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Perhaps this refers to Ungureni, a village in Cupşeni Commune, Maramureş County? But the again, I have no idea what exactly the purported borders of the Mezőség are supposed to be in terms of modern administrative units in Romania -- the article doesn't say. I fixed though the names of two of the clear geographical pointers--the Someş River (Szamos) and the Mureş River (Maros)--and added correct wikilinks to them. Also, as I indicated in the edit summary, I think the following sentence needs to be revised: "According to the newest historical founds the middle of the Mezőség was never really populated during the Middle Ages". What exactly is the geographical area and the precise dates this statement refers to? And, what is the (verifiable) source for it? Sounds very dubious to me.
Turgidson20:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Looking again at the article, I see that there is an external link to a
Map of Romania showing Mezőség's location (not mentioned in the body of the article). First, the map comes from a commercial site (a Romanian Gift Shop in Chicago selling Romanian dolls) -- is this really encyclopedic material on which to base this article? And second, the map itself hints at the Mezőség as being a smallish region around Cluj-Napoca (number 3 on the map). So scratch the village in Maramureş County... At any rate, does the Mezőség coincide with present-day
Cluj County, or is it something different? And, again, how come the area around Cluj/Kolozsvár/Klausenburg was "never really populated during the Middle Ages"? According to
History of Cluj-Napoca, that's not the case (there is even a section titled "Middle Ages" in that article!)
Turgidson20:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)reply
According to one of the external links this area should be in Cluj County. Maybe Unguraş?
If the area is about Câmpia Transilvaniei - well it's another thing and will be in a proper named article, like
Transylvania Plain (or something like this).
OK, but isn't Câmpia Transilvaniei to the East of Cluj-Napoca, more towards
Târgu Mureş?
See here a map showing the approximate location (the map comes from a textbook publisher). Is this the area the article refers to?
Turgidson21:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)reply
I don't know who wrote the phrase According to the newest historical founds the middle of the Mezőség was never really populated during the Middle Ages, but it looks a bit strange to me. Not citing any sources and very POV. If there are no objections, I would remove it from the article.
Alexrap18:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Move of the article
I think the article should be moved to Câmpia Transilvaniei, as it is about an ethnogeographical region that still exists today. Both names, Romanian and Hungarian should be kept, but we should try and keep consistency with other articles.
Alexrap (
talk)
11:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)reply
This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Romania, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Romania-
related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Perhaps this refers to Ungureni, a village in Cupşeni Commune, Maramureş County? But the again, I have no idea what exactly the purported borders of the Mezőség are supposed to be in terms of modern administrative units in Romania -- the article doesn't say. I fixed though the names of two of the clear geographical pointers--the Someş River (Szamos) and the Mureş River (Maros)--and added correct wikilinks to them. Also, as I indicated in the edit summary, I think the following sentence needs to be revised: "According to the newest historical founds the middle of the Mezőség was never really populated during the Middle Ages". What exactly is the geographical area and the precise dates this statement refers to? And, what is the (verifiable) source for it? Sounds very dubious to me.
Turgidson20:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Looking again at the article, I see that there is an external link to a
Map of Romania showing Mezőség's location (not mentioned in the body of the article). First, the map comes from a commercial site (a Romanian Gift Shop in Chicago selling Romanian dolls) -- is this really encyclopedic material on which to base this article? And second, the map itself hints at the Mezőség as being a smallish region around Cluj-Napoca (number 3 on the map). So scratch the village in Maramureş County... At any rate, does the Mezőség coincide with present-day
Cluj County, or is it something different? And, again, how come the area around Cluj/Kolozsvár/Klausenburg was "never really populated during the Middle Ages"? According to
History of Cluj-Napoca, that's not the case (there is even a section titled "Middle Ages" in that article!)
Turgidson20:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)reply
According to one of the external links this area should be in Cluj County. Maybe Unguraş?
If the area is about Câmpia Transilvaniei - well it's another thing and will be in a proper named article, like
Transylvania Plain (or something like this).
OK, but isn't Câmpia Transilvaniei to the East of Cluj-Napoca, more towards
Târgu Mureş?
See here a map showing the approximate location (the map comes from a textbook publisher). Is this the area the article refers to?
Turgidson21:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)reply
I don't know who wrote the phrase According to the newest historical founds the middle of the Mezőség was never really populated during the Middle Ages, but it looks a bit strange to me. Not citing any sources and very POV. If there are no objections, I would remove it from the article.
Alexrap18:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Move of the article
I think the article should be moved to Câmpia Transilvaniei, as it is about an ethnogeographical region that still exists today. Both names, Romanian and Hungarian should be kept, but we should try and keep consistency with other articles.
Alexrap (
talk)
11:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)reply