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a certainly well meaning if somewhat strident and controversial figure especially in anti-colonialist circles. citation needed Thank you CyntWorkStuff 17:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Some brave person who only identified themselves by their IP Address deleted a link evidentially because it did not correspond to their philosophical views and then left a dumb statement as to why they were censoring women's voices. I have restored it.
People should remember that this is an Encyclopedia. If you want to make a "Fan Page" may I suggest you try MySpace and other more appropriate venues. CyntWorkStuff 17:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
This makes things small.
This works for reference sections. Perhaps it could be used elsewhere.
Also have looked at a number of other academic's entries and think this one should also follow a bit more in the standard mode. So I'm also going to change "Book" to "Selected bibliography" so Articles and things she's contributed to can be added in. Other data missing includes
Again her CV would probably be so helpful if anyone can find it (also it ought to be in her links). Thanks CyntWorkStuff 22:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
It is against wikipedia's WP:BLP policy to get into personal details on bios of living persons without a clear encyclopedic reason. Privacy concerns are moral, policy, and in fact Florida law. The general rule of thumb is to only print personal details that mainsteam publishers have printed so we can substitute their profesional opinion for ours and not get into endless agruments over where to draw the line. WAS 4.250 08:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
An extensive list of quotes like this belongs on Wikiquote, not Wikipedia. The quotes should go there, then a link to Wikiquote added to the bottom of this article. The Andrea Dworkin article provides a good example of this.
Posting somebody's entire CV is not really considered appropriate either (though a listing of most notable books and articles definitely should be included). Hosting something like this off of Wikipedia and then linking to it should be OK, though. Peter G Werner 00:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Moving CyntWorkStuff off my user page to this page because it relates to this page and this will be where I will be responding to her unsubstatiated and false accusations against Melissa Farley -- Nikkicraft 02:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
She wrote:.
RESPONSE: CyntWorkStuff wrote that Dr. Farley is a "controversial figure especially in anti-colonialist circles.
This is unsubstantiated false accusation from CyntWorkStuff about a Living People, Dr. Melissa Farley. This is against Wikipedia policies, also it is irresponsible and unethical. I have repeated requested documentations for these accusations and she refuses to furnish them.
Farley was invited by the editor of the Fourth World Journal, to submit her work on prostitution and colonialism. After peer review, Prostitution of Indigenous Women: Sex Inequality and the Colonization of Canada’s First Nations Women was published on the Center for World Indigenous Studies website.
The editor of the Fourth World Journal, Rudolph Ryser, wrote an Introduction to Volume 6, Number 1 and Farley's work: "In this issue we have collected writings from some fine scholars and researchers who elevate to a new level the discussion of self government, traditional medicine and sexual violence in the Fourth World. The Fourth World Journal has been the venue for the discussion of subjects often dismissed or ignored. In the tradition of careful research and thoughtful analysis Dr. Melissa Farley presents here a peer-reviewed article detailing her findings of her research on First World prostitution of Fourth World peoples. This extraordinary piece exposes with precision and accuracy the devastating causes of prostitution and its deeply traumatic effects on First Nations women in present-day Vancouver and indigenous women the world over." -- Nikkicraft 06:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
An unpopular and controversial figure especially in anti-colonialist circles? Hardly. In fact Farley is a faculty member of the Center for World Indigenous Studies and has published one of the first several peer-reviewed articles articulating prostitution as a consequence of colonialization.
"Within the gendered institution of prostitution, race and class create a hierarchy with indigenous women at its lowest point. For many women, the experience of prostitution stems from the historical trauma of colonization. -- Farley, M, Lynne, J, and Cotton, A (2005) Prostitution in Vancouver: Violence and the Colonization of First Nations Women. Transcultural Psychiatry 42: 242-271. -- Nikkicraft 07:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll be fixing the citation for all the quotes on the quotation page tomorrow. I hope what I was able to accomplish this evening was helpful. -- Nikkicraft 08:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
We need to delete "Unknown-importance biography articles" and also perhaps "unassessed". How would that be done?
