase since 2000:
[10]link to the census
population change | 2000: 363,404 | 2001: 367,223 | 2002: 372,207 | 2003: 375,766 | 2005: 386,619] | 2006: 404,048 |
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Miami managed to add over 1000 people per square mile. Pop density in 2000 - 10,185 pop/sq mile Pop density in 2006 - 11,554 pop/sq mile
According to the latest Census estimates released, as of July 1,2006:
my source [11]
City of Miami's population is 404,048 US Rank is 43rd most populous city up from 48 in 2000 Percentage increase was 11.5%. Estimated Population density is now 11,554 people per square mile. I changed the old figures and added the new data
Hello, hello,
I would like to revamp the German page of Miami, and would like to have the same column on the right like the English page has. The one on the German page does not look the slightest bit attractive and adding this column would really improve the page.
Could anyone help me with this?
I have a lot of information to add to the German website, and also some great photos of mine, but I don't know how to upload them onto the page. Would someone please explain to me how this works?
Thanks a lot,
Totomitsu
I have been going through this page and correctly formatting all of the citations using the {{ cite news}} and {{ cite web}} tamplates, and I have discovered that some of the references are a little bit less than reliable. Reference (2) is to a blog, reference (6) is a link to a secondary source, which cites a newspaper article as its source (not a direct quote); this is not the proper way to cite such information. Reference (8) is to a site that has been targeted by the WP anti-spam people. One of the references I haven't formatted yet is to something called "Pitchfork Media", and another is a 404 link.
The weather section is hosed. I subbed in a link to The Weather Channel, because the cite I replaced was to a site of unknown reliability; TWC tends to be a reliable source. However, the NWS, in typical government fashion, fixed their site until it was broken and changed their data (which is also linked) from a simple, all-on-one-page sheet, to separate pages for every month, and some of their "unofficial" figures don't square with the stuff from TWC. The record low figures, in particular, are off; the NWS site claims lows in the high 20s for several dates in January and February. There are also a couple of issues with a reference that had nothing to do with the sentence it followed; I have commented it out for now.
Horologium t- c 22:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Miami cannot possibly have the largest number of spanish speakers outside Latin America! How can a city of 400,000 have more spanish speakers than cities like LA or New York with populations 10 times bigger and even larger latino population. Probaly percentage wise but NOT raw numbers. The source is also very questionable and not very reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.29.177 ( talk) 05:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Since all of the relevant edits are coming an unregistered editor, I am not expecting much of a result from this, but I'll post it anyway.
Palermo is not a sister city of Miami.
The citation provided in the sister city section is from the City of Miami government, which is unquestionably the most accurate source on this subject. Palermo is not one of the 10 cities on that list. I would appreciate it if the unregistered editor who continually adds Palermo to the list would please stop doing so. It appears that at one point in the past, Palermo was a sister city, (it shows up on the state of Florida's 2001 list, and is still on the Sister Cities International list), but it is not any longer. SSI does not remove city pairings unless one of the involved cities sends them a request to be delisted. Horologium t- c 16:48, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Miami cannot possibly have the largest Spanish speaking population! LA has the largest spanish speaking population in the United States so how would Miami have more!?!? Im gonna go ahead and take that off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juelz9 ( talk • contribs) 04:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
someone fix this - Pwnage8 20:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Almost certain this edit is vandalism, but thought I'd check here. · AndonicO Talk 11:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I see that an editor has added this twice now, and it has twice been removed. But I don't see why it shouldn't be there; Chicago, New York City, Boston, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and most other large American city articles all have pronunciation notes in their first sentences, so why shouldn't Miami's article also do so? What are other editors' opinions on this matter? Cheers, Rai- me 20:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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I've reverted Brandon1978's addition of a pronunciation again, and asked him to discuss this with us here. As background, Brandon1978 has been adding pronunciations to articles about cities all over the world, and has been reverted in several of the articles. His edits are regarded as disruptive by some other editors. His repeated re-adding without any attempt at discussion of something that has been reverted by three (I think) different regular editors of this article certainly does not look good. -- Donald Albury 12:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
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Miamitom 12:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Okidoke ... I'll post a cropped version. :) -t-
Miamitom, The cropped version of the photo looks good! -- Miamiomar 00:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Miamitom, We usually prefer a more complete skyline photo angle, but the latest skyline photo looks pretty good. Would it be possible for you to crop the photo to show more skyline with less water and sky? I think that'd make it look even better in the article. Also, it looks like there is some boat wake something at the bottom. We appreciate anything you can do to improve it. Thanks for the photo!-- MIA777 00:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Makes sense that it's tough to get the whole skyline looking good in the photo box. Larger cities like New York or Chicago tend to put only a fraction of the skyline, but they make sure the picture is filled solid with buildings. That gives the impression there is more. If we are only going to show a portion of the skyline to look good in the small box, I think it should be cut better to show the larger buildings in better detail with no end to the skyline in sight. -- Rstepp 01:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Miamitom 14:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC) This guy Mark Averette Marc Averetteis very insecure about allowing anyone else to post photos on this page or on the South Beach pages. As a result of this childish pettiness, I am not going to post any more photos, although I have many, unless you all find a way to override him. I find that although Wikipedia claims to be a place where "all" can contribute, there are those like him who like to make these kinds of sites into their own little fiefdoms. Let me know once you have this settled and I'll be happy to post more.
