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Contractor under the Mentor sector directs to a disambiguation page. The disambiguation page (unhelpfully) carries the definition, and this refers to a general understanding of "contractor". From a certain point of view redirecting to the disambiguation page helps, but is really "bad form". Would we be better linking to a specific contractor, or removing the link? I'll raise the point on the disambiguation page that we need a separate definition somehwere, properly linked to the dictionary. Not too sure what to do here... LeeG 13:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
As near as I can tell, Mentor and Mentes are separate people. In Odyssey I:225–228, Athena states "Behold in me / Mentes, the offspring of a chief renown'd / In war; Anchialus; and I rule, myself, / An island race, the Taphians oar-expert" (tr. Cowper). Which facts are all inconsistent with the description of Mentor presented here. In the abscence of other evidence, I'm removing "(sometimes Mentês)" from the lead. Sighrik 15:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
It has been suggested that Maître à penser be merged with Mentor, but no argument is developed making a case that it is logical to do so. Reading the 2 articles would leave one to question the value of such a merger. Recommend we not merge. Skaal - Williamborg ( Bill) 02:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Book 2.225 not 2.255, I believe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.113.131 ( talk) 00:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is there a World AIDS Day at the bottom of this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzez1919 ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't find any corroborating evidence that "telemachus" would be a more accurate term than "mentee." This seems like an idea to me rather than a fact... 18.226.1.79 ( talk) 18:14, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I came to came to check on this dictionary entry at
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mentor:
"2. Mentor Greek Mythology Odysseus's trusted counselor, in whose guise Athena became the guardian and teacher of Telemachus." But could find no mention of him in the original, despite Mentor being an entry on Wikipedia stating that "In his old age Mentor was a friend of Odysseus".
What I have found now is this:
"Mentor was a son of Alcimus and a friend of Odysseus, who, on quitting Ithaca, entrusted to him the care of his house. (Hom. Od. ii. 226, &c., xxii. 235.) Athena assumed his appearance when she conducted Telemachus to Pylos. (Od. ii. 269, 402, iii. 13, &c., iv. 654.) On Odysseus' return, Mentor assisted him in the contest with the suitors, and brought about a reconciliation between him and the people (xxii. 206, xxiv. 445, &c.)." from
http://mythindex.com/greek-mythology/M/Mentor.html (and a fantastic synopsis of the story at:
http://www.maicar.com/GML/Mentor4.html)
LookingGlass (
talk)
03:50, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed a couple of items, rather less than facts, from this dubious excuse for a fuzzy article. cygnis insignis 17:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Mentor (Odyssey). Despite some late opposition, there is a clear consensus that mentorship is the primary topic. There also seems to be an agreement on using "(Odyssey)" as the disambiguation. Jenks24 ( talk) 17:29, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Mentor →
Mentor (mythology) – While Mentor is the origin of the term "mentor", I think the latter has well eclipsed the former, both in terms of
popularity and importance, over the last thousand years or so. The base title should redirect to
Mentorship. (Fun fact: the top Google result for
mentor -wikipedia is for a a company that makes "Breast Products", i.e., implants. That's some
SEO for you.) --
BDD (
talk) 19:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC) Relisted.
Jenks24 (
talk)
13:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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Contractor under the Mentor sector directs to a disambiguation page. The disambiguation page (unhelpfully) carries the definition, and this refers to a general understanding of "contractor". From a certain point of view redirecting to the disambiguation page helps, but is really "bad form". Would we be better linking to a specific contractor, or removing the link? I'll raise the point on the disambiguation page that we need a separate definition somehwere, properly linked to the dictionary. Not too sure what to do here... LeeG 13:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
As near as I can tell, Mentor and Mentes are separate people. In Odyssey I:225–228, Athena states "Behold in me / Mentes, the offspring of a chief renown'd / In war; Anchialus; and I rule, myself, / An island race, the Taphians oar-expert" (tr. Cowper). Which facts are all inconsistent with the description of Mentor presented here. In the abscence of other evidence, I'm removing "(sometimes Mentês)" from the lead. Sighrik 15:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
It has been suggested that Maître à penser be merged with Mentor, but no argument is developed making a case that it is logical to do so. Reading the 2 articles would leave one to question the value of such a merger. Recommend we not merge. Skaal - Williamborg ( Bill) 02:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Book 2.225 not 2.255, I believe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.113.131 ( talk) 00:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is there a World AIDS Day at the bottom of this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzez1919 ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't find any corroborating evidence that "telemachus" would be a more accurate term than "mentee." This seems like an idea to me rather than a fact... 18.226.1.79 ( talk) 18:14, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I came to came to check on this dictionary entry at
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mentor:
"2. Mentor Greek Mythology Odysseus's trusted counselor, in whose guise Athena became the guardian and teacher of Telemachus." But could find no mention of him in the original, despite Mentor being an entry on Wikipedia stating that "In his old age Mentor was a friend of Odysseus".
What I have found now is this:
"Mentor was a son of Alcimus and a friend of Odysseus, who, on quitting Ithaca, entrusted to him the care of his house. (Hom. Od. ii. 226, &c., xxii. 235.) Athena assumed his appearance when she conducted Telemachus to Pylos. (Od. ii. 269, 402, iii. 13, &c., iv. 654.) On Odysseus' return, Mentor assisted him in the contest with the suitors, and brought about a reconciliation between him and the people (xxii. 206, xxiv. 445, &c.)." from
http://mythindex.com/greek-mythology/M/Mentor.html (and a fantastic synopsis of the story at:
http://www.maicar.com/GML/Mentor4.html)
LookingGlass (
talk)
03:50, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed a couple of items, rather less than facts, from this dubious excuse for a fuzzy article. cygnis insignis 17:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Mentor (Odyssey). Despite some late opposition, there is a clear consensus that mentorship is the primary topic. There also seems to be an agreement on using "(Odyssey)" as the disambiguation. Jenks24 ( talk) 17:29, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Mentor →
Mentor (mythology) – While Mentor is the origin of the term "mentor", I think the latter has well eclipsed the former, both in terms of
popularity and importance, over the last thousand years or so. The base title should redirect to
Mentorship. (Fun fact: the top Google result for
mentor -wikipedia is for a a company that makes "Breast Products", i.e., implants. That's some
SEO for you.) --
BDD (
talk) 19:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC) Relisted.
Jenks24 (
talk)
13:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)