Peter, thanks for transferring the quotes over. I had not known how to set up a Wikiquotes page, but I have opened up a Wikiquotes account and have now added the sources for all the Melissa Farley's quotations that I collected yesterday. (You made a section for "unsourced" quotations. I removed that because there really shouldn't be unsourced quotations for Living People (seems to me). Now on this, and associated pages, there are not just irresponsible speculations casting aspersions about the reliability of Farley's research, but actual citations and links that document how thorough her research actually is. -- Nikkicraft 20:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Can someone please let me know how I can fix all the "Living_people" links on this discussion page? I went to that particular web page and have unsuccessfully tried various combinations and can't get it to work. thanx! -- Nikkicraft 21:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I've unbolded criticism. Perhaps I don't understand the hierarchy of the current layout, however the bolding of criticism represents to a lay reader a point of view and places too much emphasis on that section for the single link.
Hi, I realized there was a lot of duplication that got added to the page. I probably did it and if so it was not intentional. I removed that and hope I did it correctly. I also tried to clean up the indentations so it would be more readable. I hope that is okay and if it's not I apologize in advance. -- Nikkicraft 20:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Peter, Please explain in this section specifically why you think this page is not neutral and I will do my best to clean up any details but over all as far as I can see it's a pretty good article. Fill me in on why it isn't. Thanks, -- Nikkicraft 01:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Peter, you need to document your inaccurate claim that Farley has not researched off street prostitution. You're wrong. Also you're requesting peer review of research that has already been peer reviewed. Are you actually suggesting that Wiki reviewers supplant the rigorous professional standards of peer review? : ) Farley has been peer reviewed in more than 20 law, psychology and medical journals, including Transcultural Psychiatry, Yale Journal of Law & Feminism, Journal of Trauma Practice, Women and Health, Feminism and Psychology, Women & Criminal Justice, Women & Therapy, Journal of Family Practice, Journal of Substance Abuse Treatment, Psychological Reports, Psychotherapy & Psychosomatics, to name a few. -- Nikkicraft 05:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello everybody! I've been asked by an anonymous user here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Pv7721&diff=prev&oldid=78177641 to explain my edit here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Melissa_Farley&diff=78068280&oldid=72720999 Actually, for me a wiki stub is like a one liner article. And this one is largely more than one screen of information. So it is definitely NOT a wiki stub! Then there is this wikiproject of biographies that has filled all the talk pages with a template indicating the level of the article! As I don't know the project's way of labeling the article I don't have the slightest idea what's a stub for the biographies wikiproject. I think it's up to whoever knows bet to rerate this article. Thanks! -- Vlad| -> 16:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 |
a certainly well meaning if somewhat strident and controversial figure especially in anti-colonialist circles. citation needed Thank you CyntWorkStuff 17:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Some brave person who only identified themselves by their IP Address deleted a link evidentially because it did not correspond to their philosophical views and then left a dumb statement as to why they were censoring women's voices. I have restored it.
People should remember that this is an Encyclopedia. If you want to make a "Fan Page" may I suggest you try MySpace and other more appropriate venues. CyntWorkStuff 17:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
This makes things small.
This works for reference sections. Perhaps it could be used elsewhere.
Also have looked at a number of other academic's entries and think this one should also follow a bit more in the standard mode. So I'm also going to change "Book" to "Selected bibliography" so Articles and things she's contributed to can be added in. Other data missing includes
Again her CV would probably be so helpful if anyone can find it (also it ought to be in her links). Thanks CyntWorkStuff 22:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
It is against wikipedia's WP:BLP policy to get into personal details on bios of living persons without a clear encyclopedic reason. Privacy concerns are moral, policy, and in fact Florida law. The general rule of thumb is to only print personal details that mainsteam publishers have printed so we can substitute their profesional opinion for ours and not get into endless agruments over where to draw the line. WAS 4.250 08:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
An extensive list of quotes like this belongs on Wikiquote, not Wikipedia. The quotes should go there, then a link to Wikiquote added to the bottom of this article. The Andrea Dworkin article provides a good example of this.
Posting somebody's entire CV is not really considered appropriate either (though a listing of most notable books and articles definitely should be included). Hosting something like this off of Wikipedia and then linking to it should be OK, though. Peter G Werner 00:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Moving CyntWorkStuff off my user page to this page because it relates to this page and this will be where I will be responding to her unsubstatiated and false accusations against Melissa Farley -- Nikkicraft 02:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
She wrote:.
RESPONSE: CyntWorkStuff wrote that Dr. Farley is a "controversial figure especially in anti-colonialist circles.
This is unsubstantiated false accusation from CyntWorkStuff about a Living People, Dr. Melissa Farley. This is against Wikipedia policies, also it is irresponsible and unethical. I have repeated requested documentations for these accusations and she refuses to furnish them.