The article cited a high temperature record of 103 F on July 17, 2010. Neither www.weather.com nor www.wunderground.com agrees with this figure. I have changed it to the official record of 98 F. And same with the record low. I have no idea where he got 27 F. As to 20 F in Homestead, that is also bogus, besides not being particularly relevant since Homestead is a separate city, about 30 mi from Miami. Even his citation only says that 20 F was recorded in unspecified locations, namely "[s]ections of Dade and Broward Counties plummeted to record minimum temperatures as low as 20 oF (-6.6 oC), and remained below freezing for 10-14 hours." It does not specify Homestead, whose official low temp record is 26 F. People should not use Wikipedia to bs about the weather.
There is some confusion in the Demographics section. It says "The racial makeup of the city is 66.62% White, 22.31% African American, 0.25% Native American, 0.66% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 5.42% from other races, and 4.74% from two or more races. 65.76% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race."The 66% White and 65% Hispanic are conflicting. If you factor in 65% and 22% for African Americans that leaves 13% for Whites. Could someone clarify/correct this? I know for sure that 65% is Hispanic but the rest is unclear. Milk 02:24, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hispanic is not a racial group, it's the people who speak spanish and they can be white, black or american natives. In countries like Argentina, Spain, Chile or Uruguay all the people is hispanic and white.
The demographic section definitely needs some adjustment; a reference (to the Census for example) would be helpful, as would clarification of racial make-up. As someone stated Hispanics are not a race, but the article should mention that the 4.75% of people from two or more races excludes people who classify themselves as Hispanic, since a preponderance of Hispanics are of mixed races. 69.84.100.123 21:25, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Considering how high Miami's crime rate is, why is it crammed in with demographic information so that it's barely noticeable, especially if it ranks so high among the FBI's list of dangerous cities? I think more should be said about it.( 72.144.183.207 00:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC))
Does it seem logical to anyone else to modify "television and film" to "media" and include Grand Theft Auto: Vice City as based on the city? - Ickle
GTA:VC is surely set in Vice City, no? By that logic, are Superman and Batman set in New York? john k 06:12, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Well, Gotham was indeed thought to be the comicbook version of NYC, yes. And Gotham is NYC's nickname -- see, for example, the Gotham Center for New York City History ( http://www.gothamcenter.org/) or the Gotham Gazette ( http://www.gothamgazette.com/). About Vice City representing Miami, I attend university in Miami, and Vice City certainly looks like Miami to me. There is no other city with the same reputation, tropical climate, seaside setting, topography, urban landscape, and ethnic composition in the US, so it's not really a stretch. ~kali June, 2004
Is this sentence a mistake? the City of Miami was incorporated with 344 citizens (243 of which were identified as white and 181 as black.
In order for 243 people to be white and 181 to be black, there would have to be some overlap--some people would have to identify as both categories. But in the 1890s, I don't think people were allowed to check more than one racial category in the census. Can anyone find accurate data? Funnyhat 02:16, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know the source for these numbers? Helen Muir, in Miami, U.S.A., says that Miami was incorported with 502 registered voters, and mentions a Black artillery of 100 men brought in by Flagler's people to help elect a mayor favorable to the railroad. The 344 number may come from [2], but it doesn't break down the numbers by race, but just says a sizable percentage were black. And this site [3] says Miami had a population of just over 300. As only adult males could register to vote, 344 (or 502) registered voters implies maybe twice that number of residents (allowing for a lot of single men brought in as laborers on the railroad attracked to a boom town). -- Dalbury( Talk) 00:13, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Judge Marilyn Milian is a well-known resident of Miami. She wasn't born there, but she moved there when she was 8. Shouldn't she be on one of those lists?
