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This article is somewhat POV and sounds like it was written for a popular magazine, not wikipedia. I cleaned up some of the more evident POV, but I really think this article needs a re-write. marnues 04:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Removed: "Later on 6-years after preforming in 1982, King Diamond had to retire in 1988 before releasing his best album called Conspiracy and disbanded after his two solo albums. In 1991, King Diamond returned to Mercyful Fate to get everything back to normal again until King Diamond got fired in 2000."
I couldn't work out the chronology in this paragraph -- sannse 09:31 Mar 30, 2003 (UTC)
For Michael:
Interpretations about "Melissa" are personal interpretations of the author. Comes off like an album review. Should be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MADDOX456 ( talk • contribs) 01:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Why was MercyfulFateGroup.jpg removed? I'll see if I can find another. Oddity- 03:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I would call Mercyful Fate black metal - one of the first wave of none-Norweigan black metal bands, in fact. It fits, stylistically, as well as with their beliefs and intent. What says everyone else? Dysk
That is because, MF musically has almost nothing in common with bands like Darkthrone and Mayhem, although their lyrics and image was highly influential on Black metal. Other a few lyric similarities, MF has nothing to do with black metal. Avador 04:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I would agree that MF could be some type of "early black metal", or "proto black metal", ect. Image wise, lyricaly and somewhat musically, it's obvious the band had a big influence on what would become black metal, but genre wise, if someone said "what kind of music is Mercyful Fate?" the answer would not be "black metal", IMO. Skeletor2112 11:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Lyrically MF may be very similar to black metal, but musically they are completely heavy metal. Even if they were known as Black Metal in the 80's they are known as heavy metal today. Remember that Metallica was called power metal in the 80's, but no one is going around calling them power metal today. marnues 07:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
That's only modern critics fault! In the 80's and early '90, bands of this presumed "First Wave of Black Metal" were labeled simply as heavy metal or, at least, thrash metal. Today, metal is a complicated genre with those millions of labels and with its changed history. Tomorrow we'll see the "First Wave of Thrash Metal" of Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Raven, Judas Priest, Diamond Head and the "First Wave of Death Metal" of Slayer, Dark Angel, Kreator and Destruction. Perhaps also "the first wave of hair metal" with KISS, Alice Cooper and New York Dolls. However I agree with Marnues, lyrically they may be black metal, but musically heavy metal. -- Born Again 83 ( talk) 16:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
A member of ANUS.com claims to have returned Melissa to King Diamond. [1] Discuss ... ?
-- 220.237.229.79 14:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Hope they turned up the talent knob! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.116.210 ( talk) 01:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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So, I would ask that the concerned parties here ask for a second opinion on the citations, because I do not feel qualified to judge the merit of these citations. In the mean time, maybe you guys can fix/adjust what I mentioned? PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 01:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Holy crap King Diamond ROCKS. I couldn't resist when I saw Mercyful Fate! PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 08:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Additional Comment:: I would like to add a few comments to this review of a very important heavy metal band. Mercyful Fate were pioneers of metal and were one of the few bands which defined black metal for the many groups founded in the 1990s. I think that a section about the reception that the band received in its various incarnations should be added to the article. In fact, their early and most significant accomplishments were not easily recognized by the press, which heavily criticized the music, the shows, the appearance of King Diamond and the Satanic lyrics. Another part that bothers me are the early years of the band, when Mercyful Fate travelled all over Europe with the most important metal bands of the time and befriended Metallica, which supported them in many shows. I think that something about those tours should be mentioned in the article. About the influences, critics and both Shermann and Denner acknowledged the influence of Judas Priest on their music, which should be added. About the legacy, I would add something about the influence of Mercyful Fate on the many Scandinavian black metal bands founded in 1990s. Finally, the 'Associated Acts' line in the infobox should be filled with at least Force of Evil and King Diamond. Lewismaster ( talk) 11:41, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Response to GA Review: I fixed most of the problems mentioned in the GA review above. Hope it helps.-- SilverBullitt ( talk) 07:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
The sections recording and release, Melissa, the skull, content and music, touring and various info are a copypaste from this page. Nite-Sirk ( talk) 05:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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This article is somewhat POV and sounds like it was written for a popular magazine, not wikipedia. I cleaned up some of the more evident POV, but I really think this article needs a re-write. marnues 04:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Removed: "Later on 6-years after preforming in 1982, King Diamond had to retire in 1988 before releasing his best album called Conspiracy and disbanded after his two solo albums. In 1991, King Diamond returned to Mercyful Fate to get everything back to normal again until King Diamond got fired in 2000."
