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And let's face it, that's an understatement. It contains almost no specific sources and much of it looks as if it could have been written by former RAF terrorists. Some of it is almost comical in that regard.
Mosedschurte (
talk) 15:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
That really makes the quality of research in such a sensible case really questionable.
-- Addition: Andrea Klump was not evidently a member of RAF. She was trialed in 2004 for taking part in an assault on russian emigrants in Budapest 1991, and was then sentenced in summary to 12 years for attempted murder and a 2001 verdict for an assault on a NATO base in Rota/Spain [0].
Compare german Wikipedia page, where it says:
"Eine Mitgliedschaft in der RAF konnte ihr jedoch nie nachgewiesen werden, auch liegen von behördlicher Seite keine diesbezüglichen Annahmen mehr vor.
Daher wurde auch der Vorwurf der Mitgliedschaft in einer terroristischen Vereinigung nach 129a StGB gemäß § 154a StPO gegen sie eingestellt.[1]"
" RAF Membership could never be proven, also no relating assumptions are remaining anymore from german authorities.
Therefore charges of Membership in a terrorist organisation according to § 129a StGB (german criminal law) had been scrapped according to § 154 StPO (german code of criminal procedure)" [1]"
[0]
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/a-320318.html
[1]
http://www.tolmein.de/linke-geschichte,raf,181,raf-verfahren.html
89.196.41.168 (
talk) 15:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Would anyone be interested in making a template, for use on this and other articles, with one instance per person; something like {{ Episode list}}? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Any claim trying to imply SPK was RAF is contentious, libelous and defamatory content denied by verifiable and reliable sources and legal procedures, and are dealing with living people, therefore these contents should not be added at all. Per WP:BLP, contents should remain conservative when dealing on contentious contents that are defamatory. I erased any of those editions as WP:BLP warns that those contentious contents must be erased immediately and aggresively due the respective harm and grievance against those people. -- ClaudioSantos ( talk) 15:26, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Few sentences written in such a way to completely demonize and misinform about Meinhof. A sentence from a whole statement altering its original meaning, and: "apparently killed herself" ??? << In 1978 the committee published its report, concluding that: "The formal claim that Ulrike Meinhof committed suicide by hanging is unfounded, given the fact that the investigation results reasonably converge to the conclusion that she could not hang herself. Most probably Ulrike Meinhof was already dead before she was hanged and there are warning signs indicating the involvement of a third party regarding her death."[16][17] Ulrike Meinhof's page in wikipedia ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stelarov ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Edited. 147.27.58.40 ( talk) 19:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
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And let's face it, that's an understatement. It contains almost no specific sources and much of it looks as if it could have been written by former RAF terrorists. Some of it is almost comical in that regard.
Mosedschurte (
talk) 15:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
That really makes the quality of research in such a sensible case really questionable.
-- Addition: Andrea Klump was not evidently a member of RAF. She was trialed in 2004 for taking part in an assault on russian emigrants in Budapest 1991, and was then sentenced in summary to 12 years for attempted murder and a 2001 verdict for an assault on a NATO base in Rota/Spain [0].
Compare german Wikipedia page, where it says:
"Eine Mitgliedschaft in der RAF konnte ihr jedoch nie nachgewiesen werden, auch liegen von behördlicher Seite keine diesbezüglichen Annahmen mehr vor.
Daher wurde auch der Vorwurf der Mitgliedschaft in einer terroristischen Vereinigung nach 129a StGB gemäß § 154a StPO gegen sie eingestellt.[1]"
" RAF Membership could never be proven, also no relating assumptions are remaining anymore from german authorities.
Therefore charges of Membership in a terrorist organisation according to § 129a StGB (german criminal law) had been scrapped according to § 154 StPO (german code of criminal procedure)" [1]"
[0]
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/a-320318.html
[1]
http://www.tolmein.de/linke-geschichte,raf,181,raf-verfahren.html
89.196.41.168 (
talk) 15:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Would anyone be interested in making a template, for use on this and other articles, with one instance per person; something like {{ Episode list}}? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Any claim trying to imply SPK was RAF is contentious, libelous and defamatory content denied by verifiable and reliable sources and legal procedures, and are dealing with living people, therefore these contents should not be added at all. Per WP:BLP, contents should remain conservative when dealing on contentious contents that are defamatory. I erased any of those editions as WP:BLP warns that those contentious contents must be erased immediately and aggresively due the respective harm and grievance against those people. -- ClaudioSantos ( talk) 15:26, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Few sentences written in such a way to completely demonize and misinform about Meinhof. A sentence from a whole statement altering its original meaning, and: "apparently killed herself" ??? << In 1978 the committee published its report, concluding that: "The formal claim that Ulrike Meinhof committed suicide by hanging is unfounded, given the fact that the investigation results reasonably converge to the conclusion that she could not hang herself. Most probably Ulrike Meinhof was already dead before she was hanged and there are warning signs indicating the involvement of a third party regarding her death."[16][17] Ulrike Meinhof's page in wikipedia ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stelarov ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Edited. 147.27.58.40 ( talk) 19:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
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