There was never a USFL franchise called the Miami Federals. There was the Washington Federals (1983-1984) who were reincarnated as the Orlando Renegades (1985).
Anyone notice that most of those external links have to do with Miami Beach and not Miami... these are two separate cities... perhaps they should be removed and placed there? PRueda29 15:31, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be appropriate for a list of all of the mayors of the City of Miami to be added to this page.
User:Joececchini has been adding nicknames to articles. I've reverted the addition of Big Orange. It needs to be properly sourced before allowing it back in this article. -- Dalbury( Talk) 09:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Moved the following here from the article page as POV puffery:
You can cite sources that say that, but putting it this way is POV. -- Dalbury( Talk) 03:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Does the article really need 5 pictures of the same thing from slightly different perspectives? They all look great, but let's show some restraint. Cacophony 19:31, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this photo site ( Photographs Over 4,000 images from the State Library & Archives of Florida) from the 'external links' section of the page, as it really borders on linkspam. However, there are a lot of photos, so I've kept the link here as it might come in useful to editors. Dr. Cash 17:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed the sentence, These islands are geologically considered to be part of the Florida Keys, but are not politically related to them, from the article because the sources I've consulted state that Key Biscayne and northward are barrier islands, and not true Florida Keys. Soldier Key south to Sands Key are transitional keys, mixing characteristics of barrier islands and true Florida Keys, while Elliott Key is the northernmost of the true Florida Keys. The sources are cited in the Florida Keys article. -- Dalbury( Talk) 14:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
They're a mess. I just added a footnote in Climate, and it is #22 in the text, but there are only 18 footnote entries in References. I'll try to look at them later, but I may not be able to find the sources for some of them. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)( Talk) 11:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I've got the footnotes sorted to where the numbers match. I could not find a source for the very sharp decline in non-hispanic white population between 1990 and 2000 (the white flight section), so I pulled the footnote and left a {{ fact}} tag. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)( Talk) 00:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
The reference {{note|Teele}} [http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12261057.htm "With suicide, Teele tried to take control"] ''Miami Herald'', dtd July 30, 2005, retrieved January 28, 2006 is broken. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)( Talk) 11:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
The Miami metropolitan area (Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach) do not sit between the Miami River, Biscayne Bay, the Everglades and the Atlantic Ocean.
The Miami River runs from the northwest towards Downtown; both the city and the metro area extend far beyond both banks of the river.
The barrier islands separate Biscayne Bay from the Atlantic Ocean. Hence, Biscayne Bay lies completely within the metro area.
The following sentence would correct these errors:
"Miami and the surrounding metropolitan area sit between the Everglades, the Atlantic Ocean, the Loxahatchee River, and Florida Bay."
--ralonso
Someone has changed the rainfall figure indicated in the article and some unreliable source was quoted. Please do not do this. The figure of inches is from the U.S. National Weather service. This should be taken as a standard and not some unreliable travel guide websites. Go to http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/localdata.php link and check the figure for each month. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.99.10.52 ( talk • contribs)
How could people have been left homeless in the Miami Arena after the Great Hurricane? It wasn't built until 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.148.231 ( talk • contribs) 17:04, 17 May 2006
There has been quite a bit of discussion on WP:CITY for standardizing the city infoboxes, and a consensus has been reached favoring Template:Infobox City over Template:Infobox U.S. City as the standard for all global cities (not just U.S. cities). For some reason, the Miami article does not use either template and uses it's own, but the infobox should be converted to Template:Infobox City format. Dr. Cash 02:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I reverted a bunch of edits by Worker31b this evening. IMHO the edits smacked of 'boosterism', trying to prove that Miami is really bigger than Jacksonville. This article is about the City of Miami, it is not about the Dade County metropolitan area or the South Florida metropolitan area. It is a plain fact that Jacksonville has a larger population than Miami, and so ranks as the most populous city in Florida. -- Donald Albury( Talk) 23:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The "article" on Miami includes the following --> ""Despite this, the city has been fortunate in not having a direct hit by a hurricane since Hurricane Cleo in 1964.[18] However, many other hurricanes have affected the city, including Betsy in 1965, Andrew in 1992, Irene in 1999, and Hurricanes Katrina and Wilma in 2005.""
