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The pit first became known for its wealth of fossils around 1900, but serious scientific excavation only started around the 1970s, when falling oil prices made the quarry uneconomical.
If I understand the economics' history correctly, there should be written rising oil prices instead of what is. -- Ерден Карсыбеков ( talk) 18:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
The wiki page on Limnic Eruption states that Messel pit has fossils because of the Eruption? Can we have any mentions on that here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.25.194.114 ( talk) 03:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
The absence of specimen rich layers (i.e., "kill layer") casts doubt on the toxic gas hypothesis. Instead, the fossils seem to be uniformly dispersed through the Messel Shale suggesting non-catastrophic (attritional) mortality. This is discussed in several chapters in Smith, K.T., Schaal, S.F. and Habersetzer, J. (editors), 2019. MESSEL-An Ancient Greenhouse Ecosystem. Senckenberg Bücher, Nr. 80 144.39.6.17 ( talk) 22:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Within the section Messel formation on Wikiversity are translations from the existing German Wikipedia articles at de:Grube Messel and de:Molasse. If these are of interest feel free to review and critique as well as include here. If anyone wishes more extensive translation of additional parts of these articles, please feel free to let me know. -- Marshallsumter ( talk) 06:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The page for the formation itself is rather scant, and most of the information on this page such as lithology and paleobiota would probably belong on there better. However, that would leave behind just a relatively small page about the pit itself. The Messel pit is not like other fossil sites such as Fossil Butte, where the famous site is just one locality for a much wider formation (e.g. Green River Formation), since I'm pretty sure that everything we know about the formation comes from this one locality alone. For this reason, I propose either merging the formation's article into the pit's article, or vice versa with the history of the pit being a section on the Messel Formation's article. Geekgecko ( talk) 00:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Any user, including the user who first proposed the merge, may close the discussion and move forward with the merge if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge.I simply closed the discussion as there had not been a discussion since the proposal was posted over 20 days ago. ( Discuss 0nshore's contributions!!!) 00:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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The pit first became known for its wealth of fossils around 1900, but serious scientific excavation only started around the 1970s, when falling oil prices made the quarry uneconomical.
If I understand the economics' history correctly, there should be written rising oil prices instead of what is. -- Ерден Карсыбеков ( talk) 18:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
The wiki page on Limnic Eruption states that Messel pit has fossils because of the Eruption? Can we have any mentions on that here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.25.194.114 ( talk) 03:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
The absence of specimen rich layers (i.e., "kill layer") casts doubt on the toxic gas hypothesis. Instead, the fossils seem to be uniformly dispersed through the Messel Shale suggesting non-catastrophic (attritional) mortality. This is discussed in several chapters in Smith, K.T., Schaal, S.F. and Habersetzer, J. (editors), 2019. MESSEL-An Ancient Greenhouse Ecosystem. Senckenberg Bücher, Nr. 80 144.39.6.17 ( talk) 22:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Within the section Messel formation on Wikiversity are translations from the existing German Wikipedia articles at de:Grube Messel and de:Molasse. If these are of interest feel free to review and critique as well as include here. If anyone wishes more extensive translation of additional parts of these articles, please feel free to let me know. -- Marshallsumter ( talk) 06:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
The page for the formation itself is rather scant, and most of the information on this page such as lithology and paleobiota would probably belong on there better. However, that would leave behind just a relatively small page about the pit itself. The Messel pit is not like other fossil sites such as Fossil Butte, where the famous site is just one locality for a much wider formation (e.g. Green River Formation), since I'm pretty sure that everything we know about the formation comes from this one locality alone. For this reason, I propose either merging the formation's article into the pit's article, or vice versa with the history of the pit being a section on the Messel Formation's article. Geekgecko ( talk) 00:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Any user, including the user who first proposed the merge, may close the discussion and move forward with the merge if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge.I simply closed the discussion as there had not been a discussion since the proposal was posted over 20 days ago. ( Discuss 0nshore's contributions!!!) 00:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)