Farley was invited by the editor of the Fourth World Journal, to submit her work on prostitution and colonialism. After peer review, Prostitution of Indigenous Women: Sex Inequality and the Colonization of Canada’s First Nations Women was published on the Center for World Indigenous Studies website.
The editor of the Fourth World Journal, Rudolph Ryser, wrote an Introduction to Volume 6, Number 1 and Farley's work: "In this issue we have collected writings from some fine scholars and researchers who elevate to a new level the discussion of self government, traditional medicine and sexual violence in the Fourth World. The Fourth World Journal has been the venue for the discussion of subjects often dismissed or ignored. In the tradition of careful research and thoughtful analysis Dr. Melissa Farley presents here a peer-reviewed article detailing her findings of her research on First World prostitution of Fourth World peoples. This extraordinary piece exposes with precision and accuracy the devastating causes of prostitution and its deeply traumatic effects on First Nations women in present-day Vancouver and indigenous women the world over." -- Nikkicraft 06:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
An unpopular and controversial figure especially in anti-colonialist circles? Hardly. In fact Farley is a faculty member of the Center for World Indigenous Studies and has published one of the first several peer-reviewed articles articulating prostitution as a consequence of colonialization.
"Within the gendered institution of prostitution, race and class create a hierarchy with indigenous women at its lowest point. For many women, the experience of prostitution stems from the historical trauma of colonization. -- Farley, M, Lynne, J, and Cotton, A (2005) Prostitution in Vancouver: Violence and the Colonization of First Nations Women. Transcultural Psychiatry 42: 242-271. -- Nikkicraft 07:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll be fixing the citation for all the quotes on the quotation page tomorrow. I hope what I was able to accomplish this evening was helpful. -- Nikkicraft 08:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
We need to delete "Unknown-importance biography articles" and also perhaps "unassessed". How would that be done?
Peter, thanks for transferring the quotes over. I had not known how to set up a Wikiquotes page, but I have opened up a Wikiquotes account and have now added the sources for all the Melissa Farley's quotations that I collected yesterday. (You made a section for "unsourced" quotations. I removed that because there really shouldn't be unsourced quotations for Living People (seems to me). Now on this, and associated pages, there are not just irresponsible speculations casting aspersions about the reliability of Farley's research, but actual citations and links that document how thorough her research actually is. -- Nikkicraft 20:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Can someone please let me know how I can fix all the "Living_people" links on this discussion page? I went to that particular web page and have unsuccessfully tried various combinations and can't get it to work. thanx! -- Nikkicraft 21:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I've unbolded criticism. Perhaps I don't understand the hierarchy of the current layout, however the bolding of criticism represents to a lay reader a point of view and places too much emphasis on that section for the single link.
Hi, I realized there was a lot of duplication that got added to the page. I probably did it and if so it was not intentional. I removed that and hope I did it correctly. I also tried to clean up the indentations so it would be more readable. I hope that is okay and if it's not I apologize in advance. -- Nikkicraft 20:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Peter, Please explain in this section specifically why you think this page is not neutral and I will do my best to clean up any details but over all as far as I can see it's a pretty good article. Fill me in on why it isn't. Thanks, -- Nikkicraft 01:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Peter, you need to document your inaccurate claim that Farley has not researched off street prostitution. You're wrong. Also you're requesting peer review of research that has already been peer reviewed. Are you actually suggesting that Wiki reviewers supplant the rigorous professional standards of peer review? : ) Farley has been peer reviewed in more than 20 law, psychology and medical journals, including Transcultural Psychiatry, Yale Journal of Law & Feminism, Journal of Trauma Practice, Women and Health, Feminism and Psychology, Women & Criminal Justice, Women & Therapy, Journal of Family Practice, Journal of Substance Abuse Treatment, Psychological Reports, Psychotherapy & Psychosomatics, to name a few. -- Nikkicraft 05:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello everybody! I've been asked by an anonymous user here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Pv7721&diff=prev&oldid=78177641 to explain my edit here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Melissa_Farley&diff=78068280&oldid=72720999 Actually, for me a wiki stub is like a one liner article. And this one is largely more than one screen of information. So it is definitely NOT a wiki stub! Then there is this wikiproject of biographies that has filled all the talk pages with a template indicating the level of the article! As I don't know the project's way of labeling the article I don't have the slightest idea what's a stub for the biographies wikiproject. I think it's up to whoever knows bet to rerate this article. Thanks! -- Vlad| -> 16:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)