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I think that this page raises some questions about notability. Please understand that I am not saying this as a veiled insinuation about deleting the page. I'm really asking the questions, because I don't know the answers, and I would like to see them discussed. On the one hand, the subject of this page is an associate/adjunct professor. That academic rank would rather clearly fail WP:Academic. On the other hand, the page indicates (and seems to go to some pains to emphasize) the subject's h-index and other measures of citation. A case could be made that those metrics justify a WP:GNG claim that sufficient notability has been established. How do we reconcile these considerations? And if it is becoming commonplace for scholars with a particular citation level to be, nonetheless, appointed at levels below full professorship, does that mean that such citation levels are inconsistent with WP:Academic? -- Tryptofish ( talk) 22:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Let me make some suggestions for improving this stub page. First of all: WP:NOTRESUME – as much as what the shortcut itself says as what it says at the target page. Most readers are not really going to be that interested in the magna cum laude part, or the grant. There are tons of academics who have had multiple research grants, but who are not notable for our purposes. It sounds like the text is trying too hard to say "this page passes notability", and that leads readers like me to wonder why. On the positive side, it should be possible to explain more about what readers are likely to be interested in. The page says that "Oitzl is mainly interested in the relationships between stress, cognition, and emotion." What has her research shown those relationships to be? What is new about our understanding of those relationships is really the key information that is currently missing from the page. By briefly summarizing the conclusions of a few of the most important papers, it should be pretty straightforward to add that information. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 21:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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I think that this page raises some questions about notability. Please understand that I am not saying this as a veiled insinuation about deleting the page. I'm really asking the questions, because I don't know the answers, and I would like to see them discussed. On the one hand, the subject of this page is an associate/adjunct professor. That academic rank would rather clearly fail WP:Academic. On the other hand, the page indicates (and seems to go to some pains to emphasize) the subject's h-index and other measures of citation. A case could be made that those metrics justify a WP:GNG claim that sufficient notability has been established. How do we reconcile these considerations? And if it is becoming commonplace for scholars with a particular citation level to be, nonetheless, appointed at levels below full professorship, does that mean that such citation levels are inconsistent with WP:Academic? -- Tryptofish ( talk) 22:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Let me make some suggestions for improving this stub page. First of all: WP:NOTRESUME – as much as what the shortcut itself says as what it says at the target page. Most readers are not really going to be that interested in the magna cum laude part, or the grant. There are tons of academics who have had multiple research grants, but who are not notable for our purposes. It sounds like the text is trying too hard to say "this page passes notability", and that leads readers like me to wonder why. On the positive side, it should be possible to explain more about what readers are likely to be interested in. The page says that "Oitzl is mainly interested in the relationships between stress, cognition, and emotion." What has her research shown those relationships to be? What is new about our understanding of those relationships is really the key information that is currently missing from the page. By briefly summarizing the conclusions of a few of the most important papers, it should be pretty straightforward to add that information. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 21:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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