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Third suggestion:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 16:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Please re-write your proposal so that it is properly paraphrased, and feel free to re-submit that request at your earliest convenience.
Regards,
Spintendo
17:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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...the organisation’s members wield in excess of 12% of the digital recorded music market and embody more than 20,000 independent record labels and distributors from 57 countries. | The organisation’s members command in excess of 12% of the digital recorded music market and embody more than 20,000 independent record labels and distributors from 57 countries. [1] |
Merlin members’ repertoire commanded a 25% higher market share on the paid tiers of streaming services in comparison with their free tiers. Meanwhile 68% of Merlin members reported that the majority of their digital income comes from streaming. | Independent music enjoys a 25% higher market share on paid streaming accounts versus free. A total of 68% of Merlin members now report that the majority of their digital income comes from streaming. [2] |
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Merlin Network is the global digital rights agency for the world's independent label sector | Merlin is the global digital rights agency for the world’s independent label sector. [3] |
...to allow digital services the opportunity to globally license – via a single deal, instead of hundreds of individual local deals – commercially successful independent music labels from across the world. | ... allowing the opportunity to globally license - via a single deal, instead of hundreds of individual local deals –the world’s most important and commercially successful independent music labels. [3] |
Merlin is owned and controlled by a not-for-profit foundation, supervised by a member-elected board of 15 individuals - five each from North America, Europe and Rest of the World. | Merlin is owned and controlled by a not-for-profit foundation, supervised by a member-elected board representing the wider independent label community...this board consists of 15 members - five each from North America, Europe and Rest of the World. [3] |
The organisation operates on a non-exclusive basis, and its stated remit is to “enhance the value of our members rights in deals that cannot be easily negotiated locally or individually, or are not covered adequately by existing arrangements.” | We operate on a non-exclusive basis, and complement and enhance our members’existing digital business. Our remit is to enhance the value of our members rights in deals that cannot be easily negotiated locally or individually, or are not covered adequately by existing arrangements. [4] |
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Thanks Spintendo for the reply and explanation. I have now made the requested edits and paraphrased the text. Please see below and please let me know if there is anything I can do to improve for next time. Thanks!
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - additions to last paragraph:
Third suggestion - new paragraph addition:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 14:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
References
Under the |client=
parameter of the disclose template it states "Name PR". Please clarify the name of this group which is paying for these edits. Thank you
Spintendo
21:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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In the example above there are three URL's provided with the claim statements, but these URL's have not been placed using Citation Style 1, which is the style predominantly used by the Merlin Network article. Using this style, the WikiFormatted text would resemble the following:
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Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. [c] If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards, Spintendo 11:51, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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@ Spintendo: Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate your help. I have rewritten the edit request as described in your comment but would be great if you can have a look below before I submit. With regards to point c in your notes above, can we add the year '2018' to the last paragraph so that the information is up-to-date (see second suggestion below)?
Also, regarding the first suggestion, I wanted to point out that the list of members not found in the source below (2) can also be found here. I appreciate that it is better to use one source for all if possible, so wasn't sure how it's best to reference this as the source on the current version of the article also does not include all the members mentioned (Phonofile and Amadea Music are not Merlin Network members for example). Additionally, I used a primary source based on the criteria that a self-published source is not always automatically invalid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom Athanassiou ( talk • contribs) 15:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - addition to second sentence in last paragraph:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 16:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
References
Regards, Spintendo 15:26, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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As per my conversation with Spintendo above, I would like to submit the following edit requests.
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - new section:
Merlin Network members include:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 18:06, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
References
{{
wikitable}}
form. When two or less elements are used per entry (per line or box) the use of a list is preferred over the use of a table.
[a] As this collection of information contains only one entry per line (the name of the company) please modify the entries to make use of a list as opposed to a table. (See
Help:List for more information about lists.
[b])Regards, Spintendo 18:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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Please see revised edit request below.
