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I put some sections in there but it still needs logical division into proper paragraphs. Dave 18:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there any source regarding "Following the armistice with Germany ending the First World War, the French army entered Metz in November 1918 to great cheering from the population?" If there is no concrete source to verify this claim it should be removed. Without factual evidence one could just as easily add that the inhabitents of Metz cheered as the German army entered the city in 1871 "as they had always felt themselves connected to Germany." Things like this need to be cleaned up... Hvatum 08:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
What is the elevation of the city of Metz?-- TGC55 ( talk) 11:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
In the list of sights I see this: "Templar chapel (12th century)" – I would like to see documentation for that. I doubt it can be found. Jan Eskildsen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.57.199.211 ( talk) 07:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Of course it is an ambiguous subject, but someone stated that Metz is from "historically" from German culture. However, the linguistic border cutting the Moselle department in two (West "French" culture, East "German" culture, or to be more precise Romane at the West and Franconian at the East), so this border is to the East of the city of Metz. Thus, in another way, Metz is in the western part, and thus in the Romane side. This linguistic border was dated from the fall of the Roman Empire (around 5th century). see map of the border (in French) at: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Frontiere_linguistique_mosellane.jpg
An example that during the High Middles Ages (and not as stated from the 16th century), Metz is already under French culture influence: the epitaph of Hermann of Münster dating from the 14th century, in the cathedral, is written in old French. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bava Alcide57 ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- The motto of the Order of the Garter is also written in old French, and the Normandie has been under English/British control for quite a long time. So is the Order of the Garter French while the Normandie is English? I guess not and this mean you can't tell by an epitaph in a church Metz has always been French! 89.50.28.246 ( talk) 17:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- It was never claimed that Metz was always French, no more than German. Because German as country was founded in the 19th and France since the 18th century (for modern France, as kingdom, during the 9th century. see Treaty of Verdun). It is a question of main cultural influences and not of nationality. Metz was always very close of German culture, of course, but the cultural main stream was always Romane. It is not just an epitaph in whatever church, it is an original epitaph in the cathedral of the city, for a man born in Munster (in Germany). If the epitaph and the linguistic border are not enough, we can look at the medieval illuminated manuscripts produced in the city (and still available at the municipal library). None of them is written in Germanic languages, but in Latin and in old French. We can also give a look at the Rabelais's testimony about his experience in the city during the 16th century. Or also the architecture, which is not German compared to the one of Strasbourg and the Rhineland cities. That why Emperor Wilhem II built the imperial district, in order to "germanify" the city. The distinction of the two architectures is so evident that the municipality decided to apply in 2007 for the world list heritage, as contribution of one civilization to another.
Two more things: Normandy was not under influence of English/British rules for a long time. It is England/British which was under Normandy's influence, with the conquest of part of the island by William the Conqueror. Thus, the creation of the Anglo-Norman language (coming from oïl languages, North of France) instead of Celtic languages. Thus, this explains why the motto Order of the Garter is in old French. And thus, yes this order was at some point influenced by French/Norman culture for its motto. If not, why the use of old French? I guess not just for fun ...
Can someone add the population density in square miles too? Thanks. -- Daondo ( talk) 23:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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The "record high", "average low" and "record low" lines have incorrect data. For example, 0,6 °C as Metz's record low for December is completely impossible. I'm sorry 200.106.90.69, but your data are false. Lot7125 ( talk) 02:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
225,157 is the urban population of Metz. But the population of the metropolitan area ("aire urbaine" in French) was 389 851 in 2010, according to INSEE: http://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/?url=http://www.insee.fr/fr/bases-de-donnees/esl/comparateur.asp?codgeo=AU2010-024%26codgeo=METRODOM-M#telechargement&title=%5B1%5D Lot7125 ( talk) 02:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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I put some sections in there but it still needs logical division into proper paragraphs. Dave 18:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there any source regarding "Following the armistice with Germany ending the First World War, the French army entered Metz in November 1918 to great cheering from the population?" If there is no concrete source to verify this claim it should be removed. Without factual evidence one could just as easily add that the inhabitents of Metz cheered as the German army entered the city in 1871 "as they had always felt themselves connected to Germany." Things like this need to be cleaned up... Hvatum 08:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
What is the elevation of the city of Metz?-- TGC55 ( talk) 11:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
In the list of sights I see this: "Templar chapel (12th century)" – I would like to see documentation for that. I doubt it can be found. Jan Eskildsen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.57.199.211 ( talk) 07:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Of course it is an ambiguous subject, but someone stated that Metz is from "historically" from German culture. However, the linguistic border cutting the Moselle department in two (West "French" culture, East "German" culture, or to be more precise Romane at the West and Franconian at the East), so this border is to the East of the city of Metz. Thus, in another way, Metz is in the western part, and thus in the Romane side. This linguistic border was dated from the fall of the Roman Empire (around 5th century). see map of the border (in French) at: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Frontiere_linguistique_mosellane.jpg
An example that during the High Middles Ages (and not as stated from the 16th century), Metz is already under French culture influence: the epitaph of Hermann of Münster dating from the 14th century, in the cathedral, is written in old French. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bava Alcide57 ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- The motto of the Order of the Garter is also written in old French, and the Normandie has been under English/British control for quite a long time. So is the Order of the Garter French while the Normandie is English? I guess not and this mean you can't tell by an epitaph in a church Metz has always been French! 89.50.28.246 ( talk) 17:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- It was never claimed that Metz was always French, no more than German. Because German as country was founded in the 19th and France since the 18th century (for modern France, as kingdom, during the 9th century. see Treaty of Verdun). It is a question of main cultural influences and not of nationality. Metz was always very close of German culture, of course, but the cultural main stream was always Romane. It is not just an epitaph in whatever church, it is an original epitaph in the cathedral of the city, for a man born in Munster (in Germany). If the epitaph and the linguistic border are not enough, we can look at the medieval illuminated manuscripts produced in the city (and still available at the municipal library). None of them is written in Germanic languages, but in Latin and in old French. We can also give a look at the Rabelais's testimony about his experience in the city during the 16th century. Or also the architecture, which is not German compared to the one of Strasbourg and the Rhineland cities. That why Emperor Wilhem II built the imperial district, in order to "germanify" the city. The distinction of the two architectures is so evident that the municipality decided to apply in 2007 for the world list heritage, as contribution of one civilization to another.
Two more things: Normandy was not under influence of English/British rules for a long time. It is England/British which was under Normandy's influence, with the conquest of part of the island by William the Conqueror. Thus, the creation of the Anglo-Norman language (coming from oïl languages, North of France) instead of Celtic languages. Thus, this explains why the motto Order of the Garter is in old French. And thus, yes this order was at some point influenced by French/Norman culture for its motto. If not, why the use of old French? I guess not just for fun ...
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The "record high", "average low" and "record low" lines have incorrect data. For example, 0,6 °C as Metz's record low for December is completely impossible. I'm sorry 200.106.90.69, but your data are false. Lot7125 ( talk) 02:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
225,157 is the urban population of Metz. But the population of the metropolitan area ("aire urbaine" in French) was 389 851 in 2010, according to INSEE: http://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/?url=http://www.insee.fr/fr/bases-de-donnees/esl/comparateur.asp?codgeo=AU2010-024%26codgeo=METRODOM-M#telechargement&title=%5B1%5D Lot7125 ( talk) 02:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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