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Epachamo The question is what would be proper context. I *think* I've read articles comparing number of self-reported members in national surveys vs. The church membership numbers. However, the question is for *this* article, what would represent context. Also anything with levels of activity... Naraht ( talk) 19:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I think organizations are the ones that determine who is and who isn't a member in the organization. Do you know of an organization where membership is determined by someone else?
As for the counties the church doesn't release it on their webpage. ARDA publishes the data for each county (done for each census year and not every year). However, at least ARDA's data is highly flawed. For one, if you look at counties with the same number of congregations within each state you'll see membership numbers repeat over and over again. - unless a large portion had exactly 354 members and another portion of the counties in the state has exactly 221 members... 2010 count didn't have this flaw, but 2020 does. The other ARDA issue regardless of census year data is that counties membership is counted by members attending congregations in that county, rather than county they reside in. Counties with no congregations have zero members. Dmm1169 ( talk) 01:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
What are secondary sources for full membership? I know that there are (year and country picked at random) things like "a 2001 survey of religious membership in Australia" which is used as a counterpoint, where the LDS church reported membership of 460,124 members and based on the survey membership in 205,000. But that says nothing about estimates for Tonga or France. Naraht ( talk) 14:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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Epachamo The question is what would be proper context. I *think* I've read articles comparing number of self-reported members in national surveys vs. The church membership numbers. However, the question is for *this* article, what would represent context. Also anything with levels of activity... Naraht ( talk) 19:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I think organizations are the ones that determine who is and who isn't a member in the organization. Do you know of an organization where membership is determined by someone else?
As for the counties the church doesn't release it on their webpage. ARDA publishes the data for each county (done for each census year and not every year). However, at least ARDA's data is highly flawed. For one, if you look at counties with the same number of congregations within each state you'll see membership numbers repeat over and over again. - unless a large portion had exactly 354 members and another portion of the counties in the state has exactly 221 members... 2010 count didn't have this flaw, but 2020 does. The other ARDA issue regardless of census year data is that counties membership is counted by members attending congregations in that county, rather than county they reside in. Counties with no congregations have zero members. Dmm1169 ( talk) 01:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
What are secondary sources for full membership? I know that there are (year and country picked at random) things like "a 2001 survey of religious membership in Australia" which is used as a counterpoint, where the LDS church reported membership of 460,124 members and based on the survey membership in 205,000. But that says nothing about estimates for Tonga or France. Naraht ( talk) 14:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)