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - new section:
Merlin Network members include:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 11:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Regards, Spintendo 13:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Notes
Thanks, and have a great weekend. Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 16:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from:
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Thanks for reviewing the page and cleaning it up so that it complies with Wiki policies.
I found a reference for the third sentence in the first paragraph that is not a press release. I also suggest that the wording changes slightly. Please see below.
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Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 10:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help so far. In addition to the proposed change from February, I’d like to propose some additional changes. Please see the complete list of changes below.
First suggestion - changes to first paragraph:
Second suggestion - changes to list of principal member labels:
References
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Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 11:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Edit request partially implemented
Owing to the second definition above, changing the phrase to use the word represent would not clarify the relationship between the members and the labels they are representatives of. For a concise meaning, please choose concise phrasing.
Regards,
Spintendo
15:23, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for the reply and for partially implementing the edit request, Spintendo.
May I also ask that the first sentence of the article is updated? The sentence is missing an 'a' and doesn't read well.
Dom Athanassiou (
talk)
11:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Done
Spintendo
14:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
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A couple suggested changes to the article as the company has a new CEO with a new board, and has signed a major partnership, which has been widely reported.
First suggestion - changes to first paragraph:
Second suggestion - edit to sidebar:
Third suggestion - addition to History:
References
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 17:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Edit request partially implemented
Regards, Spintendo 20:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
References
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First suggestion:
Second suggestion:
Third suggestion:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 16:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Please re-write your proposal so that it is properly paraphrased, and feel free to re-submit that request at your earliest convenience.
Regards,
Spintendo
17:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
As it appears in the edit request |
As it appears in the source material |
---|---|
...the organisation’s members wield in excess of 12% of the digital recorded music market and embody more than 20,000 independent record labels and distributors from 57 countries. | The organisation’s members command in excess of 12% of the digital recorded music market and embody more than 20,000 independent record labels and distributors from 57 countries. [1] |
Merlin members’ repertoire commanded a 25% higher market share on the paid tiers of streaming services in comparison with their free tiers. Meanwhile 68% of Merlin members reported that the majority of their digital income comes from streaming. | Independent music enjoys a 25% higher market share on paid streaming accounts versus free. A total of 68% of Merlin members now report that the majority of their digital income comes from streaming. [2] |
As it appears in the Merlin Network Wikipedia article |
As it appears in the source material |
---|---|
Merlin Network is the global digital rights agency for the world's independent label sector | Merlin is the global digital rights agency for the world’s independent label sector. [3] |
...to allow digital services the opportunity to globally license – via a single deal, instead of hundreds of individual local deals – commercially successful independent music labels from across the world. | ... allowing the opportunity to globally license - via a single deal, instead of hundreds of individual local deals –the world’s most important and commercially successful independent music labels. [3] |
Merlin is owned and controlled by a not-for-profit foundation, supervised by a member-elected board of 15 individuals - five each from North America, Europe and Rest of the World. | Merlin is owned and controlled by a not-for-profit foundation, supervised by a member-elected board representing the wider independent label community...this board consists of 15 members - five each from North America, Europe and Rest of the World. [3] |
The organisation operates on a non-exclusive basis, and its stated remit is to “enhance the value of our members rights in deals that cannot be easily negotiated locally or individually, or are not covered adequately by existing arrangements.” | We operate on a non-exclusive basis, and complement and enhance our members’existing digital business. Our remit is to enhance the value of our members rights in deals that cannot be easily negotiated locally or individually, or are not covered adequately by existing arrangements. [4] |
References
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Thanks Spintendo for the reply and explanation. I have now made the requested edits and paraphrased the text. Please see below and please let me know if there is anything I can do to improve for next time. Thanks!
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - additions to last paragraph:
Third suggestion - new paragraph addition:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 14:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
References
Under the |client=
parameter of the disclose template it states "Name PR". Please clarify the name of this group which is paying for these edits. Thank you
Spintendo
21:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Unable to review edit request
Your edit request could not be reviewed because the provided references are not formatted correctly.