The reference given is --> [18] http://www.hurricanecity.com/city/miami.htm
So, being personally hit by massive sheets of water + constant 78 MPH winds / 85 MPH gusts within city limits during Katrina, and by massive sheets of water + constant 85 MPH winds / 105 MPH gusts within city limits during Wilma, does NOT constitute a "direct hit" ... ?
All this time, we were merely "affected" and not "direct(ly) hit" !
Several thousand dead trees and hundreds of damaged buildings will be happy to hear this !
((Perhaps wiki requires a massive body count, ala New Orelans, for a "direct hit" to be duly acknowledged?))
Wiki-know-it-alls -> Please define what is meant by "direct hit".
Thank you.
Just as a side note: when Wilma passed over my area ( north dade county Miami beach ) it was just a dry storm, we had little to no real rain, within dade county area please see this noaa image. http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/wilma2005filledrainblk.GIF
Donald Albury writes "" You only had Category One conditions from those two storms. ""
As far as I recall, a Category One Hurricane is still a Hurricane.
So therefore, you agree that Miami was hit with at least cat. one hurricane-level conditions, and therefore, Miami did suffer a "direct hit" from these two _hurricanes_? Yes, no, maybe?
Naturally, some will claim (perhaps this is an issue best suited for a consensus amongst learned weather authorities of this planet) that a "direct hit" must include the eye passing over the area in question. Perhaps this distinction should be made clear in the Miami article? ...in order to avoid confusion.
Your idea of a "direct hit" does appear to be equivalent to having the "eye" pass directly over the area in question. If so, why the hyperbole about your experience and your grandparents? What is your point? Must I assume that "direct hit" must not only include the "eye" but also include complete devastation and body count worthy of FEMA and Hollywood !!? I hope not.
For the record, ye olde Hurricane Andrew blew my own roof away (south of Miami of course!!), while I was underneath it ... and I don't really remember an eye or a pause/break in the action (sorry)... I guess I didn't get hit then, hunh? I'm sure glad the insurance carrier and the Feds didn't think so, at the time.
Let's review : Have you actually answered the question as stated, in a meaningful fashion? No. Have you given any external references from learned weather authorities in support? No, as far as I can see.
Therefore, I challenge you or anyone, without emotion, but with reason, and without thinking that an article is that personal private property which one is meant to defend because one is infallible in all ways Wikipedia.....
--> Please define what is meant by "direct hit" and give it some authoritative backing. <-- . o O o O (( with respect to hurricanes )
Thank You
A close approach of a tropical cyclone to a particular location. For locations on the left-hand side of a tropical cyclone's track (looking in the direction of motion), a direct hit occurs when the cyclone passes to within a distance equal to the cyclone's radius of maximum wind. For locations on the right-hand side of the track, a direct hit occurs when the cyclone passes to within a distance equal to twice the radius of maximum wind. Compare indirect hit, strike.
Generally refers to locations that do not experience a direct hit from a tropical cyclone, but do experience hurricane force winds (either sustained or gusts) or tides of at least 4 feet above normal.
The distance from the center of a tropical cyclone to the location of the cyclone's maximum winds. In well-developed hurricanes, the radius of maximum winds is generally found at the inner edge of the eyewall.
The convective pattern of Katrina as it crossed southern Florida was rather
asymmetric due to northerly wind shear, which placed the strongest winds and heaviest rains
south and east of the center in Miami-Dade County.
I removed that list as it's unnessarry and those types of bullet point lists are discouraged here. A few of the places are just outside city limits as well. Should be in a seperate subpage at best. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 19:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
The article states "Today there are sizable legal and illegal populations of...Puerto Ricans,...". Miami cannot have illegal Puerto Ricans. Remove or rephrase? Mal7798
A snow dusting reportedly covered coconut trees and other true tropical palms in the northern suburbs, an extremely rare event.
