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This is becoming pretty problematic. Lock due? talk
Dear @Warshy,
In regards to 5 recent edits of which Warshy reverted two of them.
1. Changing human to Jewish. Warshy did not contest this. Reason for edit given. 2. Deletion of piece from "Outside of Chabad Messianism... early christianity". Warshy reverted this edit. The reason Warshy gave for reverting was because this was referenced content. 3. Editing out words "the deceased". Warshy reverted this edit. The reason given is that this appeared to Warshy as if claiming RMMS was not deceased. 4. Deletion of "Resembling early christianity... imminent". Warshy did not contest this. 5. Deletion of "Two bamot-tombs". Warshy did not contest this.
In regards to edit 2. I checked the sources for that. There were 3 sources. 2 of them from Bar-Hayim. Another from Freeman. The quote "Outside of Chabad messianism, in Judaism, there is no basis to these claims." came from Bar-Hayim. After checking source, this Bar-Hayim claimed that Chabad is heresy or at the very least doubtful heresy. This is not a mainstream Jewish position. Nor is this the position Wikipedia takes in citing sources as facts per NPOV. In regards to Freeman, he just comes as a continuation of that statement. Once Bar-Hayim is taken out, no reason for Freeman to be there.
In regards to edit 3. The edits that were eliminated came from sources that implied Chabad is idol worship/heresy. The reason for edit was because the words deceased came from implication of "chabad is heresy". Once that implication is removed, the words "the deceased" are unnecessary to anyone that can do math. However, I can understand Warshy's opposition on this edit.
Blessings,
Yaakov W. Yaakov Wa. ( talk) 01:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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How can Jesus be the Messiah and therefore the anointed one according to Surah 3:45 indicating a special, superior place for him and also in the same verse be the "WORD of God" while Muslims claim that he was only a prophet? Furthermore, he was also born to a virgin Mary confirming the christian position. But if Jesus has no human father who else could be his creator/father other than God? Why do Muslims reject the christian term "son of God" for him? Also Jesus spoke in the cradle(Surah 19:27-33) and was able to create life by turning clay into a living bird(Surah 5:110). Hardly the work of a prophet only. There are multiple indications in the Quran that Jesus was much more than just that. 80.131.61.141 ( talk) 16:29, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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This is becoming pretty problematic. Lock due? talk
Dear @Warshy,
In regards to 5 recent edits of which Warshy reverted two of them.
1. Changing human to Jewish. Warshy did not contest this. Reason for edit given. 2. Deletion of piece from "Outside of Chabad Messianism... early christianity". Warshy reverted this edit. The reason Warshy gave for reverting was because this was referenced content. 3. Editing out words "the deceased". Warshy reverted this edit. The reason given is that this appeared to Warshy as if claiming RMMS was not deceased. 4. Deletion of "Resembling early christianity... imminent". Warshy did not contest this. 5. Deletion of "Two bamot-tombs". Warshy did not contest this.
In regards to edit 2. I checked the sources for that. There were 3 sources. 2 of them from Bar-Hayim. Another from Freeman. The quote "Outside of Chabad messianism, in Judaism, there is no basis to these claims." came from Bar-Hayim. After checking source, this Bar-Hayim claimed that Chabad is heresy or at the very least doubtful heresy. This is not a mainstream Jewish position. Nor is this the position Wikipedia takes in citing sources as facts per NPOV. In regards to Freeman, he just comes as a continuation of that statement. Once Bar-Hayim is taken out, no reason for Freeman to be there.
In regards to edit 3. The edits that were eliminated came from sources that implied Chabad is idol worship/heresy. The reason for edit was because the words deceased came from implication of "chabad is heresy". Once that implication is removed, the words "the deceased" are unnecessary to anyone that can do math. However, I can understand Warshy's opposition on this edit.
Blessings,
Yaakov W. Yaakov Wa. ( talk) 01:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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How can Jesus be the Messiah and therefore the anointed one according to Surah 3:45 indicating a special, superior place for him and also in the same verse be the "WORD of God" while Muslims claim that he was only a prophet? Furthermore, he was also born to a virgin Mary confirming the christian position. But if Jesus has no human father who else could be his creator/father other than God? Why do Muslims reject the christian term "son of God" for him? Also Jesus spoke in the cradle(Surah 19:27-33) and was able to create life by turning clay into a living bird(Surah 5:110). Hardly the work of a prophet only. There are multiple indications in the Quran that Jesus was much more than just that. 80.131.61.141 ( talk) 16:29, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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