I couldn't work out the chronology in this paragraph -- sannse 09:31 Mar 30, 2003 (UTC)
For Michael:
Interpretations about "Melissa" are personal interpretations of the author. Comes off like an album review. Should be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MADDOX456 ( talk • contribs) 01:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Why was MercyfulFateGroup.jpg removed? I'll see if I can find another. Oddity- 03:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I would call Mercyful Fate black metal - one of the first wave of none-Norweigan black metal bands, in fact. It fits, stylistically, as well as with their beliefs and intent. What says everyone else? Dysk
That is because, MF musically has almost nothing in common with bands like Darkthrone and Mayhem, although their lyrics and image was highly influential on Black metal. Other a few lyric similarities, MF has nothing to do with black metal. Avador 04:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I would agree that MF could be some type of "early black metal", or "proto black metal", ect. Image wise, lyricaly and somewhat musically, it's obvious the band had a big influence on what would become black metal, but genre wise, if someone said "what kind of music is Mercyful Fate?" the answer would not be "black metal", IMO. Skeletor2112 11:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Lyrically MF may be very similar to black metal, but musically they are completely heavy metal. Even if they were known as Black Metal in the 80's they are known as heavy metal today. Remember that Metallica was called power metal in the 80's, but no one is going around calling them power metal today. marnues 07:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
That's only modern critics fault! In the 80's and early '90, bands of this presumed "First Wave of Black Metal" were labeled simply as heavy metal or, at least, thrash metal. Today, metal is a complicated genre with those millions of labels and with its changed history. Tomorrow we'll see the "First Wave of Thrash Metal" of Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Raven, Judas Priest, Diamond Head and the "First Wave of Death Metal" of Slayer, Dark Angel, Kreator and Destruction. Perhaps also "the first wave of hair metal" with KISS, Alice Cooper and New York Dolls. However I agree with Marnues, lyrically they may be black metal, but musically heavy metal. -- Born Again 83 ( talk) 16:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
A member of ANUS.com claims to have returned Melissa to King Diamond. [1] Discuss ... ?
-- 220.237.229.79 14:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Hope they turned up the talent knob! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.116.210 ( talk) 01:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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So, I would ask that the concerned parties here ask for a second opinion on the citations, because I do not feel qualified to judge the merit of these citations. In the mean time, maybe you guys can fix/adjust what I mentioned? PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 01:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Holy crap King Diamond ROCKS. I couldn't resist when I saw Mercyful Fate! PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 08:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Additional Comment:: I would like to add a few comments to this review of a very important heavy metal band. Mercyful Fate were pioneers of metal and were one of the few bands which defined black metal for the many groups founded in the 1990s. I think that a section about the reception that the band received in its various incarnations should be added to the article. In fact, their early and most significant accomplishments were not easily recognized by the press, which heavily criticized the music, the shows, the appearance of King Diamond and the Satanic lyrics. Another part that bothers me are the early years of the band, when Mercyful Fate travelled all over Europe with the most important metal bands of the time and befriended Metallica, which supported them in many shows. I think that something about those tours should be mentioned in the article. About the influences, critics and both Shermann and Denner acknowledged the influence of Judas Priest on their music, which should be added. About the legacy, I would add something about the influence of Mercyful Fate on the many Scandinavian black metal bands founded in 1990s. Finally, the 'Associated Acts' line in the infobox should be filled with at least Force of Evil and King Diamond. Lewismaster ( talk) 11:41, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Response to GA Review: I fixed most of the problems mentioned in the GA review above. Hope it helps.-- SilverBullitt ( talk) 07:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
The sections recording and release, Melissa, the skull, content and music, touring and various info are a copypaste from this page. Nite-Sirk ( talk) 05:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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