I removed the above from the article until it can be properly sourced. -- Donald Albury( Talk) 12:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I always find it odd that people who know nothing about a certain topic decide to edit entries just because they don't think it's true or can't source it, even though they can't proove it ISN'T true. As it so happens to be, yes, it has snowed in Miami: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/climate/2004-12-21-florida-snow_x.htm
History section seems to have lost alot of information. The cached version on google includes many details missing from this current version. Noticable due to the fact that the sentence "After the Second Seminole War ended in 1842, Fitzpatrick’s nephew, William English, re-established the plantation in Miami." references Richard Fitzpatrick, who is no longer in the article.
Fitzpatrick is first referred to in the Google cached version in "In the 1830s, Richard Fitzpatrick bought land on the Miami River from the Bahamians, becoming one of the first and most successful of the permanent white settlers. He operated a successful plantation with slave labor where he cultivated sugar cane, bananas, corn, and tropical fruit. Fort Dallas was located on Fitzpatrick’s plantation on the north bank of the river."
Since I am new at this and there appears to be others with better skill at this, I figure I meention it rather than just blanketly restore all the missing photos and information.
In addition, the William English linked in this article jumps to an illinois congressman that once ran for vice-president. Is this the same person? I see no reference to the plantaion on his page, so it might be a different person altogether.
What is the origin? Perhaps I missed it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.155.51.134 ( talk) 22:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada.
It says in the article that Miami has a temperature range of about 80-low 90s in summer. Is there a source for this, because I recall low 90s-low triple digits every day for weeks. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 13:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Miami is beautiful, i invite you to come spend a weekend with me and my family and i'll show you what a beautiful "third world country" i reside in! user:racerboyGTR
Miami is a major city and a third world country in southeastern Florida, in the United States.
I don't know if thats supposed to be a joke, but HONESTLY. People do reports, and use Wikipedia for them. The information is supposed to be factual, and just because you had a bad experience in Miami doesn't mean you need to take your anger out on articles! Miami CAN'T be a third world country. One because it's a CITY, in a STATE, thats in a COUNTRY, and the United States is BY FAR not a third world country. GROW UP.
75.21.200.234 03:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
If you feel that Miami is not a third world country, then perhaps you should take that up with Rep.
Tom Tancredo. I assume you haven't read his comments about the city?
I have been to Miami, and it is definatly not third world. I have been to one of those too, there is a major difference; I don't care if one politician said it is, because very simply, it isn't. | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 21:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that the Chicago page doesn't come with the state on the name of the article as it was moved several months back. Should we do the same with this article, this is the most well known miami of course and the Miami article already redirects here. Any thoughts. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 07:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know any other nicknames for Miami besides "The Magic City" and "The Gateway of the Americas"? Anyone??? There's gotta be others.
198.138.41.77 23:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Miami's climate is subtropical, not tropical. There is a distinct difference. See the article on Wikipedia under "subtropical". Aldofern 04:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Florida is surrounded by water on three sides, limiting southward movement of cold fronts and thus allowing a tropical climate to exist where it would not otherwise.→ R Young { yakł talk} 14:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Is there a link on this page (perhaps under a different name) for the Marina Stadium? I was hoping to find out some background on it. Jouster ( whisper) 18:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Despite predictions of 'population buildout,' we have seen that the city of Miami's population continues to rise, in part through high-rise construction. While true that a lack of city-limit expansion makes a huge population increase unlikely, the city could potentially expand its city limits (if not politically). Legally, the only thing preventing annexation would be if the city were 100% surrounded by incorporated communities, which is clearly NOT the case. Many cities have been prevented from expanding politically, but a change in resident and voter attitude could one day see a city limit expansion.→ R Young { yakł talk} 14:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no discussion of Miami's form of government. The Miami-Dade page mentions its relationship with the rest of Dade County, but what about Miami? Strong Mayor form? Can we find someone who knows this stuff? Geoffwithers 17:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone should update that the "building boom" discussed several times in the article is now well and truly a building BUST as the desire for over-priced condos and such has all but dried up and Miami is leading the United States in real estate woes.
Some news links for reference: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=&sid=a4qa.rYTWyYA http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2007/7/emw539818.htm http://www.local10.com/news/13721122/detail.html http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2007/07/09/daily3.html Yacoub80 02:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Is the City of Miami a City commission government? On the official website it says that the city has 5 commissioners [1]. There's a blank spot for government type in the infobox. 74.225.197.63 00:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
The U.S. Census Bureau released new infromation on April 5, 2007 that places the Miami metro area's population second to Houston's metro area. Check it out.