[a] The citation style predominantly used by the Merlin Network article is
Citation Style 1 (CS1). The citation style used in the edit request consists of bare URL's.
[b] Any requested edit of yours which may be implemented will need to resemble the current style already in use in the article – in this case, CS1.
[c] (See
WP:CITEVAR.) In the extended section below titled Citation style, I have illustrated two examples: one showing how the edit request was submitted, and another showing how requests should be submitted in the future:
Citation style
|
---|
In the example above there are three URL's provided with the claim statements, but these URL's have not been placed using Citation Style 1, which is the style predominantly used by the Merlin Network article. Using this style, the WikiFormatted text would resemble the following:
In the example above the references have been formatted according to Citation Style 1, which shows the author, the source's name, date, etc., all information which is lost when only the links are provided. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, larger edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review. |
Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. [c] If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards, Spintendo 11:51, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Notes
References
It is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it.
@ Spintendo: Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate your help. I have rewritten the edit request as described in your comment but would be great if you can have a look below before I submit. With regards to point c in your notes above, can we add the year '2018' to the last paragraph so that the information is up-to-date (see second suggestion below)?
Also, regarding the first suggestion, I wanted to point out that the list of members not found in the source below (2) can also be found here. I appreciate that it is better to use one source for all if possible, so wasn't sure how it's best to reference this as the source on the current version of the article also does not include all the members mentioned (Phonofile and Amadea Music are not Merlin Network members for example). Additionally, I used a primary source based on the criteria that a self-published source is not always automatically invalid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom Athanassiou ( talk • contribs) 15:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - addition to second sentence in last paragraph:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 16:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
References
Regards, Spintendo 15:26, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Notes
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
As per my conversation with Spintendo above, I would like to submit the following edit requests.
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - new section:
Merlin Network members include:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 18:06, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
References
{{
wikitable}}
form. When two or less elements are used per entry (per line or box) the use of a list is preferred over the use of a table.
[a] As this collection of information contains only one entry per line (the name of the company) please modify the entries to make use of a list as opposed to a table. (See
Help:List for more information about lists.
[b])Regards, Spintendo 18:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Notes
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Please see revised edit request below.
First suggestion - changes to second paragraph:
Second suggestion - new section:
Merlin Network members include:
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 11:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Regards, Spintendo 13:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Notes
Thanks, and have a great weekend. Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 16:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150708095848/http://www.merlinnetwork.org/what-we-do. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see
"using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or
"donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)
For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing the page and cleaning it up so that it complies with Wiki policies.
I found a reference for the third sentence in the first paragraph that is not a press release. I also suggest that the wording changes slightly. Please see below.
References
{{
cite web}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1=
(
help)
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 10:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
![]() | Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. [See below] |
Thanks for your help so far. In addition to the proposed change from February, I’d like to propose some additional changes. Please see the complete list of changes below.
First suggestion - changes to first paragraph:
Second suggestion - changes to list of principal member labels:
References
{{
cite web}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1=
(
help)
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 11:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Edit request partially implemented
Owing to the second definition above, changing the phrase to use the word represent would not clarify the relationship between the members and the labels they are representatives of. For a concise meaning, please choose concise phrasing.
Regards,
Spintendo
15:23, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Thanks for the reply and for partially implementing the edit request, Spintendo.
May I also ask that the first sentence of the article is updated? The sentence is missing an 'a' and doesn't read well.
Dom Athanassiou (
talk)
11:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Done
Spintendo
14:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. Please see the reply section below for additional information about this request. |
A couple suggested changes to the article as the company has a new CEO with a new board, and has signed a major partnership, which has been widely reported.
First suggestion - changes to first paragraph:
Second suggestion - edit to sidebar:
Third suggestion - addition to History:
References
Dom Athanassiou ( talk) 17:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Edit request partially implemented
Regards, Spintendo 20:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
References
Instructions for Submitters: If the rationale for a change is not obvious (particularly for proposed deletions), explain.