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Let's not forget the promotional side of messages in bottles. http://www.tortugarumcakes.com/site/press_article.cfm?id=message_in_bottle
I'm not sure how to place it in the article but I'm sure someone could do some research and get the pertinent info in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.95.11.190 ( talk) 07:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Growing up on the coast of Brittany in France, I found in July 1984 a bottle on the beach with a message inside. It was in English, I was only 7 years old and my parents didn't know English, so we asked some British tourists to help us understand. The message came from a small place in Ireland (county Sligo). It had been thrown to sea a little over 18 months sooner. A 9 year old kid wrote it. It said something like "if you find this message, please let me know by sending me a postcard! My name is Cian, I am 10 year old Irish boy from Sligo. Thank you very much. Greetings from Eire". Imagine that! Such an adventure for me! It made my summer vacation. The local newspaper even interviewed me. I sent the kid a postcard, and we remained penpals for quite a while. I don't remember why we quit corresponding. It was stupid, we should have continued. I guess what is cute and exciting when you're 7 becomes cheesy and corny when you're 14... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.92.4 ( talk) 22:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
"They are also used for scientific studies into ocean currents"
Source please. Surgo 20:05, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Removed website from links. Advertisement. Rj3labs 01:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Is the tidbit about shipwrecked people in 2005 really important to the history of messages in a bottle? And at the same time, is the possible myth of Christopher Columbus sending a message in a bottle during a storm worth keeping? Maybe there should be a "lore" section Mike409 ( talk) 11:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
MetaFilter user verstegan suggests that the thing about QEI employing an Uncorker is lifted from The Man Who Laughs. Seems like an open-and-shut case for removal to me, if true, but I guess one should go check the Kraske reference given. 4pq1injbok ( talk) 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Apparently some famous Roman governor wanted to know where an above-ground river went when when it disappeared underground. He dumped pine cones in to the water with distinctive markings, and they were later found floating in the Mediterranean sea. I tried to find details of it online, but could not. Has anyone got details, and should this be included here. (or elsewhere)-- Dmol ( talk) 00:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Memorandum: CNN story (June 30 source: "Did Cuban migrants who climbed lighthouse send S.O.S. note?") reports a possible real, possibly faked, message in a bottle from migrants between Cuba and Florida. The story bears watching, to see if it is validated. — RCraig09 ( talk) 14:34, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hi RCraig09!
Thanks for clarifying some of my additions to the Message in a Bottle article--I'm still learning Wikipedia conventions, so I especially appreciate the info on avoiding names of living senders and avoiding duplicating content between tables and text. In the case of the former, I just thought the maker of the table didn't know the names of the senders. My mistake!
Regarding the table entry for Carl Ott, the original source of the story is indeed the Message in a Bottle Hunter blog, as you can tell from the news article currently used as a citation, which in fact cites that blog. The current source is an article from "The Indy Channel," but it is based on and cites original research published at the Message in a Bottle Hunter blog, which was contacted by the finders for help in researching the bottle, according to the Indy Channel article. I'm just wondering why Wikipedia should cite a source that cites the original source when the original source is available? I'm sure I'm just missing something here but wanted to ask so I can learn.
Thanks, -- Concher1 ( talk) 21:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
(foregoing discussion copied from my user talk page. — RCraig09 ( talk) 23:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
The article claims that Theophrastus has used messages in bottles, but the only source given is a magazine concerned with fashion and entertainment, which provides no sources and doesn’t look like a reliable source for historical data. At the same time there is an equal number of websites that provide the exactly opposite claim and of equivalent reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikimpan ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
The article's text states that the longest term between a bottle's launching and its recovery is 131.6 years. The article's table says the longest term between a bottle's launching and its recovery is 151 years, with the text's "longest" being the item listed "2nd-longest" in the table. Am I just not reading something? If the 151 years is the longest, and the 131.6 years is just the longest according to Guinness, that needs to be sorted out. 2604:2000:C682:2D00:D843:CE4A:4831:5319 ( talk) 19:24, 10 March 2018 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
RCraig09: You removed my request for clarification regarding the sentence: "Saying she initially felt violated by publication of her personal suffering, the mother told Liebreich on condition of continued anonymity, the details of her son's 1981 death in a bicycle accident, her decades of suffering afterwards, and the story surrounding release of her letter from an English Channel ferry."