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What's up with the Music section? It's pretty bad. Any ideas on fixing it? Skillz187 01:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
the City of Miami's population has surpassed 400,000 for the first time according to Census Estimates, an 11% increase since 2000:
[10]link to the census
population change | 2000: 363,404 | 2001: 367,223 | 2002: 372,207 | 2003: 375,766 | 2005: 386,619] | 2006: 404,048 |
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Miami managed to add over 1000 people per square mile. Pop density in 2000 - 10,185 pop/sq mile Pop density in 2006 - 11,554 pop/sq mile
According to the latest Census estimates released, as of July 1,2006:
my source [11]
City of Miami's population is 404,048 US Rank is 43rd most populous city up from 48 in 2000 Percentage increase was 11.5%. Estimated Population density is now 11,554 people per square mile. I changed the old figures and added the new data
Hello, hello,
I would like to revamp the German page of Miami, and would like to have the same column on the right like the English page has. The one on the German page does not look the slightest bit attractive and adding this column would really improve the page.
Could anyone help me with this?
I have a lot of information to add to the German website, and also some great photos of mine, but I don't know how to upload them onto the page. Would someone please explain to me how this works?
Thanks a lot,
Totomitsu
I have been going through this page and correctly formatting all of the citations using the {{ cite news}} and {{ cite web}} tamplates, and I have discovered that some of the references are a little bit less than reliable. Reference (2) is to a blog, reference (6) is a link to a secondary source, which cites a newspaper article as its source (not a direct quote); this is not the proper way to cite such information. Reference (8) is to a site that has been targeted by the WP anti-spam people. One of the references I haven't formatted yet is to something called "Pitchfork Media", and another is a 404 link.
The weather section is hosed. I subbed in a link to The Weather Channel, because the cite I replaced was to a site of unknown reliability; TWC tends to be a reliable source. However, the NWS, in typical government fashion, fixed their site until it was broken and changed their data (which is also linked) from a simple, all-on-one-page sheet, to separate pages for every month, and some of their "unofficial" figures don't square with the stuff from TWC. The record low figures, in particular, are off; the NWS site claims lows in the high 20s for several dates in January and February. There are also a couple of issues with a reference that had nothing to do with the sentence it followed; I have commented it out for now.
Horologium t- c 22:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Miami cannot possibly have the largest number of spanish speakers outside Latin America! How can a city of 400,000 have more spanish speakers than cities like LA or New York with populations 10 times bigger and even larger latino population. Probaly percentage wise but NOT raw numbers. The source is also very questionable and not very reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.29.177 ( talk) 05:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Since all of the relevant edits are coming an unregistered editor, I am not expecting much of a result from this, but I'll post it anyway.
Palermo is not a sister city of Miami.
The citation provided in the sister city section is from the City of Miami government, which is unquestionably the most accurate source on this subject. Palermo is not one of the 10 cities on that list. I would appreciate it if the unregistered editor who continually adds Palermo to the list would please stop doing so. It appears that at one point in the past, Palermo was a sister city, (it shows up on the state of Florida's 2001 list, and is still on the Sister Cities International list), but it is not any longer. SSI does not remove city pairings unless one of the involved cities sends them a request to be delisted. Horologium t- c 16:48, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Miami cannot possibly have the largest Spanish speaking population! LA has the largest spanish speaking population in the United States so how would Miami have more!?!? Im gonna go ahead and take that off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juelz9 ( talk • contribs) 04:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
someone fix this - Pwnage8 20:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Almost certain this edit is vandalism, but thought I'd check here. · AndonicO Talk 11:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I see that an editor has added this twice now, and it has twice been removed. But I don't see why it shouldn't be there; Chicago, New York City, Boston, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and most other large American city articles all have pronunciation notes in their first sentences, so why shouldn't Miami's article also do so? What are other editors' opinions on this matter? Cheers, Rai- me 20:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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I've reverted Brandon1978's addition of a pronunciation again, and asked him to discuss this with us here. As background, Brandon1978 has been adding pronunciations to articles about cities all over the world, and has been reverted in several of the articles. His edits are regarded as disruptive by some other editors. His repeated re-adding without any attempt at discussion of something that has been reverted by three (I think) different regular editors of this article certainly does not look good. -- Donald Albury 12:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)