That sentence is very unclear. It says "the mother told Liebreich on condition of continued anonymity" But, as you said in your revert, there was no "continued publication", which is why it doesn't make sense. What was she requesting continued anonymity about? The sentence needs to be reworded and clarified. The sentence seems incomplete. It doesn't say what she requested anonymity about. Vontheri ( talk) 13:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
On 29 May 2022, User:Stesmo removed the entire External links section, citing WP:EL. I think it should remain. I'm aware of WP:EL and included the listed documents, mainly because they contain " information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as ...amount of detail. @ Stesmo: I'm requesting that you reconsider, especially for references 2, 3 and 5. Thanks. — RCraig09 ( talk) 16:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Let's not forget the promotional side of messages in bottles. http://www.tortugarumcakes.com/site/press_article.cfm?id=message_in_bottle
I'm not sure how to place it in the article but I'm sure someone could do some research and get the pertinent info in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.95.11.190 ( talk) 07:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Growing up on the coast of Brittany in France, I found in July 1984 a bottle on the beach with a message inside. It was in English, I was only 7 years old and my parents didn't know English, so we asked some British tourists to help us understand. The message came from a small place in Ireland (county Sligo). It had been thrown to sea a little over 18 months sooner. A 9 year old kid wrote it. It said something like "if you find this message, please let me know by sending me a postcard! My name is Cian, I am 10 year old Irish boy from Sligo. Thank you very much. Greetings from Eire". Imagine that! Such an adventure for me! It made my summer vacation. The local newspaper even interviewed me. I sent the kid a postcard, and we remained penpals for quite a while. I don't remember why we quit corresponding. It was stupid, we should have continued. I guess what is cute and exciting when you're 7 becomes cheesy and corny when you're 14... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.72.92.4 ( talk) 22:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
"They are also used for scientific studies into ocean currents"
Source please. Surgo 20:05, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Removed website from links. Advertisement. Rj3labs 01:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Is the tidbit about shipwrecked people in 2005 really important to the history of messages in a bottle? And at the same time, is the possible myth of Christopher Columbus sending a message in a bottle during a storm worth keeping? Maybe there should be a "lore" section Mike409 ( talk) 11:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
MetaFilter user verstegan suggests that the thing about QEI employing an Uncorker is lifted from The Man Who Laughs. Seems like an open-and-shut case for removal to me, if true, but I guess one should go check the Kraske reference given. 4pq1injbok ( talk) 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Apparently some famous Roman governor wanted to know where an above-ground river went when when it disappeared underground. He dumped pine cones in to the water with distinctive markings, and they were later found floating in the Mediterranean sea. I tried to find details of it online, but could not. Has anyone got details, and should this be included here. (or elsewhere)-- Dmol ( talk) 00:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Memorandum: CNN story (June 30 source: "Did Cuban migrants who climbed lighthouse send S.O.S. note?") reports a possible real, possibly faked, message in a bottle from migrants between Cuba and Florida. The story bears watching, to see if it is validated. — RCraig09 ( talk) 14:34, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hi RCraig09!
Thanks for clarifying some of my additions to the Message in a Bottle article--I'm still learning Wikipedia conventions, so I especially appreciate the info on avoiding names of living senders and avoiding duplicating content between tables and text. In the case of the former, I just thought the maker of the table didn't know the names of the senders. My mistake!
Regarding the table entry for Carl Ott, the original source of the story is indeed the Message in a Bottle Hunter blog, as you can tell from the news article currently used as a citation, which in fact cites that blog. The current source is an article from "The Indy Channel," but it is based on and cites original research published at the Message in a Bottle Hunter blog, which was contacted by the finders for help in researching the bottle, according to the Indy Channel article. I'm just wondering why Wikipedia should cite a source that cites the original source when the original source is available? I'm sure I'm just missing something here but wanted to ask so I can learn.
Thanks, -- Concher1 ( talk) 21:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
(foregoing discussion copied from my user talk page. — RCraig09 ( talk) 23:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
The article claims that Theophrastus has used messages in bottles, but the only source given is a magazine concerned with fashion and entertainment, which provides no sources and doesn’t look like a reliable source for historical data. At the same time there is an equal number of websites that provide the exactly opposite claim and of equivalent reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikimpan ( talk • contribs) 06:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
The article's text states that the longest term between a bottle's launching and its recovery is 131.6 years. The article's table says the longest term between a bottle's launching and its recovery is 151 years, with the text's "longest" being the item listed "2nd-longest" in the table. Am I just not reading something? If the 151 years is the longest, and the 131.6 years is just the longest according to Guinness, that needs to be sorted out. 2604:2000:C682:2D00:D843:CE4A:4831:5319 ( talk) 19:24, 10 March 2018 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
RCraig09: You removed my request for clarification regarding the sentence: "Saying she initially felt violated by publication of her personal suffering, the mother told Liebreich on condition of continued anonymity, the details of her son's 1981 death in a bicycle accident, her decades of suffering afterwards, and the story surrounding release of her letter from an English Channel ferry."
That sentence is very unclear. It says "the mother told Liebreich on condition of continued anonymity" But, as you said in your revert, there was no "continued publication", which is why it doesn't make sense. What was she requesting continued anonymity about? The sentence needs to be reworded and clarified. The sentence seems incomplete. It doesn't say what she requested anonymity about. Vontheri ( talk) 13:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
On 29 May 2022, User:Stesmo removed the entire External links section, citing WP:EL. I think it should remain. I'm aware of WP:EL and included the listed documents, mainly because they contain " information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as ...amount of detail. @ Stesmo: I'm requesting that you reconsider, especially for references 2, 3 and 5. Thanks. — RCraig09 ( talk) 16:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)